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[sychmd]

not mad. i enjoy everyone's opinions as none of us are experts or have the facts or we would be in the baseball business.
people continuing to bash each other (i know that's what i did in my post though) and nitpicking every point as if all their info was accurate, and more importantly, the attitude, motivation and heart that seem to be behind it the comments are disheartening.
i dont want to hit ignore, because i enjoy the gamut of baseball related comments, but....
i get sad when i see so much energy and scrutiny put into this trivial board and wonder if they are giving as much effort to battling the real injustices in the world, home or abroad.
thanks for your interest and allowing a vent.

 

[magnumo]

ETRIUS ALERT

ETRIUS ALERT: Perhaps the heart of the matter.....

I have already addressed most of the claims and assertions in your post #20. I will leave it to the judgement of anyone reading this stuff to decide who is accurate and who is misleading. I will, however, address a couple of items:

<snipped false and repetitive stuff>

But as for the rest of that post...What I said is true... This is the internet...What people say about themselves is of no consequence... Their opinion of you or me is also of no consequence...Because this is only the internet and it is a message board.

That statement of your position is quite clear and is consistent with your behavior.

I happen to have a different perspective: I believe that behavior and interactions on the internet should be guided by the same principles which guide behavior and interactions in person. In a civilized society, people should respect their readers on the internet in the same way they respect their listeners anywhere else. Conversing on the internet does NOT excuse people from assuming responsibility for their veracity, reliability, and credibility..... and their reputations.

<snipped more nonsense>

Oh and by the way.. you started these alerts... and you stated your reasons for doing it and told us all of your "Pledge"

Who the hell are you to say who can and cannot have an Alert post??? I did not get the memo that stated you were God and in control of these here message boards.

- Yes, I did start "these alerts" (to address Stillmatic's concern). And my pledge stands.

- However, I NEVER said anything about "who can and cannot have an Alert post." That claim by you is completely false. (In fact, I have congratulated you for adding "Mags Alert" to your posts.) And by the way, I didn't get the memo either, nor have I EVER claimed to control ANY message board. Just more of your false nonsense.

- You stated (in your post #12): "I would hate for Mags to have an Illinest Alert". In reply (in my post #14), I stated: "Finally, there is no conceivable (reason) for an 'Illinest Alert' ... Although Illinest and I disagree on some things, his posts are cogent and civilized..." My opinion is that ANY reasonable reader would understand my response to mean that I, myself, have no reason to create an "Illinest Alert." Perhaps, to assist with your understanding, I should have have expanded my statement into this: "In response to your statement that you 'would hate for Mags to have an Illinest Alert,' I want to assure you that I have no conceivable reason to create an Illinest Alert myself. Although Illinest and I disagree on some things, his posts are cogent and civilized (unlike yours). But if YOU want to post 'Illinest Alerts,' help yourself."

 

[Etrius24]

Mags alert

Mags you have a comprehension problem... I never said that behavior on the internet should be different than in real life. I will even give you an example... If you were standing beside me and instead of talking pirates baseball you said you thought I had a bad reputation... I would tell you to fuck off.. If you wanted to talk baseball that would be okay.

You are not interested in talking baseball as much as you claim you are...

I understand now, it is all the value you are adding to these boards with your "Alerts"

Good job mags

This ends the alert.

 

[magnumo]

ETRIUS ALERT

ETRIUS ALERT: More nonsense and more heart of the matter.....

Mags alert
Mags you have a comprehension problem... I never said that behavior on the internet should be different than in real life.

I have a comprehension problem??? My posts demonstrate conclusively that I comprehend you completely.

What have YOU said and demonstrated repeatedly? (I'll list only a few.)
- You make false statement after false claim after false assertion.
- You don't care what others think. You care only about what you think.
- You don't care about your reputation.
- You don't care about getting your facts straight.
- You NEVER take responsibility. Your failings are always someone else's fault.
- You accuse people constantly of saying things that they have NOT said.
- You apply endless spin in your failed attempts to self-justify.
- You cuss at people and engage in namecalling.
- You make inappropriate personal comments.
- You talk a LOT but rarely add anything of value.

If you behave that way in real life (as you probably do), I speculate (with a high degree of confidence) that your reputation in real life is even worse than it is on this board. You would be well-served to think about that..... although I expect that it goes right over your head in real life, just as it does on this board.

 

[Etrius24]

Mags Alert

Pot this is Kettle... come in Pot...

Mags tell me how much value did post #24 add to this board exactly?

It was repetitious, off topic, argumentative, and based purely on your opinion ( which is not fact )

How much value did that add again?

This ends the Mags alert.

 

[stillmatic32]

I do like how Etrius formally ends his Mags alerts.

 

[powerchord86]

Can someone make en alert for me? That would be killer!

 

[magnumo]

ETRIUS ALERT

ETRIUS ALERT: Reply to post #25

I readily admit that the ONLY value in my post #24 was in refuting your false claim in your post #23, i.e., that I have a "comprehension problem."

I could have refuted yet another false claim in post #23, i.e., that I'm not interested in talking baseball, but I chose to let that one go, since my "non-Etrius-Alert" posts demonstrate my interest so clearly and obviously as to make further refutation unnecessary.

And you make yet another false claim in your post #25, namely that my post was based purely on my opinion. First, it is not just my opinion. Several others have posted the same opinion. Further, that opinion is based on facts, namely:

- Many erroneuous statements which you have posted (which have been pointed out and specifically refuted)

- Direct statements you have made about yourself

- Specific false accusations directed toward me and others (which have been specifically refuted by me and others)

- Specific instances of you cussing at people, name-calling, and making inappropriate personal comments.

Those are all facts and remain all over the board for anyone to read.

And I have yet to see a single example where you took responsibility for posting anything wrong..... but I MAY have missed one. Unless you can find an example and point it out, it seems to me that your failure to take responsibility AND your always blaming someone else must also stand as fact.

Bottom line: If you continue making false statements, I will continue to refute them. The good news (for the board) is that anyone can ignore us, or can ignore these "ALERT" posts, as they choose.

 

[Etrius24]

Mags Alert

Okay mags to post #28 I quote:
And you make yet another false claim in your post #25, namely that my post was based purely on my opinion. First, it is not just my opinion.

Okay See this is why I love your idea for the alerts... My statement about Post #24 is accurate and your statement in post#28 does not change that... I will explain...

See mags you were being argumentative, repetitious ( going back over previously covered ground with general statements) and you specifically stated your opinion

Like when you surmised how things might be going on in my life in the real world... This is your opinion!

Also

In post #24 you accuse me of putting spin on the things I say... So we need to have an Alert in the alert:
Mags extra special alert Mags that is what you are doing!!! You will of course now come back and say that is NOT what you are doing, but that does not change the fact that it is indeed what you continue to do.

You have made your pledge, and you have made your lists, and you will not let go... But go on and keep pretending you are not putting any spin on anything you have posted.

And onto post #28... when you said:I could have refuted yet another false claim in post #23, i.e., that I'm not interested in talking baseball, but I chose to let that one go, since my "non-Etrius-Alert" posts demonstrate my interest so clearly and obviously as to make further refutation unnecessary.

Mags you did not quote me accurately or fully ( something you have chastised me for in the past... seems you are a hypocrite!!!) I will now go back and post EXACTLY what I said and I will break it down for you:You are not interested in talking baseball as much as you claim you are...

I understand now, it is all the value you are adding to these boards with your "Alerts"

Good job mags

This ends the alert.

I said You are not interested in talking baseball as much as YOU CLAIM YOU ARE

The fact that you skipped over this when you quoted me points us in the right direction with you... Combine this with the fact that you have made your pledge, you have comprised your lists and you are hell bent on making sure that post add value to this board ( though you admit your alerts do not really do this)

It all shows another side to you Mags... I said you were obsessed before and I am even more convinced of it now.

Oh and by the way.... I can give you an example of a mistake I made that I admitted... I even tried to talk about it... Want to play???

214, and 241... I never denied mixing the numbers up.... you instantly pounced on me for this... and just another tidbit... I was talking baseball... But I guess you forgot about that because that would be me adding value to the forum.

Late at night I mixed the two sets of numbers up and made the error... You had some smart ass comment about it.. and that started all of this...Which was funny because either number would have worked for my argument about it being too much money to pay the free agent ( Fielder )

Care to do some recanting or apologizing Magsie?

Lets talk about another gem from you and I quote from post #28:
Bottom line: If you continue making false statements, I will continue to refute them. The good news (for the board) is that anyone can ignore us, or can ignore these "ALERT" posts, as they choose.

Okay mags let's talk about this! You said that the good news for the board is that they can choose to ignore these alerts...as they choose... Which is interesting, because if you disagreed with a post of mine in the first place you could take the same advice and simply ignore it.... But when the shoe is on the other foot you dig in and hide behind your pledge armed with your list on the mission of making sure all posts are adding value.

It seems interesting that you could not take your own advice. ( and I know you will counter that you are not giving this advice, but making a general statement in such a way is suggestive because you are talking about something negatively, and then giving people options for avoiding something negative. )

This ends The regular and the extra specialMags alerts

 

[goDAWGSsicem]

So... you guys need some baseball... pronto.

 

[Etrius24]

Dawgs,

A agree I am eager for the games to start.... but I would be shocked if it changed the way that Mags reacts towards me at all.

 

[herky]

goDAWGS alert

These guys need more than baseball.

 

[goDAWGSsicem]

LOL

 

[magnumo]

ETRIUS ALERT

ETRIUS ALERT: Reply to post #29

Nope..... no reply..... not worthy of a reply. More nonsense (several hundreds of words of it this time). That is all. QED.

 

[Etrius24]

Mags Alert

Wow mags you solved a math equation at one time or another... We used to write QED in calculus when we solved problems too... Truly I am impressed, or not you can decide which.

And I love how when I quote you directly... and turn it back around on you... It is suddenly not worth your time.

Thank you for playing, this ends this Mags Alert

 

[magnumo]

ETRIUS ALERT

ETRIUS ALERT: Post #29 and Post #35.

I was going to let post #29 go with a minimal response, FOR SEVERAL REASONS:

- Been there, done that: I have previously addressed such posts, piece by piece, and specifically demonstrated how each piece was wrong or non-value-adding (as SUMMARIZED in my posts #24 and #28 in this thread).

- I have serious doubts whether anyone (other than you and me) wasted the time to read your post #29, thus making a detailed reply pointless.

- Those posts (your #29 and #35) consist of such convoluted illogic that it's difficult to extract specific points to refute. (Once extracted, each point is ridiculously EASY to refute.)

But apparently you seek yet another "shredding." So here we go.....

False claim #1: My post #24 is based purely on my opinion.

Truth #1:

- My post #24 summarizes how you behave, specific stuff you have posted, and statements you have made about yourself. That description is factual, as documented in many other posts.

- The only "opinion" in the list is the last item: "You talk a lot but rarely add anything of value." (Actually, the part about you talking a lot is indisputable fact, as well.) The opinion part is based on all the facts which precede it....AND is not just MY opinion, but also the opinion of SEVERAL OTHERS who have posted similar comments on this board.

- My statement about the way you behave in real life is NOT an "opinion"..... instead it is a "speculation," and I specifically identified it as such. Since I have met over 25 people in real life whom I first came to know on the internet, I made that "speculation" with a high degree of confidence. While I have been surprised by some people's appearance, occasionally by age, and even once by gender, I have NEVER been surprised by personality or behavior. In EVERY single case, each of those people matched EXACTLY in real life (in terms of personality and behavior) with what I had come to expect from interactions on the internet.

False claim #2: I am "spinning" what I post.

Truth #2: I do not "spin" anything. I post facts, information, my opinions, hopes and fears about the Pirates. When I post an opinion, I support it with facts, stats, links, references, and logic. I will leave judgement about that to ANY reader other than you.

False claim #3: You claimed that I "quoted" you inaccurately and incompletely, and called me a "hypocrite," for posting: "I could have refuted yet another false claim in post #23, i.e., that I'm not interested in talking baseball, but I chose to let that one go, since my "non-Etrius-Alert" posts demonstrate my interest so clearly and obviously as to make further refutation unnecessary"..... because I did not include the clause "as much as I claim I am." So, presumably, you would have preferred me to post, "I could have refuted yet another false claim in post #23, i.e. that I'm not interested in talking baseball as much as I claim I am, but I chose to let that one go, since my non-Etrius-Alert posts demonstrate my interest so clearly and obviously as to make further refutation unnecessary."

Truth #3:

- I left out the clause because there's no way for you, or me, or anyone else to MEASURE whether I'm as interested in talking baseball "as much as I claim I am." Hence that clause is valueless..... and leaving it out does not change the essential meaning of your claim.

- But leave it in there if you like. I submit that the same answer ("my non-Etrius-posts demonstrate my interest so clearly and obviously as to make further refutation unnecessary") refutes your claim either way, WITH OR WITHOUT that clause.

False claim #4: I admit that my alerts add no value.

Truth #4: I have stated that the ONLY value my alert posts add is to correct your false claims. You have yet to take responsibility for any of your false claims..... OR your own alert posts, which add ZERO value, because yours consist only of more false claims.

False claim #5: I instantly "pounced on you" for your false statement about the size of Fielder's contract. In other posts, you have claimed (falsely) that I made snide or smart-ass comments about that post.

Truth #5:

- You have referred to that post NUMEROUS times, but you have never taken responsibility. Instead, you have written it off as a late-at-night typo, and have blamed me repeatedly (in other words, it's not your fault).

- I invite anyone who remains interested to look back at the the thread titled, "Why are the Pirates being so quiet?" where the exchange occurred. The relevant posts are #21 through #26. A summary of relevant points follows:

-----Post #21: You posted the erroneous statement (Fielder's $241 million contract).

-----Post #22: I posted a correction (about 18 hours later..... hardly a "pounce"). Nothing in that post (or the context up to that point) is "snide" or "smart-assed."

-----Post #23: You called me a prick AND got sarcastic.

-----Post #24: I said that if you post something wrong, I will post a correction, and called you on the name-calling.

-----Post #25: You accused me of nitpicking, called me a prick again, called me obsessive.

-----Post #26: I repeated that I will post corrections whenever you post factually wrong stuff.

Subsequently, in the same thread:

-----Post #28: In reply to Illinest, you blamed the exchange on me and took no responsibility.

-----Post #31: In reply to Tox 1, you blamed the exchange on me and took no responsibility.

-----Post #35: You replied negatively to thecrow124's posts #32 and #34, which he wrote specifically about you.

-----Post #36: Thecrow124 replied to your post #35 and spelled it out for you.

-----Post #45: In reply to powerchord86, you blamed the exchange on me and took no responsibility.

Anyone can read the summary above or re-read the complete posts and draw their own conclusions.

I owe you no apology or recant. Nor do I owe you any kind of apology for pointing out your numerous OTHER false statements, which include:

- Commending Huntington for making McCutchen a super-two (when he did just the opposite)

- Claiming the move (actually, preventing McC from becoming a super-two) was "brilliant" (when anyone else in charge of the team probably would have done the same thing)

- Calling Evans an "elite" defensive first baseman (when the guy has only 53 major league appearances there)

- Calling McGehee a "steady" player (when he tanked last season to a slash line of .223/.280/.346/.626)

- Stating that Hanrahan makes "almost nothing" (when his salary is $4.1 million, which clearly is more than "almost nothing" in any relevant context)

- Accusing Illinest of saying you were not a fan of the Pirates (when he never said any such thing)

.....and I could list MANY more. You have never admitted that any of those statements were wrong, have defended many of them ad nauseam, and you certainly have taken no responsibility for any of them.

Nonsense #6: I'm not going to label the final paragraphs of your post #29 as a "false statement" per se, because they are such a mish-mash of illogical, rambling nonsense that "a false statement" would be inaccurate.

Truth #6:

- I stated that the good news is that anyone can choose to ignore us and/or these alert posts. That is absolutely true..... and I'm sure appreciated by at least some readers.

- You stated that if I disagreed with a post of yours, I could take the same advice and ignore it. There are at least three specific problems with that statement:

----- I never gave anyone advice about ignoring posts. Instead, I stated that anyone could ignore whomever or whatever they choose. I choose NOT to ignore false claims or factual errors posted by you or anyone esle..... which is totally consistent with everything I've posted in this thread and elsewhere.

----- I do not reply to you when you post something I simply DISAGREE with..... either because others have already done so..... or you repeat something which has already been discussed to conclusion..... or your post is so empty that it's not worth a response.

----- When you post something which is FALSE, MISLEADING, OR WRONG, I will NOT ignore it, but will correct it (as I have stated so many times in the past).

As far as your post #35 goes: Not much there.....

- A bit of sarcasm (which typically I DO ignore).

- Now I HAVE taken the time (at your challenge in post #35) to refute everything in post #29. Hope you're happy with that.

- Your misguided and ineffective attempts to turn my quotes back on me serve ONLY to confirm my previous characterizations of your posts. Again, QED. (At least you seem to understand the term.)