KC open to being traded

[gkekoa]

KC is gone. We won't get the value we should for him though.

 

[skinz2winz]

KC is gone. We won't get the value we should for him though.

Are you saying a 3rd round pick is not enough value? Because that is likely what his return will be imo. If we get a 4th plus a conditional pick I would consider that value since we gave up a 4th to draft him. Kirk has done nothing really to improve his value during his starts so we just have to hope another organization values him with rose colored glasses and I believe Cleveland will.

 

[j_y19]

Are you saying a 3rd round pick is not enough value? Because that is likely what his return will be imo. If we get a 4th plus a conditional pick I would consider that value since we gave up a 4th to draft him. Kirk has done nothing really to improve his value during his starts so we just have to hope another organization values him with rose colored glasses and I believe Cleveland will.

HIs value as a capable backup is worth more than a 4th round pick. If that's all we can get, keep him for two more years. He is capable and he is cheap. You bring a vet in here and the price for a capable backup triples.

 

[deanpet21]

I wouldn't do it for a 3rd. A good backup QB is worth more than a 3rd round pick IMO. With RG3 injury history how can you even consider trading him unless it a 1st or high 2nd round pick where you are guaranteed a starter.

 

[Sleepy T]

Backup QBs are a dime a dozen. Cousins honestly doesn't look a whole hell of alot better to me than Grossman in the opportunities that he has been given.

Some of the QBs listed in the "Replacement link" on the other thread would be just as good of an option.

 

[gkekoa]

Are you saying a 3rd round pick is not enough value? Because that is likely what his return will be imo. If we get a 4th plus a conditional pick I would consider that value since we gave up a 4th to draft him. Kirk has done nothing really to improve his value during his starts so we just have to hope another organization values him with rose colored glasses and I believe Cleveland will.

That's exactly what I am saying. A third round pick is not really that valuable. A few hit but most do not. 2nd rounders have a 50% success rate. 3rd is worse.

What we drafted him with is not relevant. His ability is all that matters.

 

[j_y19]

That's exactly what I am saying. A third round pick is not really that valuable. A few hit but most do not. 2nd rounders have a 50% success rate. 3rd is worse.

What we drafted him with is not relevant. His ability is all that matters.

It depends on the position. 3rd round OL hit all the time. 3rd round WRs, not as much.

 

[gkekoa]

3rd round OL miss all the time too.

 

[SteelersPride]

That's exactly what I am saying. A third round pick is not really that valuable. A few hit but most do not. 2nd rounders have a 50% success rate. 3rd is worse.

What we drafted him with is not relevant. His ability is all that matters.

with all due respect he hasnt shown much ability

 

[gkekoa]

In his one season on a winning football team he had one start and threw for 329, 2 TDs, 1 pick.
He also came in during the Baltimore game and finished off the game when RG3 went down in a win.


Now maybe you are referring to him coming in last season and finishing off the season on a 3 win football team. Even there he showed flashes. Some team will take a chance and he was better than Schaub during his time in ATL.

 

[SteelersPride]

im referring to thinking hes some stud and worth more than a 3rd or 4th round pick, with a few years experience and 3 games to literally "showcase" him, the skins did nothing......he did nothing...........those gameplans were to make him look good and get a pick for him, he failed

 

[gkekoa]

im referring to thinking hes some stud and worth more than a 3rd or 4th round pick, with a few years experience and 3 games to literally "showcase" him, the skins did nothing......he did nothing...........those gameplans were to make him look good and get a pick for him, he failed

He has two years experience and has played reasonably well in all.

For a possible starting QB, you don't give up a 3rd or 4th...you get at least a second.

You don't trade your backup QB for a 3rd or 4th.

 

[SteelersPride]

thats my point, hes not a starter.............

 

[SteelersPride]

its all hype built by the skins

Then they took 3 games this year specifically designed to showcase him, gameplans designed to show him off. Gameplans designed to boost his stock and get a high pick for him...............and flop

 

[gkekoa]

A 3 win team isn't showcasing a backup QB...they are a three win team.


He played well enough to risk a second round pick in the right system...and low and behold...the right system is in CLE where he will have a top two WR and a top five TE...not mention a better OL.

 

[skinsdad62]

A 3 win team isn't showcasing a backup QB...they are a three win team.


He played well enough to risk a second round pick in the right system...and low and behold...the right system is in CLE where he will have a top two WR and a top five TE...not mention a better OL.

GK if you think KC's play warranted a 2nd round pick then i want what your smoking
he lost all 3 games , threw more picks him then TDs and his supposed advancement in the offense enabled him to complete like 52% of his passes

in 203 career pass atts he has 10 picks or one every 20 throws plus the 4 fumbles

I like KC , but the fact is he still does the same stuff he did at MSU

 

[gkekoa]

Again...look at Matt Schaub in ATL.

 

[skinsdad62]

Again...look at Matt Schaub in ATL.

schaub was ancient history

 

[SoCalWizFan]

schaub was ancient history

I am pretty sure that if you advertise Cousins as the "next Matt Schaub" there will be little to no interest!

 

[gkekoa]

I am pretty sure that if you advertise Cousins as the "next Matt Schaub" there will be little to no interest!

2 time pro-bowler and he led the league in passing yards in 2009. You don't give up a second rounder for him that?