Good goal?

[elocomotive]

Marty St. Louis with a cool goal in the SO tonight to secure the win against the 'Hawks. Do you think it's legal?

 

[li0lsh]

NO

 

[TheRobotDevil]

At times i'm still not sure what the nhl calls a goal the definition changes from time to time.In this case I don't think its A goal

 

[Comeds]

I say no, I think the play stopped.

Didn't St. Louis criticize Linus Omark's shootout goal earlier this season?

 

[esls79]

All that matters is what Dan Ellis has to say

 

[anderwho2513]

If you rule that as stopping the play, then what about when someone loads up a wrist shot and technically drags the puck backwards before the shot? That's a good goal.

 

[elocomotive]

I say no, I think the play stopped.

Didn't St. Louis criticize Linus Omark's shootout goal earlier this season?

Good call, Comeds. Here is St. Louis' quote...

"It's hard to be on the other end when you watch something like that. You battle hard it's tough to take. I don't know if disrespectful is the right word, but it caught us off guard and now we have to answer questions about it. He's a young kid, whatever he did, it worked. Do we need that? I don't know. It's kind of a slap in the face a little bit. Maybe it's a little too much. We battle hard tonight, 17-1 in the third, and to get beat in the shootout and to get beat with something like that it's tough to take. He did it, it worked. Some guys find a way to create these questions and the attention."

St. Louis was then asked if Omark was his teammate how he would handle the situation. Take him aside and have a conversation? "I'd probably have a little conversation. Sometimes less is more."

Sounds like Stamkos needs to sit him down and have a convo with him.

Note: No question Omark was always going forward on his goal.

 

[elocomotive]

If you rule that as stopping the play, then what about when someone loads up a wrist shot and technically drags the puck backwards before the shot? That's a good goal.

It's a good point, but I think in that instance the player is almost always going towards the goal with their body and their "momentum" is still continuing. It's a tough call though. The rule is...

The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line...

If that is the case, I think you are right in a sense. But maybe the referees are giving some allowance for how they know all shots are taken. The NHL has too many muddy rules - they really need to clean it up.

 

[puckhead]

man, that's really on the borderline for me.
I don't mind the spin-o-rama, but he kind of stopped at the end.

I would allow it, as it's against Chicago.

 

[dash]

Could you imagine if Marty St. Louis did that to Ron Hextall or Billy Smith?!? One of these days, a goalie is gonna snap.

 

[mattola]

i dont think so. he pulled it back stopping forward motion. but its a great goal.

 

[pixburgher66]

I'd say no. And it's ironic to see Marty's comments on the Omark goal, considering the does this fancy crap all the time. Come on Marty, sometimes less is more! :P

 

[The Q stache]

Not a chance is that a goal. Why dont we let them stop and deke the goalie until he passes out while we are at it. Also if we are going for entertainment lets bring in some clowns whats more entertaining than a clown, and like the shootout theyre both big jokes.

 

[mattola]

Not a chance is that a goal. Why dont we let them stop and deke the goalie until he passes out while we are at it. Also if we are going for entertainment lets bring in some clowns whats more entertaining than a clown, and like the shootout theyre both big jokes.

didnt one of them just have a presser in Phoenix?

 

[TOX1]

Could you imagine if Marty St. Louis did that to Ron Hextall or Billy Smith?!? One of these days, a goalie is gonna snap.

LOL! :biggrin1:

 

[Cricket]

Of course it was a good goal. And of course I'm going to say that.

But seriously. Stamkos did the same thing on his shot. It's true I might feel differently if things has gone the other way. But the puck doesn't pause as far as I can tell. I will admit it doesn't look like it exactly moves completely forward the whole time. But I don't see a pause there. Maybe St. Louis will learn to keep his mouth shut after this. As they say. Don't hate the player. Hate the game. :p

 

[The Q stache]

Of course it was a good goal. And of course I'm going to say that.

But seriously. Stamkos did the same thing on his shot. It's true I might feel differently if things has gone the other way. But the puck doesn't pause as far as I can tell. I will admit it doesn't look like it exactly moves completely forward the whole time. But I don't see a pause there. Maybe St. Louis will learn to keep his mouth shut after this. As they say. Don't hate the player. Hate the game. :p

Thats what im doing, I'm not angry at marty for trying it. I find it ridiculous that it is allowed. god these little things crack me up.

 

[Cricket]

Thats what im doing, I'm not angry at marty for trying it. I find it ridiculous that it is allowed. god these little things crack me up.

Fair enough. It just kind of sucks that a decent game can turn into shit the day after. On something like a rule no one is really sure about and people seemingly bend all the time. Perhaps next time they try to re-write the rules they should do a better job.

 

[puckhead]

Could you imagine if Marty St. Louis did that to Ron Hextall or Billy Smith?!? One of these days, a goalie is gonna snap.

the closest i can recall.

 

[The Q stache]

Fair enough. It just kind of sucks that a decent game can turn into shit the day after. On something like a rule no one is really sure about and people seemingly bend all the time. Perhaps next time they try to re-write the rules they should do a better job.

I just don't like the shootout in general i find it to be a sideshow.