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2015 will be known as the year the Lions almost had a signature win.
 

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Real fans don't support bad refs. Real fans want a better NFL.
Oh yeah, real fans want a better NFL, but real fans don't like fans complaining about the refs calls of a game two months ago.
 

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Oh yeah, real fans want a better NFL, but real fans don't like fans complaining about the refs calls of a game two months ago.

I expect this kind of retort by a spoiled millennium brat, not a hardened old timer.
 

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I expect this kind of retort by a spoiled millennium brat, not a hardened old timer.
LOL, I am a hardened old timer, that never complains about the refs calls. It doesn't do any good and it makes a person sound like a whiner.
 

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LOL, I am a hardened old timer, that never complains about the refs calls. It doesn't do any good and it makes a person sound like a whiner.

No, you're a traitor to your generation. Real hardened old timers don't just sit there and accept fraud. Real fans want to see the best teams, not teams that were helped by bad refs.
 

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No, you're a traitor to your generation. Real hardened old timers don't just sit there and accept fraud. Real fans want to see the best teams, not teams that were helped by bad refs.
LMFAO!!! Now it's "fraud", that's funny as hell!!! I guess you could call it a conspiracy.
 

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LMFAO!!! Now it's "fraud", that's funny as hell!!! I guess you could call it a conspiracy.

The NFL needs fixing. I love football. I don't love a system that supports bad refs. The NFL comes out and says they screwed up. Now we don't get the true best teams in the playoffs. I have a problem w that. All real fans should. If you don't, you don't truly care about the sport.
 

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2015 will be known as the year the Lions almost had a signature win.

Winning in Green Bay for the first time in 20 years was our signature win. Real NFL fans know this. Real fans are never proud of winning cheap. But most Seattle fans aren't real fans anyways, instead bandwagon riders who started following the team a few years ago.
 

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The NFL needs fixing. I love football. I don't love a system that supports bad refs. The NFL comes out and says they screwed up. Now we don't get the true best teams in the playoffs. I have a problem w that. All real fans should. If you don't, you don't truly care about the sport.
I have been watching the NFL since 1954 and I like pro football. You can complain all you want and you won't/can't fix human error. IMO, the NFL refs do a good job. Yes they make mistakes, but that can be expected.
 

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Seahawks needed help from refs to beat Lions. Real fans want to see the best teams in the post season. Not teams that needed help from the refs to get there.

2015 Seahawks *

Um, you do realize that even if you're right and the Lions should get the W in that game - Seattle is still in the playoffs and the Lions are still outside looking in, right?
 

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I'd chime in, but am unable, since Rob Base has the moral high ground. Nobody CAAAAAARRRESSSSS! as much about football as he does.
 

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Um, you do realize that even if you're right and the Lions should get the W in that game - Seattle is still in the playoffs and the Lions are still outside looking in, right?

Whoa whoa whoa... careful with all that logic and reality bullshit. You're gonna confuse @RobBase
 

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Um, you do realize that even if you're right and the Lions should get the W in that game - Seattle is still in the playoffs and the Lions are still outside looking in, right?

Yes. Not a Lion thing. Not even a Seahawk thing. NFL shitty fucking system thing. Next day apologies admitting these refs fucked up is not good enough for me. Especially after the way the lives of the replacement refs were dragged through the media mud.

Real fans want a better product. And DESERVE it.
 

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Um, you do realize that even if you're right and the Lions should get the W in that game - Seattle is still in the playoffs and the Lions are still outside looking in, right?

This. The Seahawks finished as the 6th seed 2 games ahead of Atlanta. Switch the Detroit win to a loss and Seattle finishes as the 6th seed, still ahead of Atlanta. Did the refs miss the call at the end of the Seahawks/Lions game? Yes. Would it have changed anything? No.
 

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Yes. Not a Lion thing. Not even a Seahawk thing. NFL shitty fucking system thing. Next day apologies admitting these refs fucked up is not good enough for me. Especially after the way the lives of the replacement refs were dragged through the media mud.

Real fans want a better product. And DESERVE it.

Meh. Can I retroactively get the Vinny Testarverde phantom ball TD overturned? Or the '05 Superbowl offensive PI overturned?

What? No?

Oh well, too bad for me.
 

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Seattle was robbed of a SB in Detroit. I was there. Defended you then. If you don't want the NFL to become the WWE, you'll agree with me.
 

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Seattle was robbed of a SB in Detroit. I was there. Defended you then. If you don't want the NFL to become the WWE, you'll agree with me.

Or one could be a mature adult and realize that sometimes life is wonderful, and at other times, it's not so wonderful. And you know, move on.

You and 'Q' should get together though, with the WWE comparison, you'll get along famously.
 

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Or one could be a mature adult and realize that sometimes life is wonderful, and at other times, it's not so wonderful. And you know, move on.

You and 'Q' should get together though, with the WWE comparison, you'll get along famously.

I'd rather have a legit NFL. If you don't, that's your business.
 

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Seattle was robbed of a SB in Detroit. I was there. Defended you then. If you don't want the NFL to become the WWE, you'll agree with me.
Agree with what? There were bad calls that cost you a game?

Already been pointed out that even with a W for that game, your team is still not in the playoffs and Seattle is STILL the same 6th seed. It didn't make even a single bit of difference. Real fans know this and wouldn't create drama to push an agenda that doesn't match the reality of the playoff situation.

I swear I haven't seen anyone so butt hurt over something that didn't make any damned difference in a season. The 'illegal bat' was a botched call of a dumb and obscure rule. Had he not made any contact with that ball the same end happens. This means the botched call didn't rob anyone of anything. It should have been the same result as it is. Any real fan knows this. Call it or don't call it, the end result of the season is still the same.
 

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I'd rather have a legit NFL. If you don't, that's your business.

Right, if you don't agree with your position, it's because YOU have the moral high ground.

Good luck with that philosophy.

See what your parents told you when you were four, still applies today.

"Son, hate to break it to you, but life isn't fair."

This thread is you grousing about how life ain't fair!

Noted.

Get over it.

Of course you not getting over it is your business. :)
 
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