How did they pick Notre Dame and Oklahoma over OSU?

[7Samurai13]

How many playoffs y'all made since we went in dry on your overrated ass?

 

[cwerph]

You're going to get him all excited.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

I think that I am an unbiased person regarding this discussion.

#1 - Losing to Purdue by such a large margin, is almost unforgivable. "Almost".

#2 - Notre Dame was the team that should have been left out. How did ND deserve in and UCF didn't? If going undefeated is what put ND in, then why not UCF? Their win over Auburn last year is far more impressive than anything ND has done recently.

#3 - Minus ND, I'd put Georgia in over Ohio St.

#4 - This year seemed to be clearly a 2 team race, and one of the minority of seasons where there are 2 clear favorites. Ohio St likely would have gotten whooped just as OU and ND were. So it really doesn't matter, cept for future comparisons of # of CFP appearances, but this year is a great example of why 8 would have been better than 4. That way Georgia, Ohio St, Washington & UCF could have been given a chance, if not to win a Title, to prove they were better or worse than each other.

 

[7Samurai13]

I think that I am an unbiased person regarding this discussion.

#1 - Losing to Purdue by such a large margin, is almost unforgivable. "Almost".

#2 - Notre Dame was the team that should have been left out. How did ND deserve in and UCF didn't? If going undefeated is what put ND in, then why not UCF? Their win over Auburn last year is far more impressive than anything ND has done recently.

#3 - Minus ND, I'd put Georgia in over Ohio St.

#4 - This year seemed to be clearly a 2 team race, and one of the minority of seasons where there are 2 clear favorites. Ohio St likely would have gotten whooped just as OU and ND were. So it really doesn't matter, cept for future comparisons of # of CFP appearances, but this year is a great example of why 8 would have been better than 4. That way Georgia, Ohio St, Washington & UCF could have been given a chance, if not to win a Title, to prove they were better or worse than each other.

Notre Dame played a significantly more difficult schedule than UCF.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Notre Dame played a significantly more difficult schedule than UCF.

That was mostly due to having Michigan on the schedule, from what I can tell. Outside of Michigan, who has been exposed now, who else was so tough? 4 loss NW?

 

[7Samurai13]

That was mostly due to having Michigan on the schedule, from what I can tell. Outside of Michigan, who has been exposed now, who else was so tough? 4 loss NW?

Who did UCF play? 6 loss Pitt? I’m sure 9 loss UNC would have helped had they not been rained out.

 

[aubie2006]

UCF never will and never should be in the playoff.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Who did UCF play? 6 loss Pitt? I’m sure 9 loss UNC would have helped had they not been rained out.

Well, they beat Auburn in last year's bowl game, yeah, the team that beat both Bama and Georgia.

They beat 10 win Cincy and 8 win Memphis(twice), and 8 win Temple, and yes, 6-6 Pitt.

So yes, it was an easier schedule, and I'm not arguing UCF should have gotten in OVER Notre Dame, I'm arguing for an 8 team tourney. I'd have ranked UCF #7 in the tournament, ND #6, OSU #5, Georgia #3, OU #4, and Wash #8. But that's just me.

 

[7Samurai13]

Well, they beat Auburn in last year's bowl game, yeah, the team that beat both Bama and Georgia.

They beat 10 win Cincy and 8 win Memphis(twice), and 8 win Temple, and yes, 6-6 Pitt.

So yes, it was an easier schedule, and I'm not arguing UCF should have gotten in OVER Notre Dame, I'm arguing for an 8 team tourney. I'd have ranked UCF #7 in the tournament, ND #6, OSU #5, Georgia #3, OU #4, and Wash #8. But that's just me.

Last year is last year and should not have any bearing on who should be going to the playoffs this season. Especially considering UCF’s QB is out for the season.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

That's what was said in 2014.

This isn't 2014.

 

[Across The Field]

If OSU is upset at Purdue something like 30-27, they're in the playoff. Instead, they shit down their leg - for the second straight year - and got what they deserved.

 

[7Samurai13]

This isn't 2014.

But Oklahoma beat Alabama in 2014 so obviously they will in 2018.

#amidoingthisright?

 

[DIKOWT DOWG]

Was it analytics?
Man those committees can find a way to screw anything up.

There is no such analysis. It's a guess until teams get on the field imo. I like the 8 team playoff format but that will mean someone will be asking why osu was in and not ucf.

Did the committess screw it up? Theres nothing in your post that makes me insist Ohio State would have faired any better.

 

[Hang_On_Sloopy08]

The days of great defense and mediocre offense don’t win you championships anymore. Always error on the side of better offenses when selecting. Both UGA and OSU would be better picks than ND this year.

 

[7Samurai13]

The days of great defense and mediocre offense don’t win you championships anymore. Always error on the side of better offenses when selecting. Both UGA and OSU would be better picks than ND this year.

Well great offenses and mediocre defenses aren’t winning much either. See Oklahoma.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

Let’s see.

tOSU lost 49-20 to Purdue. Georgia lost by 20 to LSU (and had TWO losses).

It isn’t ND’s or OU’s fault those teams eliminated themselves.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Last year is last year and should not have any bearing on who should be going to the playoffs this season. Especially considering UCF’s QB is out for the season.

No, you are right, Notre Dame's schedule was tougher this year, and normally I don't look back to a prior season, but I only do on occasion look to bowl games, only because bowl games come AFTER the field is set, so it can show us things in retrospect. My point? UCF probably should have gotten into the Top 4 last year, the Top 8 FOR SURE.

And yes, in the past, teams like Cincy and Miami of Ohio got way up in the rankings only to get trounced in their bowl games, so that could happen to UCF "this year", but I don't think it would have last year.

I think instead of fans debating like we are, just expanding to 8 teams solves the problem.

The only whiners after that won't receive any sympathy from anyone but their own team's fans.

In all of cfb history, I don't know of a season where more than 6 teams had valid arguments for being #1 or Top 2, so throw in a guaranteed spot for a non-P5 team, and the 5 P5 Conf Champs and that leaves room for the 2 highest ranked non-Conf Champs. That should be plenty.

 

[7Samurai13]

No, you are right, Notre Dame's schedule was tougher this year, and normally I don't look back to a prior season, but I only do on occasion look to bowl games, only because bowl games come AFTER the field is set, so it can show us things in retrospect. My point? UCF probably should have gotten into the Top 4 last year, the Top 8 FOR SURE.

And yes, in the past, teams like Cincy and Miami of Ohio got way up in the rankings only to get trounced in their bowl games, so that could happen to UCF "this year", but I don't think it would have last year.

I think instead of fans debating like we are, just expanding to 8 teams solves the problem.

The only whiners after that won't receive any sympathy from anyone but their own team's fans.

In all of cfb history, I don't know of a season where more than 6 teams had valid arguments for being #1 or Top 2, so throw in a guaranteed spot for a non-P5 team, and the 5 P5 Conf Champs and that leaves room for the 2 highest ranked non-Conf Champs. That should be plenty.

News flash, going to 8 doesn’t solve the problem. In the BCS people cried that 4 would solve the problem, it didn’t. The NCAA tournament went from 64 to 68 and people STILL are crying about being snubbed. If you think the lines between 4-5 are close it only gets closer with 7-12. Washington would be up in arms over how a who didn’t even win their division is going to a P5 conference champ like Washington (the fact that Washington lost three games won’t matter to those people.)

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Dear Lord...

Please allow UW to kick the living shit out of tOSU.

Amen.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

News flash, going to 8 doesn’t solve the problem. In the BCS people cried that 4 would solve the problem, it didn’t. The NCAA tournament went from 64 to 68 and people STILL are crying about being snubbed. If you think the lines between 4-5 are close it only gets closer with 7-12. Washington would be up in arms over how a who didn’t even win their division is going to a P5 conference champ like Washington (the fact that Washington lost three games won’t matter to those people.)

No, I disagree. Vehemently!!!

Sure, there is never a perfect #, because every year is different, and if you had 68 Div 1 teams and held a 64 team tourney, the 4 left out would bitch. Part of that is because FANS mostly, turn arguing about sports into a sport, and so the fan of a team with 6 trips to the CFP gains an advantage over the fan of a team with only 5 trips to the CFP, so it doesn't matter whether once getting in their team gets whooped, all that matters down the line, is that they got in, I mean, YES, winning the Title is the only truly meaningful accomplishment and something few don't acknowledge, but with so many cfb fans, and so many teams, and only 1 team that can win it all, it's natural that the rest of everyone else would develop of hierarchy of secondary accomplishments. Would you rather be an MSU fan(0 titles last 40 or so years?) or a Gopher fan(0 titles last 40+ years)??? Only Gopher fans might vote in favor of being a Minny fan, lol.

It's the same with men's bb.

But just because people will still bitch and whine, doesn't mean a certain format isn't the best format.


And btw, I was NEVER one of those who said going to 4 would solve anything. I think it's better than 2, but I've been an advocate of going to an 8 team tourney before there was even a 2 team tourney.

As a fan of the Gophers, I've spent way too much time analyzing the 1960 season, the most obvious example that I am aware of, of a season where there needed to be an 8 game tournament. So I've been an advocate of an 8 game tournament for my entire adult life.