Joe paterno near death....

[Bracus]

He knew. That's why they quietly got rid of him in 1999. Yet this bullshit went on for 10 more years at least. Paterno is the most powerful man at that university and he did not want his reputation tarnished so he let that stuff go on.

Exactly. Stop picturing the guy as JoePa. Imagine if that were one of your kids or family members. Then tell me the guy isn't a scumbag. If you can honestly say that, then I guess were just on two completely different wavelengths.

 

[I_am_1z]

how was it his fault he never saw what was going on? it was the qb coach?? he is the one who should of went to the police....lets say your cousin see a crime and tells you about it? you can't report it cause it's consider hear say...What the guy did was wrong but it had nothing to do with paterno its the media trying to make him out to be the bad guy.

McQuary did talk to the police about Sandusky and what was going on, but he didn't report it.

Paterno followed protocol.

The AD and Vice President didn't take the situation as anything serious.

The whole case doesn't make sense.

Good to hear Joe's still going!!

 

[taughtmepatience]

His life was Penn St. football. As soon as it was taken from him, he lost the will to live.

 

[Kinzu]

Joe Paterno followed state protocol as a school employee to report the allegations to a school official. Even if a player came to him and said he was being abused by his father Joe suppose to report it to a school official not show up on the dads lawn or call the police. They don't have these rules to protect criminals though. They are to protect school employees from being involved in legal issues.

After McQuery testified he never described it to Joe as a r*pe it was a moot point anyway. McQuery had the information and should have been pushing it, but he did not and I am sure he wishes he would have now.

 

[JPurthe1]

Parents knew about this and let it go. What should JoePa do if the parents did not care?

 

[EaseUrStorm]

The ones he reported it to are "superiors" in name only not reality. Don't feel sorry for him at all.

 

[Hangman]

JoPa deserves to die in agony. I hope he realizes that he will always be looked upon as someone who helped a friend ****** kids.

 

[maniax]

I don't feel sorry for the guy at all.

I hope the reporters are beating on his hospital door asking his family about the molestations and Sandusky. I wouldn't give the guy or his family any break or privacy.

 

[MHSL82]

how was it his fault he never saw what was going on? it was the qb coach?? he is the one who should of went to the police....lets say your cousin see a crime and tells you about it? you can't report it cause it's consider hear say...What the guy did was wrong but it had nothing to do with paterno its the media trying to make him out to be the bad guy.

It's not hearsay in the way that you are saying that it is hearsay. You can report anything that you know is true to the police - that your cousin told you that he saw a crime being committed. You, of course, can't say that you saw the crime. And at trial, you can't say that the crime was committed - BUT if what he told you fell under an exception for hearsay, you could absolutely testify about what was told, not what happened. If it meets one of the exceptions, you can say that you were told that he did it. If it is objected at trial and the judge withholds it, hopefully by then the prosecutor has subpoenaed your cousin. If you don't report it to anybody, the cousin will never be subpoenaed. So you may be right that it is not admissible at trial, but it's not that nothing can be done because of it. Furthermore, an experienced lawyer may be able to pursuade the judge that it is admissible. At the least it would be doing all you could and the media wouldn't be going after you.

Saying that you can't do anything because it's hearsay is just wrong. Saying that you shouldn't do anything because you believe it won't bring about the desired results - stopping further crime or catching the criminal - is just wrong. Saying that you won't succeed is not a reason to not try to report it. I think the best defense for Paterno is that he did report it, but to the wrong people. I still think that's BS. But to say, I didn't report it because I don't understand the rules of hearsay? Or because I didn't see it?

This is not an attack on you, but rather Paterno and the QB coach.

 

[MHSL82]

McQuary did talk to the police about Sandusky and what was going on, but he didn't report it.

Paterno followed protocol.

The AD and Vice President didn't take the situation as anything serious.

The whole case doesn't make sense.

Good to hear Joe's still going!!

Joe Paterno followed state protocol as a school employee to report the allegations to a school official. Even if a player came to him and said he was being abused by his father Joe suppose to report it to a school official not show up on the dads lawn or call the police. They don't have these rules to protect criminals though. They are to protect school employees from being involved in legal issues.

After McQuery testified he never described it to Joe as a r*pe it was a moot point anyway. McQuery had the information and should have been pushing it, but he did not and I am sure he wishes he would have now.

This is not why people are objecting. No one is saying, "he didn't follow protocal!". You're not going to convince anyone that because Joe Paterno did what a private party (university) told him to do that it was ok. If Penn State were suing him, then absolutely he has a defense. If he sues to get his job back he might have a case. From a moral standpoint, all of this protocal BS does not have an effect on anything. Legally perhaps one could argue that Penn State is more responsible, but that does not make Paterno innocent. We should then strike against the protocal, but this has nothing to do with guilt in this case. We should hold the university liable so that maybe they will develop a better protocal. If nothing else, maybe he should have said 'fuck protocal".

In the end, if I am your superior and you do what I tell you to do, it doesn't absolve you from guilt from the government, from the media, or the general public. You certainly would argue that I am guilty, too. Maybe even moreso. But there comes a point where you go past your superiors and if not, you're good in the eyes of the superiors but not to the world. And no, he would not get in trouble for slander as he is only reporting that somene told him something. Only the QB coach could get in trouble for that and as I explained in another post, the QB coach has a pretty good case against that charge.

I don't understand where this defense of JoePa is coming from unless we were strictly talking about a case of Penn State v. Paterno. I agree that Sandusky > QB coach/Parents > Joe Paterno/University/Parents is where the guilt lies, but no one is innocent here. Sadly, the people that have the power to do something was everywhere and no one did. The people with the most power determined that r*pe was moot. If the definition of moot was that the crime was irreversable or in the past, murder would be moot. If it happened once, it's not moot. People were protecting themselves and strangely people are not protecting them. Let them defend themselves, why do it, too?

 

[numone9er]

Don't wish death upon anybody. Get well soon Paterno!

 

[BigBlueNation111]

Don't wish death upon anybody. Get well soon Paterno!

Amen bud!!

 

[tomikcon1971]

College News Editor Resigns Over False Paterno Death Report | Fox News

 

[tomikcon1971]

I assume they got it right this time.....RIP.

The Associated Press @AP 2m ago
BREAKING: Family says Joe Paterno, winningest coach in major college football, has died -ldh

 

[SRPnVA]

RIP JoePa


Anyone with an ounce of sense knows JoePa was a good person. There was way too much blame put on his shoulders. If he was the one who witnessed the incident then yeah I would be mad. But his involvement is so indirect that he was shuffled into the fucked up situation. You wanna blame someone, blame McQueary, the one who actually witnessed it and didn't take the correct actions AKA go to the police you fucking ginger idiot.

 

[Mozart'sGhost]

I hope all the families and the kids that Paterno allowed to be molested can rest easily as well.

 

[Cali Steel]

His life was Penn St. football. As soon as it was taken from him, he lost the will to live.

I believe that's exactly what it was.
46 yrs as head coach, that was his life

 

[maniax]

Apparently his "legacy outweighs the scandal".

Sure I'm buying into it... a whole bunch of football seasons and games and a few titles is more important than dozens of molested kids.

 

[clyde_carbon]

RIP Joe Pa.

That's all what really needs to be said in this thread.

 

[crash]

R.i.P Joe Pa...