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BUST!!!! I said this 3 weeks ago...but sense he was a 1st rd pick, he is not a bust. Guy fucking sucks!!
 

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Alex Trebek: "Slow linebackers."

Contestent: "What the Pats don't need more of."
 

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Alex Trebek: "Slow linebackers."

Contestent: "What the Pats don't need more of."

You guys need to be a little more objective. You want the Pats to be strong at all positions, a fantasy dream by all means. We are not the only team with deficiencies and weaknesses. WTF? You expect the Pats to be perfect forever. LOL, give them a break man.
 

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You guys need to be a little more objective. You want the Pats to be strong at all positions, a fantasy dream by all means. We are not the only team with deficiencies and weaknesses. WTF? You expect the Pats to be perfect forever. LOL, give them a break man.


A LB he should be able to play all three downs if he's taken with the 25th overall pick. I'll say this in Hightower's defense...he's not the only problem with the defense.
 

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A LB he should be able to play all three downs if he's taken with the 25th overall pick. I'll say this in Hightower's defense...he's not the only problem with the defense.


Hightower was not brough in to cover he like Spikes are more run stoppers. IMO if this team would switch to a 3-4 next year the front seven could be solid. Round 1 draft best DE available, Nink does well at times but we still need more pressure of the edge. Between Wilfork, Kelly and possibly Aremestead we can rotate NTs in. Put Mayo and Colling at the OLB and Hightower and Spikes as ILB. Or Mayo OLB Spike and Collins ILB collins can move and stick with TE and Hightower on the other edge. I think the make up is there it's the line up which fails.


And please get a fucking defensive coordinator.
 

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Hightower was not brough in to cover he like Spikes are more run stoppers. IMO if this team would switch to a 3-4 next year the front seven could be solid. Round 1 draft best DE available, Nink does well at times but we still need more pressure of the edge. Between Wilfork, Kelly and possibly Aremestead we can rotate NTs in. Put Mayo and Colling at the OLB and Hightower and Spikes as ILB. Or Mayo OLB Spike and Collins ILB collins can move and stick with TE and Hightower on the other edge. I think the make up is there it's the line up which fails.


And please get a fucking defensive coordinator.

I agree Hightower is a run stopper first but you should get more out of #25 overall. The Fins exploited Gregory yesterday so they need to find another safety IMO. They signed Ninkovich to a 4yr $15.4 mil deal so he's here for the long haul...maybe they like getting an avg of 1/2 sack in his best year(2012) from that spot. There's more to playing DE than pressuring the QB but I'd like to see a player that can bring more pressure who's an average run stopper than the other way around. They need a young DT that can move and pressure the middle so maybe Armstead is that player...I guees it depends on how much of his body they had to remove due to the infection he had.
 

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I agree Hightower is a run stopper first but you should get more out of #25 overall. The Fins exploited Gregory yesterday so they need to find another safety IMO. They signed Ninkovich to a 4yr $15.4 mil deal so he's here for the long haul...maybe they like getting an avg of 1/2 sack in his best year(2012) from that spot. There's more to playing DE than pressuring the QB but I'd like to see a player that can bring more pressure who's an average run stopper than the other way around. They need a young DT that can move and pressure the middle so maybe Armstead is that player...I guees it depends on how much of his body they had to remove due to the infection he had.


There is a DT at Pitt that watched this year and really liked if you get a chance look him up and take a look.
 

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There is a DT at Pitt that watched this year and really liked if you get a chance look him up and take a look.

Donald? I haven't watched college football much at all this year and even what I saw was mostly in bits and pieces. I haven't seen him but I think he's got size working against him if he measures out at 6'0 285 Lbs. I guess it depends if he plays in the Senior Bowl and how well he does.
 

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Donald? I haven't watched college football much at all this year and even what I saw was mostly in bits and pieces. I haven't seen him but I think he's got size working against him if he measures out at 6'0 285 Lbs. I guess it depends if he plays in the Senior Bowl and how well he does.


That may be him and it wouldn't be a stretch to get to 300 but size has never hurt him he is incredibly strong and quick, real quick
 

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I have actually seen mocks targeting the Pats with Louis Nix III from Notre Dame.
 

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I know that it is a little too early to be mocking but Nix would be a fine fit for this team.

With that said - this has been a particularly cruel year for this team when it comes to injuries as Briz and others have brought up.

This team will likely look to defensive tackle and tight end in this years' draft. Nix and a 2nd round tight end (Fiedorowicz) would be solid options for the Pats.

Fiedorowicz is a good in-line blocking tight end, who is a very solid receiver and guess who his positional coach is. Aaron Hernandez's brother. He is well-coached at Iowa.
 

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He's not a coverage-first LB. He's a run stopper/pass rusher/big hitter, which is a good skill set, but now they're asking him to cover quick slot receivers and receiving tight ends and he can't do it, and he never will be able to. He's a classic tweener - bigger than an LB, smaller than a DE, which they love and have gotten great success out of in the past, but he's never going to be Patrick Willis or Jerod Mayo and that's not what they drafted him for.

The game Mayo went down, I called it: Hightower was going to look exposed the rest of the year. When their LBs are all healthy, they all fill their roles really well and make up one of the best LB units in the league. As soon as you take Mayo out of it, it collapses.

Hightower could prove to be a bust, mind. I'm not saying he'll be a great LB. I'm still waiting to see him put it all together; he's had some great plays and some really bad ones. I'm just saying I wouldn't call him a bust based on this year. This year was going to be a struggle for him either way.
 

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I know that it is a little too early to be mocking but Nix would be a fine fit for this team.

With that said - this has been a particularly cruel year for this team when it comes to injuries as Briz and others have brought up.

This team will likely look to defensive tackle and tight end in this years' draft. Nix and a 2nd round tight end (Fiedorowicz) would be solid options for the Pats.

Fiedorowicz is a good in-line blocking tight end, who is a very solid receiver and guess who his positional coach is. Aaron Hernandez's brother. He is well-coached at Iowa.


I also think we need to target a Center. IMO TE should be the #1 priority a round one pick IF any of the top 3 TEs are on the board, if not get best NT/DT and then best TE. Maybe Center in third.
 

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I have actually seen mocks targeting the Pats with Louis Nix III from Notre Dame.

The problem drafting players with Nix size is if he works out well at the Combine or his Pro day he won't last.

Walterfootball already has him going to Tampa @ 9 so unless he coughs up a furball they'd have to trade up significantly to get him.
 

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I also think we need to target a Center. IMO TE should be the #1 priority a round one pick IF any of the top 3 TEs are on the board, if not get best NT/DT and then best TE. Maybe Center in third.

It's also highly probable that someone they have a very high grade on is available who isn't a top need but they think is much better than the alternatives. If a top notch safety, corner, or WR is available, and it's that or a pretty good DT or TE, I mean you have to take the top player, not just pick for needs. It's not like you're guaranteed a first year starter picking around #26 anyway, and how reliable are Talib, Dennard, Gregory, Edelman, Amendola, etc anyway?

All things being equal, they NEED a tight end, they need a DT, etc., but just because you need a player doesn't mean there'll be one worth the pick available.

How much different would this team look if they had been able to acquire Tony Gonzalez at the trade deadline, by the way?
 

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The problem drafting players with Nix size is if he works out well at the Combine or his Pro day he won't last.

Walterfootball already has him going to Tampa @ 9 so unless he coughs up a furball they'd have to trade up significantly to get him.


I saw the Rams at 12 too. Not sure why CBS has him at 29 could be the injury situation, but BB will not trade up for Nix.
 

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It's also highly probable that someone they have a very high grade on is available who isn't a top need but they think is much better than the alternatives. If a top notch safety, corner, or WR is available, and it's that or a pretty good DT or TE, I mean you have to take the top player, not just pick for needs. It's not like you're guaranteed a first year starter picking around #26 anyway, and how reliable are Talib, Dennard, Gregory, Edelman, Amendola, etc anyway?

All things being equal, they NEED a tight end, they need a DT, etc., but just because you need a player doesn't mean there'll be one worth the pick available.

How much different would this team look if they had been able to acquire Tony Gonzalez at the trade deadline, by the way?


Not sure about anyone else but if we draft another damn DB I will be frustrasted. Seems like we have taken quite a bit of them lately. And Jesus we took three WRs last year and picked up another. I say TE because when we had that two headed monster it opened things up for a lot of other players.

Of course picking up Tony would have been nice, but no one knew Gronk would get hurt again.
 
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