how much is riley worth ?

[skinsdad62]

Offseason questions: How much is Perry Riley Jr. worth?

he could ask for 7 mil . i cant more then 3.5 to 4 mil

 

[Skin'EmAll]

Yeah this is a tough call because, anything over 4mil IMO is insane. He has games where he is a tackling machine
and games where he is a ghost. He has played next to a top 10 MLB, and has remained average.

The one thing he has going for him is that the scheme is the same and so he has value to a rookie or veteran ILB they bring in. Also he is a great blitzer and that part of his game has been sorely underutilized

 

[skinsdad62]

Redskins salary cap analysis: How much for Orakpo, Riley? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

here is some more speculation

 

[j_y19]

He is a good ILB, nothing more. He might get $5m/year, but $4m is more realistic. Don't be surprised if they let him test the FA waters if these stories are true.

 

[gkekoa]

There is no way he gets an Ellerbe contract. Ellerbe was an absolute stud, possibly the best defensive player, on the SB winner.

 

[Sharkinva]

As usual I think you guys are under valuing a players worth based on the team finishing 3-13. We over spent to try and prop up the offense, now you want to let the few players of worth on the defense test the free agent waters in the hopes that we can get them to stay for less than market value. If we dont pay Riley and Rak, some one else will and thats just two more holes we will try to fill with guys we will pay just as much if not more.

 

[j_y19]

As usual I think you guys are under valuing a players worth based on the team finishing 3-13. We over spent to try and prop up the offense, now you want to let the few players of worth on the defense test the free agent waters in the hopes that we can get them to stay for less than market value. If we dont pay Riley and Rak, some one else will and thats just two more holes we will try to fill with guys we will pay just as much if not more.

There is a difference between RAK and Riley. There are not many good OLBs in FA this year, RAK is at the top of the list. Thus, based on supply and demand, he will garner a premium for which we will have to recognize. Riley is one of quite a few good/avg ILBs entering the FA market this year. Let's be real, he is no where near PB talent level. I would still welcome him back, but we don't need to over pay him, he is replaceable. The point is if he thinks he's getting Ellerbe money, he is way off base. He therefore needs to test the waters to bring him back in line with reality. Now, I don't know if these reports are true or not. But his value is in the $4-5M range.

 

[deanpet21]

I agree no more than 4-5 million. 5 mil is kind of high but we cant lose him over a mil.

 

[SkinsDalltheWay]

This team has a ways to go. We cant start overspending on players out of fear. If they hit the market and other teams pay more than so be it.

 

[skinsdad62]

As usual I think you guys are under valuing a players worth based on the team finishing 3-13. We over spent to try and prop up the offense, now you want to let the few players of worth on the defense test the free agent waters in the hopes that we can get them to stay for less than market value. If we dont pay Riley and Rak, some one else will and thats just two more holes we will try to fill with guys we will pay just as much if not more.

i like riley . he has played well for us , but we cant pay 7 mil a years for him . if he leaves, it will hurt but we cant pay 7 mil for him 11 mil for rak and follow that up with 5 mil for hall . that is 23 mil right off the top

 

[Sharkinva]

i like riley . he has played well for us , but we cant pay 7 mil a years for him . if he leaves, it will hurt but we cant pay 7 mil for him 11 mil for rak and follow that up with 5 mil for hall . that is 23 mil right off the top

You guys act like any of these guys are going to get straight money deals. Dallas gave Lee a deal that "averages" $7 million a year. You know what his cap number was last year?? $3 Million. We already have to replace LFB, you scream that the defense was the main reason we went 3-13. And yet you advocate bringing in two brand new ILBs because you dont think Riley is worth $7 million, yet we will have to pay some one from outside just as much. How many times do we have to make the same mistake and say, well this guy was solid, but not worth that kind of money, only to see some one else pay him and he excel. Mean while the guy we were OK with paying that kind of money tanked. You all scream we need to develop and pay our own guys, but when we are in a situation to do just that... And every one is saying he isnt worth it. I will ask the simple question... who in your esteemed opinions IS worth the money then?? Who do we bring in if Riley hits the market and some one else does pay him what he wants??

 

[skinsdad62]

You guys act like any of these guys are going to get straight money deals. Dallas gave Lee a deal that "averages" $7 million a year. You know what his cap number was last year?? $3 Million. We already have to replace LFB, you scream that the defense was the main reason we went 3-13. And yet you advocate bringing in two brand new ILBs because you dont think Riley is worth $7 million, yet we will have to pay some one from outside just as much. How many times do we have to make the same mistake and say, well this guy was solid, but not worth that kind of money, only to see some one else pay him and he excel. Mean while the guy we were OK with paying that kind of money tanked. You all scream we need to develop and pay our own guys, but when we are in a situation to do just that... And every one is saying he isnt worth it. I will ask the simple question... who in your esteemed opinions IS worth the money then?? Who do we bring in if Riley hits the market and some one else does pay him what he wants??

its a question of economics shark and not just next years but in the future . you either end up overpaying him up front or in the back end or in dead cap space

personally he might get 5 mil which i could swallow

as far as i am concerned if we gut most of the defense in the next 2-3 years i am ok with it i see rak and kerrigan as guys we can build around with amerson as a piece . we need work on the d/line with starters and depth , our secondary needs work with starters and depth and our ilbs need work with starters and depth

some answers could be on the team already , rambo thomas chase , jenkins robinson but we need a defense that can threaten top ten in the NFL

 

[skinz2winz]

There is a difference between RAK and Riley. There are not many good OLBs in FA this year, RAK is at the top of the list. Thus, based on supply and demand, he will garner a premium for which we will have to recognize. Riley is one of quite a few good/avg ILBs entering the FA market this year. Let's be real, he is no where near PB talent level. I would still welcome him back, but we don't need to over pay him, he is replaceable. The point is if he thinks he's getting Ellerbe money, he is way off base. He therefore needs to test the waters to bring him back in line with reality. Now, I don't know if these reports are true or not. But his value is in the $4-5M range.

l like this take and support the idea of not over paying for Riley. There will be options out there to replace him at far less than the money he will want. I see him as a 3-4M guy at this point as he has not taken his play to the next level yet. Chances are we go with Skov at #34 unless we garner a pick for Cousins in the 2nd round also but I see us getting no more than a 3rd for Cousins.

 

[Sharkinva]

its a question of economics shark and not just next years but in the future . you either end up overpaying him up front or in the back end or in dead cap space

personally he might get 5 mil which i could swallow

as far as i am concerned if we gut most of the defense in the next 2-3 years i am ok with it i see rak and kerrigan as guys we can build around with amerson as a piece . we need work on the d/line with starters and depth , our secondary needs work with starters and depth and our ilbs need work with starters and depth

some answers could be on the team already , rambo thomas chase , jenkins robinson but we need a defense that can threaten top ten in the NFL

Again who is determining whats over paying him? He lead the team in tackles, he is 26 years old and in the prime of his career. And sadly we wont have a three year window to rebuild this team. If this team isnt seriously contending in two years, I dont expect Dan to just sit back idle. Who are we going to bring in that is as good or better for $5 million since thats hat people seem to be comfortable with. ON a five year deal that averages $7 million a year, you could get Riley done with $10 million garunteed and a base of $1 million in year one. His cap hit for year one would be $3 million, for year two $5 million, and for year three $5 million. Years four and five might take a little reshuffle, but you build the deal so that he doesnt cost you more to cut him than keep him. Trust me, he will get at minimum $6 million a year average, and I dont think the $7 is out of the question.

 

[Lonewate44]

Again who is determining whats over paying him? He lead the team in tackles, he is 26 years old and in the prime of his career. And sadly we wont have a three year window to rebuild this team. If this team isnt seriously contending in two years, I dont expect Dan to just sit back idle. Who are we going to bring in that is as good or better for $5 million since thats hat people seem to be comfortable with. ON a five year deal that averages $7 million a year, you could get Riley done with $10 million garunteed and a base of $1 million in year one. His cap hit for year one would be $3 million, for year two $5 million, and for year three $5 million. Years four and five might take a little reshuffle, but you build the deal so that he doesnt cost you more to cut him than keep him. Trust me, he will get at minimum $6 million a year average, and I dont think the $7 is out of the question.

Agree.......and agree with some of your other previous posts..... So the guy is not a pro bowl player....big deal...We dont need a defense composed of Pro bowl players to be a good defense....We need young, hungry guys, that know their job and do it....he is young, and he makes the tackles....he will get paid by someone, and it SHOULD be us....we drafted him..developed him.... and it is his time to get some money.....7 mil a year seems hi, but if that is the market for his services, then that is his cost... We do have plnety of cap sapce, and the beausty of the cap is it allows bonus to be spread out over the loan....you see his number and think it comes right off the 30 mil.....No way......

he was calling the defense at the end of the season, and he is ready to be the lead ILB for the Redskins...he is a hi priority for a Defense that will see several new faces....For someone to replace him, would cost almost the same, and I would rather get a guy that I know can do it other then getting a guy we HOPE will do it...

 

[j_y19]

Shark, no one is advocating getting rid of Riley. Everyone that has posted here has said they would like to keep him. But if his expectations are out of whack with what the team believes his market value is significantly, then you have no choice but to let him test the waters. Is it a risk? Yes. But IMO, its not that great of a risk. Allen has done this numerous times in the last few years. Let players test the FA market when their asking price is too high. And everyone, with the exception of Alexander, has been resigned.

So let me ask you this. Is there a number that is too high? What if he says he wants an average of $9M/year? What is your stance then? Give it to him and back end load the contact of which we know we will have to renegotiate or eat in the last few years?

This whole discussion is based on a report, unverified, that says he wants an avg of $7M/year. We don't know if this is accurate. But if he does, he will not get this in FA. If he holds tight to this, then I see little risk in letting him understand that his expectations are skewed.

 

[skinsdad62]

Again who is determining whats over paying him? He lead the team in tackles, he is 26 years old and in the prime of his career. And sadly we wont have a three year window to rebuild this team. If this team isnt seriously contending in two years, I dont expect Dan to just sit back idle. Who are we going to bring in that is as good or better for $5 million since thats hat people seem to be comfortable with. ON a five year deal that averages $7 million a year, you could get Riley done with $10 million garunteed and a base of $1 million in year one. His cap hit for year one would be $3 million, for year two $5 million, and for year three $5 million. Years four and five might take a little reshuffle, but you build the deal so that he doesnt cost you more to cut him than keep him. Trust me, he will get at minimum $6 million a year average, and I dont think the $7 is out of the question.

paying him over 5 mil a season is overpaying and if he wants more then you sign a FA ILB for less and draft one . skov , borland and bulloch are in the draft as is jones

now if you can work a deal along the lines you are talking about then i am on board with it but i dont know those last 2 years are iffy

as for a 2 year rebuild dream on shark we have about 9 players who are above avg at their positions and maybe a handful more who are avg . i see the roster needing at least 30 -35 players in order to be a consistent playoff team that alone will take 2 years

 

[skinsdad62]

Fletcher's replacement likely not on Redskins' current roster | Comcast SportsNet Washington

here is a list of guys who can replace riley

add spikes and dane fletcher to the mix as well

some, if not all, would be cheaper

 

[Sharkinva]

Shark, no one is advocating getting rid of Riley. Everyone that has posted here has said they would like to keep him. But if his expectations are out of whack with what the team believes his market value is significantly, then you have no choice but to let him test the waters. Is it a risk? Yes. But IMO, its not that great of a risk. Allen has done this numerous times in the last few years. Let players test the FA market when their asking price is too high. And everyone, with the exception of Alexander, has been resigned.

So let me ask you this. Is there a number that is too high? What if he says he wants an average of $9M/year? What is your stance then? Give it to him and back end load the contact of which we know we will have to renegotiate or eat in the last few years?

This whole discussion is based on a report, unverified, that says he wants an avg of $7M/year. We don't know if this is accurate. But if he does, he will not get this in FA. If he holds tight to this, then I see little risk in letting him understand that his expectations are skewed.

$7 MIllion a year is about the going average for a player of Rileys age and performance. For $9 I tell him good luck finding that else where. But many here are saying he isnt worth the Seven. That I disagree with, and I think if we try and lowball him into $5 million a year we lose him

 

[deanpet21]

How is he worth 7? 5 is stretching it. He is an avg to good player nothing special.