JPP wants another chance

[skinz2winz]

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1 yr vet minimum deal?

 

[Skin'EmAll]

Thats a tough one, he's clearly going to give everything he's got BUT what does that look like statistically

 

[chillerdab]

36 years old.
Out of football for a year.
Not a solid contributer the year before either.

Camp invite, no guarantees? Sure.
Vet minimum with no guarantees is the absolute most I would offer.

 

[skinsdad62]

36 years old.
Out of football for a year.
Not a solid contributer the year before either.

Camp invite, no guarantees? Sure.
Vet minimum with no guarantees is the absolute most I would offer.

genius

 

[skinz2winz]

At the very least, get him in here and see what he has left.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

No fireworks please

 

[Samurai Night Fever]

We are trying to get younger, pass…

 

[skinz2winz]

We are trying to get younger, pass…

You passed on the opportunity to get younger in the draft at that position. What we currently have will not produce results needed. A 1 yr deal for an older edge rusher will be brought in, its just a matter of who. Next year for sure they draft edge early on in the draft resulting in getting younger at that position.

 

[Samurai Night Fever]

You passed on the opportunity to get younger in the draft at that position. What we currently have will not produce results needed. A 1 yr deal for an older edge rusher will be brought in, its just a matter of who. Next year for sure they draft edge early on in the draft resulting in getting younger at that position.

Then consider someone like Z. Smith, DeMarcus Walker, etc. I'd even take Von Miller over JPP. Desperate move. We also shored up our CBs in the draft that you just mentioned, and got a very fast LB to pair with Luvu who could be used for blitzes. I think KC did fine without Jared Allen and managed to get a Superbowl. Hell, we got to the NFC Championship game with what we had last year, didn't we? Agree about next years draft plans, that should be a priority. I'd also like to upgrade at TE.

 

[skinz2winz]

We are trying to get younger, pass…

We are trying to get to a super bowl. However that looks like, young, old in between...

 

[Samurai Night Fever]

We are trying to get to a super bowl. However that looks like, young, old in between...

Agreed, but I don't think we are there yet. One or two more seasons (hopefully one!)

 

[skinz2winz]

Agreed, but I don't think we are there yet. One or two more seasons (hopefully one!)

I respectfully disagree. JD5 makes it possible as you saw last year. We were a decent pash rush, above avg run stopping defense away from a SB last year. I would personally trade for Henderickson and IF not available, stay put until the opportunity to fill that position presents itself which, may very well be in next years draft. Let's see how this plays out.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I've got no problem signing old vets to 1 year deals. I'm not convinced JPP has anything left but any of the names being bounced around on a 1 year deal would work for me.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I have no clue why anyone would want to bring in JPP even on a 1 year deal at this point. He's not a bad locker room guy so that's nice, but what's the point? He's 36.5, has been out of football a year... what is that going to accomplish?

I don't expect the Commandoskins D to be that good in 2025 so at this point just start some younger guys or maybe Ferrell decides to do something and call it a day.

Maybe I'm not fully aware how bad your guys' depth is... but if Seattle signed JPP to a 1 year vet min contract I'd be annoyed.

If you guys want a temporary pass rusher, Clowney is a FAR better option and IMO would work okay in Quinn's system.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

I have no clue why anyone would want to bring in JPP even on a 1 year deal at this point. He's not a bad locker room guy so that's nice, but what's the point? He's 36.5, has been out of football a year... what is that going to accomplish?

I don't expect the Commandoskins D to be that good in 2025 so at this point just start some younger guys or maybe Ferrell decides to do something and call it a day.

Maybe I'm not fully aware how bad your guys' depth is... but if Seattle signed JPP to a 1 year vet min contract I'd be annoyed.

If you guys want a temporary pass rusher, Clowney is a FAR better option and IMO would work okay in Quinn's system.

i think i agree with you on this one. Its concerning Clowney is off the team before the season starts, but maybe hes not interested in being a back up

 

[skinsdad62]

i think we should see what JJB does in TC and in the preseason . i think this guy could jump up a bit to being at least a steady player

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I have no clue why anyone would want to bring in JPP even on a 1 year deal at this point. He's not a bad locker room guy so that's nice, but what's the point? He's 36.5, has been out of football a year... what is that going to accomplish?

I don't expect the Commandoskins D to be that good in 2025 so at this point just start some younger guys or maybe Ferrell decides to do something and call it a day.

Maybe I'm not fully aware how bad your guys' depth is... but if Seattle signed JPP to a 1 year vet min contract I'd be annoyed.

If you guys want a temporary pass rusher, Clowney is a FAR better option and IMO would work okay in Quinn's system.

JPP has been a far better player than Clowney who was really only productive in his 1 year in Baltimore. I think that's why he is being discussed. If it's a reasonable 1 year deal with little signing bonus it's not a bad gamble to see what he's got in camp and simply release him if he is washed.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

JPP has been a far better player than Clowney who was really only productive in his 1 year in Baltimore. I think that's why he is being discussed. If it's a reasonable 1 year deal with little signing bonus it's not a bad gamble to see what he's got in camp and simply release him if he is washed.

Well JPP hasn't done anything in 3 years. Clowney was still OKAY for the Panthers last year and Ravens in 2023. He didn't get a lot of sacks for Seattle but he was very highly rated with PFF and was constantly disrupting the OL and getting in the backfield.. Seattle really just had nobody else that could pass rush consistently. But he drew a lot of holding penalties if I recall correctly (and there was blatant holding he wasn't called on in away games).

Clowney from what I recall is also a better run defender than JPP, which the Commandoskins need as you had a bottom 5 run defense last year... and he's 5 years younger. JPP is 36... he's not going to do anything relevant at all, while Clowney will give you something.

I mean whatever, but if I was a Skins fan (I do like the Team in general despite being in the NFC so a conference rival) I'd take Clowney any day over JPP.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Well JPP hasn't done anything in 3 years. Clowney was still OKAY for the Panthers last year and Ravens in 2023. He didn't get a lot of sacks for Seattle but he was very highly rated with PFF and was constantly disrupting the OL and getting in the backfield.. Seattle really just had nobody else that could pass rush consistently. But he drew a lot of holding penalties if I recall correctly (and there was blatant holding he wasn't called on in away games).

Clowney from what I recall is also a better run defender than JPP, which the Commandoskins need as you had a bottom 5 run defense last year... and he's 5 years younger. JPP is 36... he's not going to do anything relevant at all, while Clowney will give you something.

I mean whatever, but if I was a Skins fan (I do like the Team in general despite being in the NFC so a conference rival) I'd take Clowney any day over JPP.

Yeah that's fair, I had read that Clowney was a disrupter on plays that didn't register on the stats sheet. Still he is clearly a bust as a #1 #1 and perhaps that is clouding my judgement.

 

[skinsdad62]

Yeah that's fair, I had read that Clowney was a disrupter on plays that didn't register on the stats sheet. Still he is clearly a bust as a #1 #1 and perhaps that is clouding my judgement.

Fortunately we didn’t draft him there so we don’t have to carry that baggage