Hall of Fame 2015 Ballot

[Voltaire26]

My Hall of Fame Ballot

1. Alan Trammell – Did everything well, no hint of steroids in the Steroid Era. Class individual. Most difficult position (SS). Robbed of the 1987 MVP. MVP of the 1984 World Series. Longest Double Play combination (along with Lou Whitaker – who should also be in the Hall)

2. Barry Bonds – MLB leader in Home Runs & Base on Balls. Most feared batter of his time, maybe of all-time. Poster boy for the Steroid Era. Batted against pitchers who were on steroids.

3. Roger Clemens – 354 Wins & 4682 Strikeouts. Poster boy for pitchers during the Steroids Era. Pitched against who were on steroids.

4. Randy Johnson – 303 Wins & 4875 Strikeouts … easy choice.

5. Pedro Martinez – 210 Wins & 100 Loses … easy choice.

6. Sammy Sosa – 609 Home Runs. Made baseball popular and fun again in 1998 after the 1994 MLB strike.

7. Mark McGwire – 583 Home Runs. Made baseball popular and fun again in 1998 after the 1994 MLB strike.

8. Tim Raines – A mini version of Rickey Henderson, but a lot more classy.


2015 should be a time of forgiveness. Baseball made huge profits from the Steroid Era and turn a blind eye to the players (which were many, if not most).

Time for forgiveness for Pete Rose and "Shoeless" Joe Jackson.

 

[hess1125]

I won't argue with you on the majority of that. And I completely understand your argument for Bonds, Sosa, McGwire and Clemens. But i'm still undecided on if I think they should be in the Hall. You're right that those guys brought a lot of attention and revenue to baseball during a time where it was falling off. I'm still on the fence about it though.

That being said, I'll back Pete Rose until the day I die. If anyone deserves a spot in the Hall it's him.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[steveringo]

Can we use this thread to post idiot voters?

Exhibit A = Jon Heyman, CBS

Hall of Fame ballot: Nine who were great (and clean) get in here - CBSSports.com

 

[calsnowskier]

Can we use this thread to post idiot voters?

Exhibit A = Jon Heyman, CBS

Hall of Fame ballot: Nine who were great (and clean) get in here - CBSSports.com

Some of his explanations are a little wonky, but his actual ballot is not THAT bad. I don't really agree with it, but outside of Mattingly, there is no one that he includes that I think is super-questionable.

 

[thedddd]

I think Smoltz should get in and so should McGriff but the later probably will get overlooked.

As for Heyman's ballot it isn't bad, I wonder how can he justifiably not put Giles in the Steroid group?

 

[steveringo]

I think Smoltz should get in and so should McGriff but the later probably will get overlooked.

As for Heyman's ballot it isn't bad, I wonder how can he justifiably not put Giles in the Steroid group?

My biggest beef was his long tirade about roid users, then he say Randy Johnson is a lock!

These people that wont vote for anyone associated with roids, but then vote for the obvoious users just because they weren't on the Mitchell Report or associated with Balco...

please...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I am not high on Trammel... I don't see why everyone wants him in so bad though... He was a Very good player but that is all... He was not a great SB guy, he was not a great power guy, he did not hit any milestones, and in his 20 seasons he played 140 or more games only 8 times(yes a couple of those misses were in the 130s)...

But I am a big Tim Raines supporter, he is the 5th best SB guy in baseball history with over 800 SBs... That alone should get him in...

I am a milestone guy, and think anyone that hits any milestone should make it, although I will be the first to admit that some milestones should be updated(HRs) My rule for a milestone is 15 years times a great season HRs=15 * 45=675, Runs=200 *15=3000, SB=15*50=750, etc...

 

[StanMarsh51]

I am not high on Trammel... I don't see why everyone wants him in so bad though... He was a Very good player but that is all... He was not a great SB guy, he was not a great power guy, he did not hit any milestones, and in his 20 seasons he played 140 or more games only 8 times(yes a couple of those misses were in the 130s)...

But I am a big Tim Raines supporter, he is the 5th best SB guy in baseball history with over 800 SBs... That alone should get him in...

I am a milestone guy, and think anyone that hits any milestone should make it, although I will be the first to admit that some milestones should be updated(HRs) My rule for a milestone is 15 years times a great season HRs=15 * 45=675, Runs=200 *15=3000, SB=15*50=750, etc...

Then again, shortstops didn't really hit like A-Rod/Nomar when Trammel played so he was always near/at the top of his position.

If he were a 1B he wouldn't be close, but being a shortstop (and a quality defensive one at that), I'd put him in.

 

[SpartyNash13]

I vote: Trammell, Smoltz, Biggio, Pedro, Raines, Piazza, Randy Johnson, Larry Walker

 

[SpartyNash13]

I am not high on Trammel... I don't see why everyone wants him in so bad though... He was a Very good player but that is all... He was not a great SB guy, he was not a great power guy, he did not hit any milestones, and in his 20 seasons he played 140 or more games only 8 times(yes a couple of those misses were in the 130s)...

But I am a big Tim Raines supporter, he is the 5th best SB guy in baseball history with over 800 SBs... That alone should get him in...

I am a milestone guy, and think anyone that hits any milestone should make it, although I will be the first to admit that some milestones should be updated(HRs) My rule for a milestone is 15 years times a great season HRs=15 * 45=675, Runs=200 *15=3000, SB=15*50=750, etc...

Compare Trammells career stats with those of Barry Larkin and Ozzie Smith, they're way too similar to say Trammell is not deserving when the other guys got in easily

 

[Mondo Jay]

I vote: Trammell, Smoltz, Biggio, Pedro, Raines, Piazza, Randy Johnson, Larry Walker

Solid, but I'm not sure about Walker. I would rather see McGriff in.

 

[thedddd]

My biggest beef was his long tirade about roid users, then he say Randy Johnson is a lock!

These people that wont vote for anyone associated with roids, but then vote for the obvoious users just because they weren't on the Mitchell Report or associated with Balco...

please...

Yeah it is too funny.

I know I will get blasted by some for this but honestly I don't care, they didn't get caught doing anything "illegal" in terms of baseball at that time. I would vote for Bonds and all of them in a heartbeat since they were great during their time.

 

[thedddd]

Compare Trammells career stats with those of Barry Larkin and Ozzie Smith, they're way too similar to say Trammell is not deserving when the other guys got in easily

And with Larkin who is to say he was "clean"? 1996 he magically hits 33 HR the same year Brady Anderson hit 50 and then both came back to reality...

 

[Mondo Jay]

Biggio, Pedro, Randy and Smoltz. Welcome to the HOF!

 

[Cyder]

So they screw Piazza again.

 

[navamind]

So they screw Piazza again.

Thanks to dumbfucks like this:

Why I'm boycotting the Hall of Fame vote

 

[Mondo Jay]

So they screw Piazza again.

Probably next year for him. 69.9% this year.

 

[RobToxin]

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Compare Trammells career stats with those of Barry Larkin and Ozzie Smith, they're way too similar to say Trammell is not deserving when the other guys got in easily

Just because the committee allowed others who don't belong(not saying anyone does not belong) doesn't mean they should now put in all players comparable to them... And I did not think Larkin Should have made it ... But larkin was a better hitter and a better base runner...

and ozzie smith made the HOF because of his defense, on Baseball reference Smith has a 43 dWar compared to Trammell's 22... We cant compare oranges and apples here...

I would not mind Trammell making it but he just would not be on my list...