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Just read 3 different NL Cy Young predictions

rmilia1

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1 for Greinke. 1 for Kershaw. 1 for Arrieta. Lol. Thanks for clearing that up interweb.
 

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I'd still go with Greinke.

#1 in WAR, #1 in ERA, #1 in WHIP, #1 in ERA+

Both Greinke and Arrieta had historically great years(top 10 seasons in the last 100 years in ERA+)

Greinke's was slightly more great though. Top 10 in WHIP in the last 100 years, top 15 in ERA the last 100 years. There's really nothing to suggest Arrieta had a better season than Greinke IMO. But I wouldn't fault the voters if they got caught up in Arrieta's historical close to the season.
 

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I'd still go with Greinke.

#1 in WAR, #1 in ERA, #1 in WHIP, #1 in ERA+

Both Greinke and Arrieta had historically great years(top 10 seasons in the last 100 years in ERA+)

Greinke's was slightly more great though. Top 10 in WHIP in the last 100 years, top 15 in ERA the last 100 years. There's really nothing to suggest Arrieta had a better season than Greinke IMO. But I wouldn't fault the voters if they got caught up in Arrieta's historical close to the season.
Yep I go Greinke too. It was just funny the first 3 I read all picked a different guy lol
 

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Either way it's for sure going to be the greatest runner up finisher ever
 

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No they won't. Ballots are due before the playoffs begin.

At least it'll be sweet to beat the Dodgers and go on to the WS w/ the Pirates then. All 3 NL Cy pitchers going down at the hands of the hardest working blue collar team in the NL I mean.

No Good Luckie to any of them.
 

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At least it'll be sweet to beat the Dodgers and go on to the WS w/ the Pirates then. All 3 NL Cy pitchers going down at the hands of the hardest working blue collar team in the NL I mean.

No Good Luckie to any of them.
:suds: No good luckie to you either!
 

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I'd still go with Greinke.

#1 in WAR, #1 in ERA, #1 in WHIP, #1 in ERA+

Both Greinke and Arrieta had historically great years(top 10 seasons in the last 100 years in ERA+)

Greinke's was slightly more great though. Top 10 in WHIP in the last 100 years, top 15 in ERA the last 100 years. There's really nothing to suggest Arrieta had a better season than Greinke IMO. But I wouldn't fault the voters if they got caught up in Arrieta's historical close to the season.

John smoltz criteria had Arrieta way ahead
 

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Arrieta has had an era lower than any in the history of baseball in the second half.

If they are not crunching numbers, they will vote Arrieta.
 

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Arrieta has had an era lower than any in the history of baseball in the second half.

If they are not crunching numbers, they will vote Arrieta.
Isn't the first half part of 2015 as well? Or is the CY just a partial-season award?
 

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Arrieta has had an era lower than any in the history of baseball in the second half.


And he still couldn't beat Greinke in ERA for the season...that's how great Greinke's season was.
 

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Seaver in '71?
Honestly that's one of the only other seasons,that came to mind but I don't think even that year was as good as either of these guys
 

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Honestly that's one of the only other seasons,that came to mind but I don't think even that year was as good as either of these guys

In another thread I talked about the quick and dirty method of comparing players with disparate playing time using the difference between them.

The difference between Seaver and Greinke is 63.2 innings of 2.12 ERA.

The difference between Seaver and Arrieta is 57.2 innings of 1.71 ERA.

Both of those differences not only have value, but actually have quite a bit of value. Seaver played under lower scoring conditions so it's not a perfectly direct comparison , but it's not severe enough to push aside 60 extra innings.
 

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And he still couldn't beat Greinke in ERA for the season...that's how great Greinke's season was.
yeah, just saying, the big memory was a historical second half, that will sway some voters. The other thing is Grienke and Kershaw splitting their votes.

Best statistical with 300K is Kershaw. If its not Jake, I hope Kershaw wins over Grienke.
 
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