Discussion in 'Notre Dame Fighting Irish' started by bksballer89, Nov 30, 2019 at 6:17 PM.
This is exactly what I expected.
Regular season was a success IMO
10 wins is a good season but the way they got man handled against Michigan killed the buzz for the rest of the season for me
True but hard to not be happy with 3 straight 10 win seasons including one that ended in thee cfb playoffs.
Third straight 10 win season is the kind of consistency that the program has needed to take the next step so its a good thing.
That said the only two teams worth a shit on the schedule except for maybe USC or UVA, beat us and the stink of the Michigan game just wont wash off.
they’re finally burying the teams they’re supposed to, although today’s game was ugly in the first half.
Yes it was ugly in the first half but they made adjustments and settled into the game during the second half. Overall 10-2 is a good season and the kind of consistency they need. I it that said how they played against Michigan can't be excused.
it will never change with kelly at the helm. so get used to this we're really good except for .....
You prefer the years we had before Kelly?
Kelly won 10+ games 5X since he's been here.
Guess you were happy with the mediocre/inconsistency we got often from Weis, Willingham, and Davie
this is like a child's comment.
yeah, you dumbass. i really want them to be worse!
i grew up in a time when notre dame was at the very least, relevant every year. during a large portion of my lifetime ND was an elite program. they were the yankees of college football and they struck fear into the hearts of their opponents. that time is gone. left to the pussies like yourself who are used to losing the big games and are so thankful that they win more than they lose now. do you know what their record under this crap coach has been playing against the really good teams in the game? 0-5 vs top 5 teams! 3 by more than 14 points. in the last 100 games (pretty much most of kelly's tenure here) they are 3-9 vs top ten teams. but hey, if you're happy beating the navys and vanderbilts and wake forests then more power to you.
my standards aren't the charlie weis's or bob davie's (like yours so obviously are). mine are the leahys, holtz's and the parseghians.
so excuse me if i think kelly stinks as a head coach, regardless of his over-all record.
Michigan was definitely the better mudder team.
there will always be people unhappy unless you go 14-0. this is not the 1960's or 70's. notre dame has high academics standards, and is not a southern school situated in football heaven. they have recruiting issues to deal with that most other top ranked football schools don't.
of the course the michigan game is a head scratcher. even though there was torrential rain storm the team seemed completely unprepared, and underachieved badly. had they won that game, they are in the running for #4, albeit highly unlikely they would have been chosen to be part of the phoney 4 team playoff.
a 10 win season is good, and certainly no reason to fire kelly. beating a top ten team in a bowl game would make the season very good. hopefully they get the opportunity.
ND has always has high standards. no excuse imo. and ND didn't win championships year after year after year either so no, i don't expect perfection. i expect them to be elite competitive, that's all ... and they're not.
the michigan game was not a head scratcher either (and it rained for both teams!) (and they DIDN'T win so your fairy-tail win like you suggested is a waste of everyone's time). it never surprises me when they get smashed like that because kelly is not an elite coach. in fact he's downright stupid much of the time and you all KNOW this. many of his calls are "head scratchers" because he's a lousy field coach. he doesn't know how to get his teams prepared for even poor teams much of the time. so many games where they're either losing or barely in front at halftimes vs average teams. his shortcomings list is long.
aw, the boards biggest crybaby(and that's saying a lot) and kelly hater speaks.
is there another school with a 18% acceptance rate that is ranked higher than notre dame? if you'd like to compare the entrance requirements in the 1970's to today's, please provide some links with evidence.
i suggested a fairy tale like win? what post are you reading?
you don't really know how good they are because there is no real playoff system. they only play who's on the schedule. they beat lsu in a bowl game in 2018, lost only to clemson(who crushed everyone) last year. this year they were competitive with #4 georgia on the road, and went 10-2. they were favored to beat michigan but for whatever reason didn't perform well. if you knew anything about sports you'd know bad weather is an equalizer and can completely change the complexion of a game. whether that was the reason, i don't know, i don't practice with the team. but hanging everything on kelly, and saying the team is failure, because of that loss, is stupid. kelly doesn't even call plays. he has an OC and a DC that do that. and every team has bad days. they happen for a variety of reasons. nd's bad days have been far and few between over the last few years. far less than before kelly showed up. they have 3 10+win seasons in a row, and kelly was selected AP coach of the year last year.
fanboys like you who are so emotionally involved watching other people play football, and bitching on message boards, about a stupid game, make me laugh. maybe you should get out, and live for yourself more.
michigan game is a head scratcher. even though there was torrential rain storm the team seemed completely unprepared, and underachieved badly. had they won that game, they are in the running for #4,
THIS fairy tale where you suggest where they're rated IF they'd won. hey, if they'd also beat georgia they'd be in the playoffs too. in fact, if penn state had won all their games so would they. it's easy to "IF" your way through a discussion. i gave you some hard facts and you have no answers. let me address your non-points: acceptance rate? is it any different than when they were a elite team? no! was lsu of 2017 (not 2018) team the same as this year's lsu? no! they went 9-4. they lost to TROY and mississippi state!
and everybody plays who's on their schedules. over time (ten years in this case, it all works out.
just ignore the 'facts' i gave you and spin the rest. you apologists make me ill. kelly has sucked for ten years and it shows in their records against elite teams which i pointed out and you pretend didn't happen. if there's a fanboy here it's you! enjoy those ten-win seasons if you want ... and ignore those defeats against the really good teams. doesn't take much to please you as a fan .... obviously.
i agree, if if they beat georgia and michigan, they'd be in the playoffs. profound point.
like i said, if you want to compare academics standards between now and the 70's post some evidence. my understanding is it has gotten more difficult to be acceptance.
Notre Dame's Athletic Standards Lowered To Accomodate Academics
ever count how many consensus all americans notre dame has had over the last ten years compared to some of the sec teams or ohio state?
there's a reason you are a complainer on a message board and kelly was last year's ap coach of the year, for the second time. anyone can be a critic. they went 13-1 last year, losing only to clemson, a team that blew out alabama, and you cried all last year too.
apparently that makes every team to you really good because if they didn't lose the games they lost they'd be in the playoffs. right?
if you believe this is a profound point then you're not worth the effort here.
i'll just leave it at this .... in spite of your 'coach of the year' crap and other insignificant bullshit claims ... as soon as ND beats the big teams on at least a 50% rate i will stop "crying and complaining" about their coach. until then, get over it!
you're the one who made the ridiculous statement that if notre dame has beaten georgia and michigan they'd be in the playoffs, i was just agreeing with you(sarcastically).
apparently your reading comprehension is not very good, the fact that they have very few consensus all americans, over the last ten years, shows they don't have great players compared to the sec teams or ohio state.
a small percentage of high school all americans even qualify to be accepted to notre dame.
even paul hornung has publicly requested notre dame lower their academic standards. lou holtz left notre dame complaining about the difficulty recruiting.
notre dame might play one elite team a year if they are lucky. bama, ohio state, clemson, lsu, florida, oklahoma are just not on the schedule. so it's difficult to beat these teams if they don't play them. otherwise they'll beaten several ranked teams over the last couple of years. and you'll complain even when they do beat the elites.
just so you know this is YOUR quote in post 11 of this thread ... not mine: ""michigan game is a head scratcher. even though there was torrential rain storm the team seemed completely unprepared, and underachieved badly. had they won that game, they are in the running for #4, ""
it was YOUR ridiculous statement not mine! apparently your reading comprehension is not very good.
""and you'll complain even when they do beat the elites.""
when all else fails just make shit up.
aside from you ignoring half the post, what is it about this you don't understand?
.....seemed completely unprepared, and underachieved badly.
not making anything up. three 10 win seasons in a row, an unbeaten regular season last year, and you've done nothing but criticize. and i'm sure you were leading the fire kelly bandwagon 3 years ago.
much of your post dealt with something i did post but then deleted within 2 minutes of that post because when i realized what you were saying i rethought it. obviously you were sitting there waiting.
as for your 3 10 win seasons .... they lost to the only good teams they played this year. last year they did beat an ok stanford team but then stanford did lose 4 games to some underwhelming teams. they did beat a 7 loss pitt team in their bowl game however. impressive!
the year before they lost to georgia early, admittedly a very good team ... but, they LOST. they also lost to miami (41 to 8) who lost their last three games including to a 7 loss pitt team and a 5 loss stanford team. yeah, ND won 10 that year too. against a weak schedule.
unlike you i don't gauge a team by how many games they win but rather by who they beat. also by wins they look bad in.
now, aside from ignoring most of MY posts like the hypocrite you seemingly are, you are also wrong about another thing. i was on the fire kelly bandwagon from his 3rd season on.
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