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LOL at all of this.
i'm not trying to argue either, i even said my defense of the tennis courts was mostly in jest, as long as they plan on building new ones somewhere else
I would guess that finding a place for the tennis courts wont be a problem. If that is where they decide to build, look at it this way: the new courts will prob be a lot nicer with any and all the bells and whistles to go along with it. So hopefully it will be a win/win for everyone.
WTF... that was... this is... Right after issuance of the GD rule!
I almost have to salute you for the ballsy, fuck the police attitude.
But...
Fuck you![]()
How is historical significance derived from there not being any others on campus? These trees don't mean anything to VT. They may mean something to an individual such as this prof, but not to VT as a whole. When have you seen them on the cover of the alumni mag, or a VT website, or anything like that (other than as a result of an article about this stink)?
edit damn you that was my first neg!
I'm going to have to disagree with your interpretation of historical significance. Considering they've been there longer than the campus itself, I'd say they have some meaning to VT. It's like the Hokie Stone. It has no real meaning behind it, but to some people its uniqueness has created significance to the campus over the years.
And since 10,000 people have signed a petition to keep the trees, I'd say that they mean something to more than just an individual. Seiler is the spokesman, but he's not the only person behind this.
Better add some trash collection funds to keep it cleaned up. Perhaps that should be added to the professor's responsibilities.
hah whoops. I know it doesn't matter but I was going to change it later after you notice.
Shit's locked out though...
so...
Whoops.
How can its uniqueness have created significance to the campus over the years when it's uniqueness wasn't even recognized until just recently?
Long term existence does not equate to meaning something to the university. They mean something to PEOPLE, not to the university, which has never shown any care for them. Neither have a lot of people, judging by the trash in them...
I did not mean to imply that Seiler is the only one who cares about them. Obviously there are plenty of other people who at least say they care (for many, and probably most, it is not really that big a deal but signing a petition doesn't cost them anything and is "the PC/cool thing to do"). But for crying out loud, there are people who care about anything and everything, with all kinds of lousy reasons. I'm trying to find (or establish the lack thereof) an objective reason not to build the facility there. Are there reasons to move it? Yes. Are there reasons to go ahead? Yes. Which side's reasons are better? In my mind, building the facility... by a country mile.
Discoveries are made all the time. If Stonehenge or the pyramids were discovered tomorrow and no one knew about them, that would be a pretty significant discovery. Now the trees are no where near that significant, but I believe there is significance to them because of their age and uniqueness.
Without people, the university would not be anything. Does the football team mean anything with the people? I would say until Frank Beamer took over there wasn't a whole lot of "meaning" behind the football team, but I know a lot of people would disagree with me because they loved VT and therefore loved the football team. I did not attend VT until 2005 so it's hard for me to find meaning to football beyond Frank Beamer, but I'm sure there are fans who can. Same can be said for these trees. You may think that they are nothing and a dumping ground, but it doesn't mean others felt the same way. Maybe this publicity will help improve the significance and meaning behind the trees to meet your criteria.
Fair enough and you make good points, but we're just on the opposite side of the fence here.