GDT (8) - 10/28 Sharks at Red Wings - 4:30PM

[Slimpikins]

Glorious Sharks Victory!

'Night gents.

 

[MrChangoT97]

Great fucking Win!!!!! I love it.

Jumbo with a pair

 

[23sharks]

It's amazing how easily Marty Havlat takes the middle of the ice in the offensive zone

He was the best player on the ice tonight. Things have completely changed since he came back and solidified the 2nd line. The guy does it in all 3 zones. I'm not gonna bash on Heatley, but Havlat is a WAY better player....Great move...

 

[Cmon_WTF]

He was the best player on the ice tonight. Things have completely changed since he came back and solidified the 2nd line. The guy does it in all 3 zones. I'm not gonna bash on Heatley, but Havlat is a WAY better player....Great move...

I don't know about way better player but he's certainly a way better fit for how the Sharks want to play.

 

[Cbrower91]

I don't know about way better player but he's certainly light years better and a better fit for how the Sharks want to play.

Corrected to keep it real

 

[SJVP408]

Just finished the game. If Havlat can play like this on 3 of 4 nights, it changes everything. It's like his dekes are in slo mo but he gets by defenders. Clowe and Couture are going to threaten or set some career highs in goals.

You guys think Havlat can carry his own line when he plays like this? As in be the sole playmaker for his line while playing good defense too. I think it can be a possibility and if the Sharks can add another forward for him to play with, it can get the Sharks to a three line scoring team. That is if Couture/Clowe can make it happen without Havlat. What a fun game to watch.

Sharks WIN!

 

[SJVP408]

I saw Braun play a good game. He made a few solid defensive plays and I cannot recall any bad ones. He's part of this winning steak.

 

[filosofy29]

I don't know about way better player but he's certainly a way better fit for how the Sharks want to play.

I would have agreed with you 2-3 years ago Cmon. Hell, Havlat wasn't even in the same sentence as Heatley. Something happened to Heatley though. I don't know whether his lack of speed is catching up with him, his unwillingness to change his game or an undisclosed injury that's been hampering him. Whatever it is though, he's now just a PP extraordinaire. Keep in mind this guy has ALWAYS had superstar linemates (besides ATL) as well. In my humble opinion, not only is Havlat a better fit for the Sharks (and their style of play), but he's also been a better all-around player the last 2 or so years.

Since 2006:
2006-2007: 82GP - 50G - 55A - 105P
2007-2008: 71GP - 41G - 41A - 82P
2008-2009: 82GP - 39G - 33A - 72P
2009-2010: 82GP - 39G - 43A - 82P
2010-2011: 80GP - 26G - 38A - 64P

During those years, his linemates for the majority of the time have been Jason Spezza, Daniel Alfredsson, Patrick Marleau and Joe Thornton.

 

[Destroydacre]

Nice to see the Sharks win. 4 in a row in Detroit now. With the Isles and Rags up the Sharks could very well go 6-0 on this trip. But I won't get ahead of myself. Even though it's the Islanders tomorrow, the back to backs are always tough, and the Sharks had to expend quite a bit of energy to beat the Red Wings.

Also FUCK comcast. Assholes.

 

[MrFlyingV]

Nice win, but I don't think Detroit is what they used to be. Datsyuk and Zetterberg are fantastic, but other than that, alot of age here. We'll see but I think Detroit will end up middle of the pack (but still a playoff team).

Someone mentioned Havlat is a better "fit" than Heater. Maybe Heater just ain't that fit anymore and he has lost that step. I don't know.

 

[Destroydacre]

Just finished watching the highlights online. Nice to see Marleau burn White. It usually works the other way around.

 

[Cmon_WTF]

I would have agreed with you 2-3 years ago Cmon. Hell, Havlat wasn't even in the same sentence as Heatley. Something happened to Heatley though. I don't know whether his lack of speed is catching up with him, his unwillingness to change his game or an undisclosed injury that's been hampering him. Whatever it is though, he's now just a PP extraordinaire. Keep in mind this guy has ALWAYS had superstar linemates (besides ATL) as well. In my humble opinion, not only is Havlat a better fit for the Sharks (and their style of play), but he's also been a better all-around player the last 2 or so years.

Since 2006:
2006-2007: 82GP - 50G - 55A - 105P
2007-2008: 71GP - 41G - 41A - 82P
2008-2009: 82GP - 39G - 33A - 72P
2009-2010: 82GP - 39G - 43A - 82P
2010-2011: 80GP - 26G - 38A - 64P

During those years, his linemates for the majority of the time have been Jason Spezza, Daniel Alfredsson, Patrick Marleau and Joe Thornton.

I agree that Havlat has been and is the better all around player without a doubt but to say he's a far better player than Heatley is a streatch IMO.

I don't put much stock into Heatley's numbers from last year as he played a significant portion of the year with a broken hand. That's going to affect anyones ability to score goals or exicute passes. Heatley was never a good skater and has lost even more of his legs. That said he is still a very good goal scorer and a tremendously underrated playmaker. In a year where he can stay healthy would still expect him to put up 70-80 points.

To me the biggest difference between the two, and why I believe Havlat to be a better fit for the Sharks, is Heatley needs someone else to make plays for him to be fully effective where as Havlat has the ability to make the plays and carry a line by himself.

 

[filosofy29]

I agree that Havlat has been and is the better all around player without a doubt but to say he's a far better player than Heatley is a streatch IMO.

Gotcha. I agree with that 100%.

 

[Cbrower91]

I agree that Havlat has been and is the better all around player without a doubt but to say he's a far better player than Heatley is a streatch IMO.

I don't put much stock into Heatley's numbers from last year as he played a significant portion of the year with a broken hand. That's going to affect anyones ability to score goals or exicute passes. Heatley was never a good skater and has lost even more of his legs. That said he is still a very good goal scorer and a tremendously underrated playmaker. In a year where he can stay healthy would still expect him to put up 70-80 points.

To me the biggest difference between the two, and why I believe Havlat to be a better fit for the Sharks, is Heatley needs someone else to make plays for him to be fully effective where as Havlat has the ability to make the plays and carry a line by himself.

I've always known Havlat has been talented but i had no idea how much, it really shows with the talent he is surrounded with now how good he truly is. And this is just because

 

[23sharks]

Corrected to keep it real

Thanks for adding the "Light Years" part for me Kork. LOL.
I knew Havlat was good too, but watching him play, you get to appreciate him more.
Cmon, I'm just saying he does things in the defensive end and neutral zone that Heatley doesn't do. Heatley is definitely a better goal scorer, but Havlat is much better in every other facet of the game.
Filo, I think Heatley's slowed down a bit too, and the injuries haven't helped him either.