Jayden Daniels ~ ‘that’s our QB’

[j_y19]

DGF is being foolish . Joe Gibbs had sustained success with 3 different, avg qbs none were elite .

Eli Manning isn’t elite and he won 2 titles

Stafford has a Super Bowl win and the rams have been playoff contenders since then even with his career sub 500 record

Joe Flacco won a superbowl and his ravens were year in year out contenders

Now is it easier with an elite qb ? Hell yes it is and no one is or was saying anything different.

What is being challenged is it is an absolute! It is not

And no matter how many times he wants to move the debating goal posts it won’t change

Couldn’t say it better myself.

 

[Stymietee]

DGF is being foolish . Joe Gibbs had sustained success with 3 different, avg qbs none were elite .

Eli Manning isn’t elite and he won 2 titles

Stafford has a Super Bowl win and the rams have been playoff contenders since then even with his career sub 500 record

Joe Flacco won a superbowl and his ravens were year in year out contenders

Now is it easier with an elite qb ? Hell yes it is and no one is or was saying anything different.

What is being challenged is it is an absolute! It is not

And no matter how many times he wants to move the debating goal posts it won’t change

There's a reason why I stopped debating this and other things that were falsely attributed to others here. There are posters who will interject something like "it being an absolute" then argue against it as if the person they are in exchange with actually said/wrote it. To be clear, no one has ever suggested that "it was an absolute!" I don't understand why this is a honest debate point.

 

[skinsdad62]

There's a reason why I stopped debating this and other things that were falsely attributed to others here. There are posters who will interject something like "it being an absolute" then argue against it as if the person they are in exchange with actually said/wrote it. To be clear, no one has ever suggested that "it was an absolute!" I don't understand why this is a honest debate point.

I beg to differ sty , he plainly said it in the past. In fact in this latest rendition of this debate he clearly stated that the avg qbs could not sustain it as the new standard .

 

[Stymietee]

I beg to differ sty , he plainly said it in the past. In fact in this latest rendition of this debate he clearly stated that the avg qbs could not sustain it as the new standard .

He's correct, average is average and his point is... sustaining the exceptional one offs that can happen with average guys.
Statistically, I'm sure that any one here can throw out a couple of names that have become anomalies, but anecdotal evidence isn't evidence that supports probable when talking about statistical norms.

 

[skinsdad62]

He's correct, average is average and his point is... sustaining the exceptional one offs that can happen with average guys.
Statistically, I'm sure that any one here can throw out a couple of names that have become anomalies, but anecdotal evidence isn't evidence that supports probable when talking about statistical norms.

Well I gave 4 examples of sustained contender ship by the avg qb using his standard

 

[Stymietee]

Well I gave 4 examples of sustained contender ship by the avg qb using his standard

Exactly!! 4 out of 58 does not a statistical probability make. A possibility? Yep!!

 

[skinsdad62]

Exactly!! 4 out of 58 does not a statistical probability make. A possibility? Yep!!

Sty are we talking about 58 Super Bowls ? It was said you had to have one to win one . Then it was changed to consistently win after winning a superbowl.

I have stated quite a bit even in this thread that it’s easier to win one with a great qb

But if it’s 4 out of 58. , 1 out of 100 or 1000 the fact is if it was done once , then absolutely needing one is proven not to be the case and we are talking about absolutely needing one

 

[Stymietee]

Sty are we talking about 58 Super Bowls ? It was said you had to have one to win one . Then it was changed to consistently win after winning a superbowl.

I have stated quite a bit even in this thread that it’s easier to win one with a great qb

But if it’s 4 out of 58. , 1 out of 100 or 1000 the fact is if it was done once , then absolutely needing one is proven not to be the case and we are talking about absolutely needing one

Ok, the last word is yours, if we're going to repeat debating points not entered into the conversation. I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong so,
Let me ask directly to @Darrell Green Fan... did you or did you not at some point state/write that you "absolutely needed" a star, stud or whatever, type QB to win a SB. Perhaps I misread what you wrote, so I'm turning to you for clarity on this. Thanks!