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Haden has broken his fibula, and will be out indefinitely. There is a very strong chance given the injury that Haden will not play again this season, and the Steelers will need to adjust their cornerback rotation accordingly
 

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Haden has broken his fibula, and will be out indefinitely. There is a very strong chance given the injury that Haden will not play again this season, and the Steelers will need to adjust their cornerback rotation accordingly


It is bad...from the looks of it, you could tell he was in a lot of pain...indefinitely might be up to Joe...some reports are saying this is a 4 to 6 week heal w/o surgery.

Sensabaugh is the next man up outside...I thought he showed well when they went after him....he's not Joe Haden, but I think the DEF will hold up okay....my guess is he's ready for the playoff...maybe week 16 or 17 even.
 
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Hopefully he can be back for the playoffs and be back at full speed at that. We will need him. Especially since it seems more and more likely we will be going as far as the defense will take us with Ben's continued struggles. Guy still doesn't look right. Maybe our worst fears are realized and Ben "has" actually lost it.

Ugh.
 

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Hopefully he can be back for the playoffs and be back at full speed at that. We will need him. Especially since it seems more and more likely we will be going as far as the defense will take us with Ben's continued struggles. Guy still doesn't look right. Maybe our worst fears are realized and Ben "has" actually lost it.

Ugh.

Haden...agreed...the more info that comes out, the less it seems like a season loss. Hopefully it pans out that way...interesting to see if Burns will now play more up on the WRs or will both CBs play 10+ yds off. I wanted to see what Sutton could bring...I think there's a good shot he will come off IR.

OFC...some of it is Ben, maybe not as frequent, but he can still make the throws, but obviously not as mobile. but more of it is Haley. Were there ANY plays they ran yesterday that we haven't seen before? Now I would need to watch the DVR again to be certain, but off hand I would say no. The only thing I saw creative...they ran a different play out of the same formation they showed previously and I think it caught IND off guard...the TD to McD. Previously they ran Bell from that same formation in a similar spot on the field. The Steelers OFC has to be one of the easier ones to prep for.

I don't recall any no huddle....I was thinking...okay, you had a week to self scout, add wrinkles, etc...maybe you didn't want to show that to NE or BAL this week. I hold out hope there is more, but reality tells me this is what they are.
 
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Haden...agreed...the more info that comes out, the less it seems like a season loss. Hopefully it pans out that way...interesting to see if Burns will now play more up on the WRs or will both CBs play 10+ yds off. I wanted to see what Sutton could bring...I think there's a good shot he will come off IR.

OFC...some of it is Ben, maybe not as frequent, but he can still make the throws, but obviously not as mobile. but more of it is Haley. Were there ANY plays they ran yesterday that we haven't seen before? Now I would need to watch the DVR again to be certain, but off hand I would say no. The only thing I saw creative...they ran a different play out of the same formation they showed previously and I think it caught IND off guard...the TD to McD. Previously they ran Bell from that same formation in a similar spot on the field. The Steelers OFC has to be one of the easier ones to prep for.

I don't recall any no huddle....I was thinking...okay, you had a week to self scout, add wrinkles, etc...maybe you didn't want to show that to NE or BAL this week. I hold out hope there is more, but reality tells me this is what they are.
You think Sutton can contribute this year, meaningfully? He's a rookie that has virtually no practice time. I think they'll bring him off of IR and add him to the roster but I'm not so sure he'll see the field. Or rather, I don't think the plan would be to show him the field. A lot can still happen, knock on wood.

I'm really starting to fall into the anti-Haley camp. I never was before but it's becoming more and more of an issue. I would REALLY like to know why we can't run the no-huddle since that seems to be where Ben is at his best. Jackasses! All of em!
 
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Serious Week 10 Notes on Limas:

Kid has game and is adjusting to the NFL way faster than I thought possible. I'm still not seeing the separation but it's not the issue I thought it would be.
 

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I saw that it was more of a crack, and Haden could be back by the NE game if things bounce right.

Tests show CB Joe Haden has a non-displaced fracture of the fibula head that won't require surgery, according to a source. Haden bracing for a recovery of 5-6 weeks but hopes for sooner. 'Could have been much worse,' source said.

The next run of games is pretty easy, and will largely be at home. So we won't have to worry as much about laying road eggs.

Titans AT Steelers, Packers AT Steelers. Steelers AT Steelers (Cincy squatting), Ravens AT Steelers.

Then Patriots at Steelers.

Even if Haden misses the NE game, maybe that's a good thing. Give them a lowered opinion of our defenses abilities.
 

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You think Sutton can contribute this year, meaningfully? He's a rookie that has virtually no practice time. I think they'll bring him off of IR and add him to the roster but I'm not so sure he'll see the field. Or rather, I don't think the plan would be to show him the field. A lot can still happen, knock on wood.

I'm really starting to fall into the anti-Haley camp. I never was before but it's becoming more and more of an issue. I would REALLY like to know why we can't run the no-huddle since that seems to be where Ben is at his best. Jackasses! All of em!

Sutton...no, not on DEF unless pressed into action. The word I saw was they would probably give him some shots on punt RT. Right now, Gay stays in dime, but I have feeling Sutton might see the field quicker than Brian Allen if another DB was needed.

Haley...the man has forgotten more than I know about running OFC...but his play sequence and attention to detail is weak.

Ex...there was a reverse to MB...it was stopped for like a 8 or 9 yd loss. Why you think? Well, for one, obviously IND had seen that formation and that play.

That doesn't mean you can run it, but imo you should run it and not give MB the ball, do something else out of the formation...and you observe...how did they defend it....who did what? Maybe you come back with that play later in the game with some history. The long and short, you run plays to set up other plays, and there nothing preceding that play to set it up so they got exactly what they were expecting on tape.

We see it time and time again. That's not the work of a good OC imo.
 

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Serious Week 10 Notes on Limas:

Kid has game and is adjusting to the NFL way faster than I thought possible. I'm still not seeing the separation but it's not the issue I thought it would be.

I'm not sure what more you want on separation for a guy with his skill set...he's getting open.

We know you're having some fun with Limas...lol Admittedly I wasn't a fan of the pick, but this kid is refreshing to watch...Juju has the potential (appears humble, well spoken, catchy name) to be a big brand in the NFL.
 

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I'm not sure what more you want on separation for a guy with his skill set...he's getting open.

We know you're having some fun with Limas...lol Admittedly I wasn't a fan of the pick, but this kid is refreshing to watch...Juju has the potential (appears humble, well spoken, catchy name) to be a big brand in the NFL.
That and he's genuinely a happy guy and is clearly having fun. Dude is creating is legend.

He was an absolute steal.
 

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Fingers crossed that he returns for the playoffs at full health.
 

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That and he's genuinely a happy guy and is clearly having fun. Dude is creating is legend.

He was an absolute steal.

Yep...in terms of early production, he's killing his draft slot for sure.

The guy I wanted...Duke Riley was playing pretty good for ATL, but ended up on IR...Colbert got the right guy.
 

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Yep...in terms of early production, he's killing his draft slot for sure.

The guy I wanted...Duke Riley was playing pretty good for ATL, but ended up on IR...Colbert got the right guy.
Not only is he far and away the most productive rookie WR out there. And he's also currently the #23 overall WR in the league in yardage, and tied for #8 in TDs.
 
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That doesn't mean you can run it, but imo you should run it and not give MB the ball, do something else out of the formation...and you observe...how did they defend it....who did what? Maybe you come back with that play later in the game with some history. The long and short, you run plays to set up other plays, and there nothing preceding that play to set it up so they got exactly what they were expecting on tape.
I vote for you as our new OC.

Just sayin.
 
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I'm not sure what more you want on separation for a guy with his skill set...he's getting open.

We know you're having some fun with Limas...lol Admittedly I wasn't a fan of the pick, but this kid is refreshing to watch...Juju has the potential (appears humble, well spoken, catchy name) to be a big brand in the NFL.
Well, that's kind of my point. I think I misjudged his skill set and how it would translate. I think this might be why I work in electrical engineering rather than player scouting. And yeah, the whole "Limas" thing is absolute fun and in no way an actual insult. I kind of look forward to calling him Limas one day while he leads the league haha.
 
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At this point calling him Limas is more of a jab at myself than him... if that makes sense. :suds:
 

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I vote for you as our new OC.

Just sayin.
I'd vote for blind ball boy pressing random buttons in Madden to choose plays over Haley.

At least then there might be some randomness and originality to keep opposing teams off guard.
 

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I vote for you as our new OC.

Just sayin.

Thx...but 40+ yrs of watching the pro game...most of the teams run similar plays...when you watch guys like Sean Payton and McDaniels...they always seem to have a player factor that you weren't accounting for...with all the auxiliary players at his disposal I just don't see why they don't get used.
 
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