How to fix the CAP CIRCUMVENTION

[CatScrap]

sorry bout the spelling, and my absence as of late. My job required 2 people to leave, and me to stay while doing their jobs and mine.

How do you guys see the league fixing this problem?

I have a couple ideas.

First idea, no contracts longer than 10 years if you are age 25 or younger, no contracts longer than 5 years if you are older than 25, and no contracts longer than 1 year if you are 35 or older.

With this system, the oldest a player could be before going to the year to year contracts would be 39. a reasonable age.

Second idea, salary levels from one year to the next in a contract CANNOT drop, they can only stay the same or increase. This will prevent front loading with extra years tacked on the back that the player isn't actually going to play.

Third idea. If a player can sign a contract before the age of 37 and then retire afterward without it counting against the cap, make it so contract that are signed by players under the age of 37 cannot take a player into a season that he will be 38 years of age during. This will prevent the hey I'm 36 and gonna sign a 9 year contract for 12 million a year for the first 2 years and then retire.

What you guys think
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[dare2be]

I still think my simple formula would cover all contingencies:

The difference between the max salary year and min salary year in a contract can't be more than the cap hit amount, and the difference from one year to the next can't be more than half the cap hit amount (already in place I believe).

 

[puckhead]

I still think my simple formula would cover all contingencies:

The difference between the max salary year and min salary year in a contract can't be more than the cap hit amount, and the difference from one year to the next can't be more than half the cap hit amount (already in place I believe).

yeah, some very simple max / min parameters or max divergence from the cap hit will take care of it.

 

[The Q stache]

or couldn't they just make it were what you get paid in a given season is your cap hit.

 

[juliansteed]

or couldn't they just make it were what you get paid in a given season is your cap hit.

That's just too confusing.

 

[Dacks]

or couldn't they just make it were what you get paid in a given season is your cap hit.

The idea of a salary cap isn't to prevent teams from spending too much, but to prevent them from buying all the best players. To do this you need to use the average salary.

Otherwise, you could rig your salary spending in such a way that you would have a roster worth much more than the cap. For example, suppose Crosby and Ovechkin are both worth 9 million dollars. Unfortunately you only have 12 million in cap space. Easy solution. Sign Crosby to a two year deal. 12 million this year, 6 million the next. Next summer, sign Ovechkin for a two year deal as well, 6 million his first year, twelve million after that.

Each player gets their average of 9 million so they are happy. But in the second of those two seasons, you get two players worth cumulatively 18 million for only 12 million of cap space. So it's still cap circumvention, and if I can come up with this scenario in thirty seconds, imagine what the GM's will come up with.

Easy solution (and I've said it before): If a player retires early, and the total money they've made is greater than the cumulative cap hit against their team, then the difference is paid over the remaining years of the contract. This essentially negates any advantage of Kovy type deals, without damaging teams whose players legitimately retire early.

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

The idea of a salary cap isn't to prevent teams from spending too much, but to prevent them from buying all the best players. To do this you need to use the average salary.

Otherwise, you could rig your salary spending in such a way that you would have a roster worth much more than the cap. For example, suppose Crosby and Ovechkin are both worth 9 million dollars. Unfortunately you only have 12 million in cap space. Easy solution. Sign Crosby to a two year deal. 12 million this year, 6 million the next. Next summer, sign Ovechkin for a two year deal as well, 6 million his first year, twelve million after that.

Each player gets their average of 9 million so they are happy. But in the second of those two seasons, you get two players worth cumulatively 18 million for only 12 million of cap space. So it's still cap circumvention, and if I can come up with this scenario in thirty seconds, imagine what the GM's will come up with.

Easy solution (and I've said it before): If a player retires early, and the total money they've made is greater than the cumulative cap hit against their team, then the difference is paid over the remaining years of the contract. This essentially negates any advantage of Kovy type deals, without damaging teams whose players legitimately retire early.

In that second year... how is that still12 mil in cap space?
Reading this on a phone... so maybe I missed somthing.


Edit; I see what I missed. Still.. that example assumes being able to afford 12 mil hits in the 2 surrounding years, with no the players needing to be signed. So it oversimplifies it a bit, but point taken.