Just like that....the Brett Rypien era is over

[BoiseStateFan27]

I would say today's bowl game (or lack thereof) kind of defined the Rypien era

Unfulfilling, empty...etc

Just feels like we didn't achieve what we should have with him

 

[Bronco754]

I have a friend of mine who has been very ANTI-Rypien ever since he was a Freshman and I understand why he is of that opinion. BUT...........the fact is Rypien will probably be the 2nd best Quarterback that Boise State has ever had. # 1 obviously being Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore had pocket awareness that was so much better than any other QB for Boise State that I've ever seen (and I go back to the days of Jim McMillan) that Rypien - by comparison - looked pretty shabby in that regard.

 

[Nod4Eight]

Any quarterback will pale when held in comparison to Moore. Unfortunately for Rypien, he was somewhat marketed to be compared to Moore. Having come from Washington and broken many of Kellen's records... now, how much of that's on him or the media is another story.

 

[Boise4Life]

I have a friend of mine who has been very ANTI-Rypien ever since he was a Freshman and I understand why he is of that opinion. BUT...........the fact is Rypien will probably be the 2nd best Quarterback that Boise State has ever had. # 1 obviously being Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore had pocket awareness that was so much better than any other QB for Boise State that I've ever seen (and I go back to the days of Jim McMillan) that Rypien - by comparison - looked pretty shabby in that regard.

No way he was better than Dinwiddie. Not even a little bit close.

 

[Bronco754]

Statistics of both of them make your position untenable. Especially considering Rypien was playing against much better competition. Dinwiddie played in the Big West and the WAC and played a lot fewer teams from the so-called "Power" schools.

Rypien's career completion percentage was 64.0 %
Dinwiddie's career completion percentage was 62.7 %

Rypien passed for 13,581 in 4 years
Dinwiddie passed for 9,819 yards in 4 years

Rypien had 29 career interceptions on 1,619 attempts (1.79 %)
Dinwiddie had 21 career interceptions on 992 attempts (2.12 %)

Rypien had 90 career TD's
Dinwiddie had 82 career TD's

But Dinwiddie did get arrested more than Rypien did.

 

[Boise4Life]

Statistics of both of them make your position untenable. Especially considering Rypien was playing against much better competition. Dinwiddie played in the Big West and the WAC and played a lot fewer teams from the so-called "Power" schools.

Rypien's career completion percentage was 64.0 %
Dinwiddie's career completion percentage was 62.7 %

Rypien passed for 13,581 in 4 years
Dinwiddie passed for 9,819 yards in 4 years

Rypien had 29 career interceptions on 1,619 attempts (1.79 %)
Dinwiddie had 21 career interceptions on 992 attempts (2.12 %)

Rypien had 90 career TD's
Dinwiddie had 82 career TD's

But Dinwiddie did get arrested more than Rypien did.

Agree to disagree.

Dinwiddie played way less games than Brett because he had to sit behind Bart Hendricks for a season who was a stud in his own right and also missed some games when he broke his ankle his junior year, a season in which he smashed the NCAA single season efficiency record by posting 188.2 in his nine games.

Dinwiddie didn't play in the Big West. He started for the equivalent of two and a half seasons in the WAC after we had already moved over. And truthfully I don't think the MWC is that much tougher than what the WAC was. Our supposed "step up" conference hasn't been the problem. The problem is the teams we've fielded lately aren't nearly as good. In a smaller sample size of games than Brett, Dinwiddie played three teams who finished ranked - at #13 South Carolina, #10 Washington State, and at #24 TCU. You know how many end of year ranked teams Boise played in Brett's first third years? ZERO as in not a single one. The schedule hasn't been difficult at all. In fact it's been absolutely pathetic these past four years, especially in the non-conference. Brett's played ONE team in his entire life in his 49 career games that either finished their season ranked or is currently ranked and that's 2018 Fresno State at home. By comparison Kellen played nine of them going 6-3 against those teams and 44-0 against everyone else.

In his three seasons at the helm Dinwiddie's teams finished not ranked, #12, and #15. In Brett's four years in charge we've finished not ranked, not ranked, #22, and currently sit at #23. Keep in mind that Brett took over with Boise coming off of a Fiesta Bowl championship in 2014.

Dinwiddie's career passer rating - 168.9 (which was the all-time NCAA record). Brett's career passer rating 149.3, nearly 20 full points lower. By comparison Kellen's was 169.0.

Dinwiddie's career yards per attempt, 9.9. Brett's - 8.4.

Dinwiddie's TD to INT ratio - 3.9. Brett's - 3.1.

In my eyes Dinwiddie was better. Way better. He threw one of the prettiest deep balls I've ever seen and he was deadly accurate. In fact he was so damn good he shattered the all-time career college football record for passing efficiency which stood for four years after he left Boise State.

 

[Bronco754]

Agree to disagree

And factually speaking your first salvo here is 100 % wrong. Dinwiddie's 1st year was played in the Big West (2000) See the link here - Ryan Dinwiddie College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

If you don't KNOW that the Mtn West today is much tougher than the old WAC was (and the Big West) - well I'm speechless about that. I literally could not disagree more on that - but your opinion is your opinion - no matter how ridiculous it seems to me (or others). My guess is you were at Boise State when Dinwiddie was playing there so he's just going to be your guy. I used to be of the same opinion about Jim McMillan.

 

[DHoey]

It was interesting to watch Rypien from afar. Shadle is about 10 minutes from where I work and I got to see him a lot in high school. I wasn't sure how much was hype from his name or how much was legit. I still don't know why he didn't go to WSU but, anyways. To consider him underwhelming is a little unfair. The guys was a damn good QB and you guys were lucky to have him.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

It was interesting to watch Rypien from afar. Shadle is about 10 minutes from where I work and I got to see him a lot in high school. I wasn't sure how much was hype from his name or how much was legit. I still don't know why he didn't go to WSU but, anyways. To consider him underwhelming is a little unfair. The guys was a damn good QB and you guys were lucky to have him.

I will definitely miss him, in my opinion Rypien didn't fail us, we failed Rypien.

We didn't do a good job developing him in his early years, and then we wasted a lot of his career with the issues we've had around him....including having several games we were poorly prepared for.

 

[Boise4Life]

Agree to disagree

And factually speaking your first salvo here is 100 % wrong. Dinwiddie's 1st year was played in the Big West (2000) See the link here - Ryan Dinwiddie College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

If you don't KNOW that the Mtn West today is much tougher than the old WAC was (and the Big West) - well I'm speechless about that. I literally could not disagree more on that - but your opinion is your opinion - no matter how ridiculous it seems to me (or others). My guess is you were at Boise State when Dinwiddie was playing there so he's just going to be your guy. I used to be of the same opinion about Jim McMillan.

I'm an Arizona State alum. I was born and raised in Boise and I love my Broncos, but no way in hell I was staying home and having my college experience at BSU.

And in 2000 when he was a freshman Dinwiddie sat on the bench while Hendricks lit the Big West up. He didn't even throw 20 passes in garbage time that year. Dinwiddie played in the WAC as the starter his sophomore year in 2001 until 2003.

You forget that in the WAC days Fresno, Nevada, and especially Hawaii fielded some pretty good teams.

Teams that finished ranked in the 10 years that Boise played in the WAC:

#22 Fresno in 2004
#24 Hawaii in 2006
#17 Hawaii in 2007
#11 Nevada in 2010

Teams that are in the MWC that finished ranked (or currently are ranked) in the 8 years that Boise's been there:

#25 San Diego State in 2016
#21 Fresno State in 2018

So two teams that play in the MWC that currently are ranked or finished ranked other than Boise in eight seasons. Zero even in the top 20 in eight years, not one. That is the definition of pathetic. The MWC is maybe a tiny bit deeper than the WAC was and I would say it is the second best Group of 5 because well let's face it, Group of 5 conferences suck. So Boise essentially transitioned from one shitty conference to another shitty conference, basically a wash (especially after TCU, Utah, and BYU all bailed).

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

Watching Rypien play it was clear he could sling it, his arm was incredible and he could make any throw. It was the mental part of the game that messed him up at times and I feel like our coaching staff during his time here didn't help him.

 

[Bronco754]

I'm an Arizona State alum. I was born and raised in Boise and I love my Broncos, but no way in hell I was staying home and having my college experience at BSU.

And in 2000 when he was a freshman Dinwiddie sat on the bench while Hendricks lit the Big West up. He didn't even throw 20 passes in garbage time that year. Dinwiddie played in the WAC as the starter his sophomore year in 2001 until 2003.

You forget that in the WAC days Fresno, Nevada, and especially Hawaii fielded some pretty good teams.

Teams that finished ranked in the 10 years that Boise played in the WAC:

#22 Fresno in 2004
#24 Hawaii in 2006
#17 Hawaii in 2007
#11 Nevada in 2010

Teams that are in the MWC that finished ranked (or currently are ranked) in the 8 years that Boise's been there:

#25 San Diego State in 2016
#21 Fresno State in 2018

So two teams that play in the MWC that currently are ranked or finished ranked other than Boise in eight seasons. Zero even in the top 20 in eight years, not one. That is the definition of pathetic. The MWC is maybe a tiny bit deeper than the WAC was and I would say it is the second best Group of 5 because well let's face it, Group of 5 conferences suck. So Boise essentially transitioned from one shitty conference to another shitty conference, basically a wash (especially after TCU, Utah, and BYU all bailed).

I'm an Arizona State alum. I was born and raised in Boise and I love my Broncos, but no way in hell I was staying home and having my college experience at BSU.

And in 2000 when he was a freshman Dinwiddie sat on the bench while Hendricks lit the Big West up. He didn't even throw 20 passes in garbage time that year. Dinwiddie played in the WAC as the starter his sophomore year in 2001 until 2003.

You forget that in the WAC days Fresno, Nevada, and especially Hawaii fielded some pretty good teams.

Teams that finished ranked in the 10 years that Boise played in the WAC:

#22 Fresno in 2004
#24 Hawaii in 2006
#17 Hawaii in 2007
#11 Nevada in 2010

Teams that are in the MWC that finished ranked (or currently are ranked) in the 8 years that Boise's been there:

#25 San Diego State in 2016
#21 Fresno State in 2018

So two teams that play in the MWC that currently are ranked or finished ranked other than Boise in eight seasons. Zero even in the top 20 in eight years, not one. That is the definition of pathetic. The MWC is maybe a tiny bit deeper than the WAC was and I would say it is the second best Group of 5 because well let's face it, Group of 5 conferences suck. So Boise essentially transitioned from one shitty conference to another shitty conference, basically a wash (especially after TCU, Utah, and BYU all bailed).

As I said in my last response here - you're entitled to your opinion but we will have to agree to disagree. You keep trying to defend Dinwiddie by suggesting he only played 2 1/2 seasons at Boise State. That's just plain absurd. He played in 42 games at Boise State. Rypien played in 50. That's a difference of only 8 games total. That's less than two-thirds of one season between the two (assuming 13 games per) - yet Rypien had 13,500 passing yards in his career whereas Dinwiddie had 9,800 yards.

And your belief that the WAC - which was PATHETIC - is somehow comparable to the Mtn. West of today is equally absurd. BUT AGAIN - and for the last time - YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION. I personally am done with this conversation - as it's like beating the proverbial dead horse - but feel free to go on without me.

 

[Bronco754]

Watching Rypien play it was clear he could sling it, his arm was incredible and he could make any throw. It was the mental part of the game that messed him up at times and I feel like our coaching staff during his time here didn't help him.

I agree with your take here. Mentally he was poor AT TIMES but then what quarterback isn't AT TIMES.

As to the coaching staff - don't get me started on that - I'll be here all day on that issue. But given the fact that Boise State doesn't have the $$$$$ to pay what the "Power" schools pay their coaches (thanks to the rigged system that is NCAA football) Harsin and company is about the best Boise State is likely to have.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

I agree with your take here. Mentally he was poor AT TIMES but then what quarterback isn't AT TIMES.

As to the coaching staff - don't get me started on that - I'll be here all day on that issue. But given the fact that Boise State doesn't have the $$$$$ to pay what the "Power" schools pay their coaches (thanks to the rigged system that is NCAA football) Harsin and company is about the best Boise State is likely to have.

We always have to stick with Boise alums as they're more loyal to the program. Harsin occasionally seems to be a good coach, but there's just so many lapses in his gameplanning that it's frustrating at times. Plus there's always a unit of the team that lags behind the other, most commonly special teams.

 

[Boise4Life]

We always have to stick with Boise alums as they're more loyal to the program. Harsin occasionally seems to be a good coach, but there's just so many lapses in his gameplanning that it's frustrating at times. Plus there's always a unit of the team that lags behind the other, most commonly special teams.

Kent Riddle needs to be fired.............immediately, but the way Harsin has been talking lately I'm not so sure he will be.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

Kent Riddle needs to be fired.............immediately, but the way Harsin has been talking lately I'm not so sure he will be.

Very frustrating, he's screwed us so many times with his horrible blocking schemes.

I guess we can look forward to more blocked kicks in 2019.

 

[BSUSeahawk]

I will definitely miss him, in my opinion Rypien didn't fail us, we failed Rypien.

We didn't do a good job developing him in his early years, and then we wasted a lot of his career with the issues we've had around him....including having several games we were poorly prepared for.

Agree with this 100%. Rypien was awesome, and IMO, indisputably the 2nd best QB to ever put on the orange and blue.

He had some shortcomings - Utah State Freshman year, Wyoming Sophomore year, SDSU this year - but overall, he was incredible.

The last two years, BSU did not do a good enough job of protecting him. I get why they rolled with Cozart, beyond Rypien's injuries, but I thought that was a shortsighted decision and didn't help Brett any. That entire Junior year was a lost year.