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I meant to say 13 years on that post, the last two teams was the Bulls and then Houston, but either way - history says it's hard to repeat - no guarantee for the Heat while the entire NBA except Heat fans is hoping for some one to beat the Heat
 

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20 years... lakers are the only team? Since 1993? You really think that? please pull up a list of teams that have done it.. there are 3 of them.

Bulls, Bulls, Lakers
 

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TURN UP THE HEAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT---ABOUT WADE AND BOSH'S--PERFORMANCE.
MY ORIGINAL PREDICTION WAS HEAT IN 6.
HOWEVER,THE HEAT WILL PREVAIL ON CLASS AND EXPERIENCE--IN GAME 7.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO END IT IN GAME 6--MORE REST.
 

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Just shows what BS it is when we hear how much tougher the top of the West is compared to the East.


Not exactly. The top 5 West teams had better records than everyone in the East with the exception of Miami. Each WC team had a winning record against the East. Only the top 3 teams in the EC had winning records against the West.

You are underestimating San Antonio if you think Indiana is the toughest opponent the Heat will face (assuming the Heat advance). San Antonio is better than Indiana. They have interior size. They are a much better perimeter shooting team. They have players that can create on the perimeter and get to the basket. They are a better defensive team than Indiana as well. In fact, San Antonio is number 1 in Def Eff this post season. They are veteran team who has been there before. They also have one of the best NBA coaches in history. It isn't gonna get any easier facing San Antonio.
 

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Bulls, Bulls, Lakers

Actually Bulls, Houston and Lakers. It was the Bulls 2nd three peat, Houston's repeat, then the Lakers three peat and again the Lakers repeat. Lakers only in the last 13 ears, then you have to go back the full 20, I started to say 15 years and typed in the 20 without checking first - lol
 

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Not exactly. The top 5 West teams had better records than everyone in the East with the exception of Miami. Each WC team had a winning record against the East. Only the top 3 teams in the EC had winning records against the West.

You are underestimating San Antonio if you think Indiana is the toughest opponent the Heat will face (assuming the Heat advance). San Antonio is better than Indiana. They have interior size. They are a much better perimeter shooting team. They have players that can create on the perimeter and get to the basket. They are a better defensive team than Indiana as well. In fact, San Antonio is number 1 in Def Eff this post season. They are veteran team who has been there before. They also have one of the best NBA coaches in history. It isn't gonna get any easier facing San Antonio.



I think the Spurs area very good team, and they do scare me.

However, I feel the 10 day layoff will essentially beat them in game 1.
If thats the case. They need towin 4/6. I don'tlike their chances of that.

Also, the Spurs are much more willing to play at a quicker paceandshoot alotof 3's which COULD be their downfall IF they are missing shots.

IF Pops decides to take that element out of his game plan, then it works against him because 3 point shots are a huge part of their game.
 

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Not exactly. The top 5 West teams had better records than everyone in the East with the exception of Miami. Each WC team had a winning record against the East. Only the top 3 teams in the EC had winning records against the West.

Only on paper, goes back to resume's vs GOAT, 2 different things.

San Antonio can be the better team but still not as tough of a matchup for the Heat.

If you rank them based on their reg season performances Spurs are definitely the 2nd best team. If you rate them on most likely to come out of the West in the playoffs then OKC was #1 before Westbrook went down.

If you rank them as most likely to beat the Heat then a healthy Bulls team, then Indy and then the Spurs and then the Grizzlies and then a healthy OKC in that order.

The Bulls and the Pacers are made for one thing, compete and beat the Heat. The spurs are built to win in the west. The 2 divisions play 2 completely different styles and are built differently.

Great scoring vs brutal defence.
 

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I think the Spurs area very good team, and they do scare me.

me too

However, I feel the 10 day layoff will essentially beat them in game 1.
If thats the case. They need towin 4/6. I don'tlike their chances of that.

That only seems to effect players who have beaches near by and lot's of hot women not wearing much clothes. I really think their layoff is an advantage where even the 6 or 4 days off will negatively effect a Heat team who has struggled to be in sync since their long layoff after the Bucks.

Also, the Spurs are much more willing to play at a quicker paceandshoot alotof 3's which COULD be their downfall IF they are missing shots.

This does make me feel better

IF Pops decides to take that element out of his game plan, then it works against him because 3 point shots are a huge part of their game.

That is our BOOGIE MAN!!!
 

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San Antonio can be the better team but still not as tough of a matchup for the Heat.

We don't really know how these two teams stack up against each other this season seeing as both teams were not at "full strength" for the two regular season games. That being said, I think they pose just as much of a challenge, if not more, for the reasons metioned.

The Bulls and the Pacers are made for one thing, compete and beat the Heat. The spurs are built to win in the west. The 2 divisions play 2 completely different styles and are built differently.

Great scoring vs brutal defence.

This notion that the two divisions play completely different styles of basketball is antiquated. This isn't the 1980s. The Spurs can play defense. They are the leaders in Def Eff during this postseason. They are more efficient on offense too compared with the Pacers.
 

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I think the Spurs area very good team, and they do scare me.

However, I feel the 10 day layoff will essentially beat them in game 1.
If thats the case. They need towin 4/6. I don'tlike their chances of that.

The long layoff could certainly hurt. There will likely be some rust. They are a veteran team though, and Pop should have them ready. You don't like the Spurs chances if they get a split in the first two game regardless of whether it's game 1 or 2?

Also, the Spurs are much more willing to play at a quicker paceandshoot alotof 3's which COULD be their downfall IF they are missing shots.

IF Pops decides to take that element out of his game plan, then it works against him because 3 point shots are a huge part of their game.

The Spurs don't play at that much higher of a pace than Indiana. For this post season, the Spurs have averaged 1.1 more possessions per game than Indiana. That's not very significant. The Spurs have shown that they can win playing either tempo.
 

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The long layoff could certainly hurt. There will likely be some rust. They are a veteran team though, and Pop should have them ready. You don't like the Spurs chances if they get a split in the first two game regardless of whether it's game 1 or 2?



The Spurs don't play at that much higher of a pace than Indiana. For this post season, the Spurs have averaged 1.1 more possessions per game than Indiana. That's not very significant. The Spurs have shown that they can win playing either tempo.


I know it makes no logical sense but I would like their chances more if they won game 1 vs game 2. Teams seem to crank it up more after a loss then a win.
Hell, IMO, the Heat havn't looked very solid for the entire playoffs so far. Milwaukee was horrible and the Bulls and Pacers have both given us fits.

At this point, I'll be relieved making the Finals. from there, I'll hope we hit some kind of groove and find a way to win.

Regardless, its fun to be playing into June again.
 

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I can tell you right now that Pops is not going to take anything out of his arsenal including the three point shot - If Tony Parker is wide open, then he is going to drill it why Heat fans weep

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We don't really know how these two teams stack up against each other this season seeing as both teams were not at "full strength" for the two regular season games. That being said, I think they pose just as much of a challenge, if not more, for the reasons metioned.

Heat won them both being with out Wade and LBJ in SA and won with the big 3 barely at home with rest-rate. I have to think Pop hid some of his game plan too.

This notion that the two divisions play completely different styles of basketball is antiquated.

maybe a little, but looking at the hollinger stats the west was a lot better on D last year than I thought.
 

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I can tell you right now that Pops is not going to take anything out of his arsenal including the three point shot - If Tony Parker is wide open, then he is going to drill it why Heat fans weep

WORD


I'll still take my chances with HCA and having James on my team. The Heat will be a solid favorite to win the series.
Law of averages says we are due to string a few good games together.

As far as weeping, that is much more reserved for your teams fan base this season. We are soon heading to our 3rd straight Finals.

Chances are in a few weeks you guys will be right back to where you started.You will be back to the Decision, fan celebebrations, collusion and asterisks on your end while we are headinbg out to a parade on our end.
 

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We were right, Stern said Birdman should of been ejected. Now, I think the rule is stupid and the nba is soft now, but if you are going to eject a player for pushing lebron, then the same should of been the same for birdman birdman.
 

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well, i know all you Heat fans have penciled yourselves into the finals and all that rubbish, but i don't think the Pacers are quite done...

just puttin' that out there...
Right CL67 I noticed that too however that stat that Hammer posted about the winner of Game 5 (Sumtin like 87%) I really can't blame them too much.

Heat fans should thank and embrace the Pacers for being such a tough opponent.
This is true, nothing like being challenged to step it up!

They just may be the toughest team we have to face in the post season.
Those Pacers are indeed a tough match-up however I also think you are vastly underestimating the Spurs team and their Coach.


They have the recipe/formula to beat the Heat. They have size. They play rugged. And most important, they learned from the Bulls to not force bad, quick shots, let alone alot of 3's which slows down the game and the Heats fast break opportunities.
Despite all of this, despite Wade being his typically injured playoff self, despite Bosh playing terrible, the Heat will still prevail. That is attributed to nothing but the greatness of James.
Nothing BUT "The greatness of LBJ"? This is one good reason why Heat fans get such a bad rap. Believe me, if your team didn't play such great defense your Heat would be in dire straights. It's been the team defense that has kept your Heat in games and LBJ taking advantage of that (That's what star NBA players do with out that team defense it really wouldn't matter how 'great' LBJ is IMO

Just shows what BS it is when we hear how much tougher the top of the West is compared to the East.
I'm guessing by top you mean the Pacers and Bulls. I really haven't heard that the TOP of the West is tougher, I have however heard that from top to bottom the West is tougher. Just sounds like a spin at work here to me. Would you like to state your source? I've never heard this to include a caveat of just the 'top' of both conferences.

We don't really know how these two teams stack up against each other this season seeing as both teams were not at "full strength" for the two regular season games. That being said, I think they pose just as much of a challenge, if not more, for the reasons metioned.

This notion that the two divisions play completely different styles of basketball is antiquated. This isn't the 1980s. The Spurs can play defense. They are the leaders in Def Eff during this postseason. They are more efficient on offense too compared with the Pacers.
:agree:

I know it makes no logical sense but I would like their chances more if they won game 1 vs game 2. Teams seem to crank it up more after a loss then a win.
Hell, IMO, the Heat havn't looked very solid for the entire playoffs so far. Milwaukee was horrible and the Bulls and Pacers have both given us fits.

At this point, I'll be relieved making the Finals. from there, I'll hope we hit some kind of groove and find a way to win.

Regardless, its fun to be playing into June again.
Where has this TurnUpTheHeat been? I remember this guy way back over on SeeBS. That was before all the BS over on that Heat haters thread that ruined you. Keep up these type of posts and you can regain respect on these boards once again.

Law of averages says we are due to string a few good games together.
Are you applying the laws of average from the regular season or the post season? I think it matters because of the level of competition game in and game out increases in the post season. If so the Spurs have a winning percentage of .857 in the post season and the Heat can do no better than .800 and are currently at .786. So law of averages says y'all get beat in the Finals. Not a good argument.


Chances are in a few weeks you guys will be right back to where you started.You will be back to the Decision, fan celebebrations, collusion and asterisks on your end while we are headinbg out to a parade on our end.
You know what they say, don't count your eggs before your chickens are hatched! We Lakers fans know this too well as our Lakers were beat by these same Pacers awhile back in the Finals and it didn't quite turn out like everyone was predicting back then.
 
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