Game Review without watching

[martinez]

i see progress as improving from what we were in the past. rg3 looked better than last year. the defense looked better than last year.
progress.

 

[Sharkinva]

its not as black and white is that. we drove the ball down the field, the defense looked good. rg3 is showing progress, sorry for using that word so much.
now if the defense sucked and rg3 looked bad id be right there with u but i could see some positive things we did in that game. plus its only week one and you and gk are talking about 0-6 starts.

I saw a defense that was better than last year. A ground game that if used more often could carry the team, and a Jason Cambell performance at QB (lost of short passes, and excuses after the loss). Which is the same formula I saw eight years ago. Thus 0-6 wouldnt shock me in the least.

 

[j_y19]

And yet we lost... so no they didnt

I disagree. The offense was productive enough to win the game. We lost because of 3 plays. Blocked punt, fumble on the 4 yard line as the TE was going in to score, and a fumble on a fluke play. The entire team effort was why we lost, including the defense. They couldn't stop long drives or 3rd downs in the second half. They also couldn't get any pressure on Fitzpatrick. They also didn't have enough turnovers. Now that I think about it, the defense lost that game

 

[martinez]

we play the jags, eagles, giants, seahawks, cards. i could see 2-4. but after that its the titans, boys, vikings. all winnable but by that time in the season who knows

 

[Sharkinva]

we play the jags, eagles, giants, seahawks, cards. i could see 2-4. but after that its the titans, boys, vikings. all winnable but by that time in the season who knows

Im seeing 1-5 IF we beat the Jags. If not, 0-6 looms... but we will "progress".

 

[martinez]

and progress so much that we finish the season 10-0!

 

[Caliskinsfan]

I disagree. The offense was productive enough to win the game. We lost because of 3 plays. Blocked punt, fumble on the 4 yard line as the TE was going in to score, and a fumble on a fluke play. The entire team effort was why we lost, including the defense. They couldn't stop long drives or 3rd downs in the second half. They also couldn't get any pressure on Fitzpatrick. They also didn't have enough turnovers. Now that I think about it, the defense lost that game:gaah:

Lmao thinking you're being sarcastic here, but maybe not... I don't blame Griff for the loss, there is more than enough blame to spread around.

Actually could make this argument as legitimately as blaming Griff for this loss.

The D was awesome in the first half. Now the Rambo whiff and the inability to stop the Texans in the fourth quarter...when it mattered the most is the same exact complaint I'm hearing about Griff NOT doing enough to win. Same can be said for the D.

Team loss, in all phases of the game. You don't win when you have TOs, STs gaffes and score 6 points.

 

[Sharkinva]

and progress so much that we finish the season 10-0!

Not with our offense,

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Im seeing 1-5 IF we beat the Jags. If not, 0-6 looms... but we will "progress".

Shark, if we win 6games this year, the result is 100% improvement over last year. That is progress by any persons measure. Not saying that's what I want but that's why I expected 6 wins to be a more realistic goal for this season. Could we do much better? Hell yes, if this O clicks. Time will tell. I choose patience, given a new coach, scheme, WR corps, depth issues due to the cap penalty and a returning from major injury QB.

 

[skinsdad62]

Shark, if we win 6games this year, the result is 100% improvement over last year. That is progress by any persons measure. Not saying that's what I want but that's why I expected 6 wins to be a more realistic goal for this season. Could we do much better? Hell yes, if this O clicks. Time will tell. I choose patience, given a new coach, scheme, WR corps, depth issues due to the cap penalty and a returning from major injury QB.

shark isnt interested in being fair at all . RG3 at this point in time is avg . why ? he has had setbacks . geez the guy is beginning year 3 and he isnt the next coming

sometimes its like debating a teenager . if your expectations were a playoff team with all this turnover then quite frankly you were kidding yourself

my advice , get over the price we paid for him and deal with what we have at this point in time

i cant say Rg3 is a franchise qb yet or if he ever will be . what i can say is the jury is still out if he can be a viable qb for the future .

at the end of this season if i feel he isnt going to be the guy i will go to what i said about JC . fix the LOS , let RG3 or KC take the ass whipping every sunday until we draft a new guy and then you can distort that position for 3 years

your life will suck until you get the simple point . we have been last 5 of 6 years . gruden hasnt even seen what he needs yet . we are REBUILDING YET AGAIN SHARK . no matter how much you hate the trade that is where we are at .

stop crying over what is done and deal with what we have now

if we go from 3 to 6 0r 5 0r 4 wins it will be an improvement and then we can draft what we need

RG3 is here , he will start until its proven he cant whether you have super mystic powers over everyone else who says its too early to tell

i say stop bashing the guy every 5 seconds and support him . look for some good like most everyone else .

he took responsibility for the loss and even said "i " instead of "we" and you cant give him an inch for that change

 

[martinez]

cali and skinsdad, where were you an hour ago when i needed you! lol. finally some people that make sense. i get it shark, your frustrated with the loss but your not being reasonable right now.

 

[Stymietee]

He did make adjustments, the first, he asked Chester to engage the man in front of him, to which Chester replied, "but coach I'm already married!"

The second he asked Polumbus to simply open his eyes in order to see the oncoming pass rushers, to which Polumbus replied, "Shit no! Did you see the size of that Mu-a-fuker?"

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

shark isnt interested in being fair at all . RG3 at this point in time is avg . why ? he has had setbacks . geez the guy is beginning year 3 and he isnt the next coming

sometimes its like debating a teenager . if your expectations were a playoff team with all this turnover then quite frankly you were kidding yourself

my advice , get over the price we paid for him and deal with what we have at this point in time

i cant say Rg3 is a franchise qb yet or if he ever will be . what i can say is the jury is still out if he can be a viable qb for the future .

at the end of this season if i feel he isnt going to be the guy i will go to what i said about JC . fix the LOS , let RG3 or KC take the ass whipping every sunday until we draft a new guy and then you can distort that position for 3 years

your life will suck until you get the simple point . we have been last 5 of 6 years . gruden hasnt even seen what he needs yet . we are REBUILDING YET AGAIN SHARK . no matter how much you hate the trade that is where we are at .

stop crying over what is done and deal with what we have now

if we go from 3 to 6 0r 5 0r 4 wins it will be an improvement and then we can draft what we need

RG3 is here , he will start until its proven he cant whether you have super mystic powers over everyone else who says its too early to tell

i say stop bashing the guy every 5 seconds and support him . look for some good like most everyone else .

he took responsibility for the loss and even said "i " instead of "we" and you cant give him an inch for that change

Great post Dad, I can see you are the voice of reason here.

Look I understand Shark's frustration. We all feel it. And he's right, we seem to be constantly rebuilding and 6 wins after 3 is not progression, it's yet another lost season. We all understand this and we are all sick and tired of the losing

But you are right, Shark needs to put the trade for Griffin to bed. Enough of the whining already. We have a QB who still has question marks but has shown that he certainly has the tools to be a good QB in the league. That was never the case with Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Mark Brunell or any other QB we've trotted out there over the last 25 years. He's in only his 3rd year, to bail on the guy at this point in time and constantly rag on his shortcomings is BS.

Maybe asking for him to throw support for the guy is asking too much but stop with the constant bashing already. We've got a lot of good parts here but the weaknesses on the OL and the secondary is too much to overcome this season. The team is still digging itself out from the cap penalty, Hell we've still not recovered from the death of Sean Taylor.

 

[j_y19]

Lmao thinking you're being sarcastic here, but maybe not... I don't blame Griff for the loss, there is more than enough blame to spread around.

Actually could make this argument as legitimately as blaming Griff for this loss.

The D was awesome in the first half. Now the Rambo whiff and the inability to stop the Texans in the fourth quarter...when it mattered the most is the same exact complaint I'm hearing about Griff NOT doing enough to win. Same can be said for the D.

Team loss, in all phases of the game. You don't win when you have TOs, STs gaffes and score 6 points.

I was being sarcastic.......to put the blame on any one facet of the team is ridiculous. I get the feeling some on here would rather see us lose and one person be blamed just so they can say I told you so. The defense did some things really well, but also didn't do some things so well, as I pointed out. These things they didn't do well contributed to the loss as much as anything the offense did or did not do.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I was being sarcastic.......to put the blame on any one facet of the team is ridiculous. I get the feeling some on here would rather see us lose and one person be blamed just so they can say I told you so. The defense did some things really well, but also didn't do some things so well, as I pointed out. These things they didn't do well contributed to the loss as much as anything the offense did or did not do.

Thank you! I have said it numerous times - let me be 100% wrong if it means that the Redskins win the majority of their games. I truly believe that some folks (who are Redskins fans) here value their opinions much more than the Washington Redskins. Pretty lame.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I'll repeat my position from before the Houston game. You can have all the weapons in the league but without pass protection it means nothing. Fans frustrated at the dink and dunk simply have to realize that had they tried DJax deep Griff would have been killed long before he could have gotten the pass off. Until that changes back off the QB.

 

[gkekoa]

its not as black and white is that. we drove the ball down the field, the defense looked good. rg3 is showing progress, sorry for using that word so much.
now if the defense sucked and rg3 looked bad id be right there with u but i could see some positive things we did in that game. plus its only week one and you and gk are talking about 0-6 starts.

Did RG3 show progress? He wasn't responsible for any of the hits he took?

The defense did more than enough to win this game. RG3 and the offense is where the problem was...the offense extends to the coach.

I disagree. The offense was productive enough to win the game. We lost because of 3 plays. Blocked punt, fumble on the 4 yard line as the TE was going in to score, and a fumble on a fluke play. The entire team effort was why we lost, including the defense. They couldn't stop long drives or 3rd downs in the second half. They also couldn't get any pressure on Fitzpatrick. They also didn't have enough turnovers. Now that I think about it, the defense lost that game

The offense was not productive enough to win the game...they produced 6 points...6 freaking points.

So the defense only gives up 10 points and they share in the blame for losing? WTF ever. How many turnovers is enough...they forced one and they held the opposing team to 10 points. I am pretty sure effectiveness is measured in scoring.

The blocked punt for a TD stemmed from poor offense too...that's why it was returned only 5 yards.

 

[gkekoa]

Lmao thinking you're being sarcastic here, but maybe not... I don't blame Griff for the loss, there is more than enough blame to spread around.

Actually could make this argument as legitimately as blaming Griff for this loss.

The D was awesome in the first half. Now the Rambo whiff and the inability to stop the Texans in the fourth quarter...when it mattered the most is the same exact complaint I'm hearing about Griff NOT doing enough to win. Same can be said for the D.

Team loss, in all phases of the game. You don't win when you have TOs, STs gaffes and score 6 points.

There is blame to spread around but RG3 is the leader of an offense that scored 6 points. 6 points. He got everything he wanted this offseason but didn't grow any himself.

It matters no more in the fourth quarter than it does the first quarter. That is BS. 6 points scored...the defense deserves ZERO blame because they only allowed 10 points.

 

[gkekoa]

Shark, if we win 6games this year, the result is 100% improvement over last year. That is progress by any persons measure. Not saying that's what I want but that's why I expected 6 wins to be a more realistic goal for this season. Could we do much better? Hell yes, if this O clicks. Time will tell. I choose patience, given a new coach, scheme, WR corps, depth issues due to the cap penalty and a returning from major injury QB.

If we win 6 games this season, it is not a 100% improvement. It is actually an unmitigated disaster. We have a hyped QB going into year three where Andrew Luck (overrated) has been to the playoffs twice and Tannehill gets no love after beating NE. RG3 at this moment in the 4th best QB in his draft class.

How long does RG3 get to use the injury as an excuse?

He has two WRs that combined for over 2500 yards receiving last season.

He has pro-bowlers at RB and OT as well.

 

[gkekoa]

shark isnt interested in being fair at all . RG3 at this point in time is avg . why ? he has had setbacks . geez the guy is beginning year 3 and he isnt the next coming

sometimes its like debating a teenager . if your expectations were a playoff team with all this turnover then quite frankly you were kidding yourself

my advice , get over the price we paid for him and deal with what we have at this point in time

i cant say Rg3 is a franchise qb yet or if he ever will be . what i can say is the jury is still out if he can be a viable qb for the future .

at the end of this season if i feel he isnt going to be the guy i will go to what i said about JC . fix the LOS , let RG3 or KC take the ass whipping every sunday until we draft a new guy and then you can distort that position for 3 years

your life will suck until you get the simple point . we have been last 5 of 6 years . gruden hasnt even seen what he needs yet . we are REBUILDING YET AGAIN SHARK . no matter how much you hate the trade that is where we are at .

stop crying over what is done and deal with what we have now

if we go from 3 to 6 0r 5 0r 4 wins it will be an improvement and then we can draft what we need

RG3 is here , he will start until its proven he cant whether you have super mystic powers over everyone else who says its too early to tell

i say stop bashing the guy every 5 seconds and support him . look for some good like most everyone else .

he took responsibility for the loss and even said "i " instead of "we" and you cant give him an inch for that change

You wanted to give JC ten years before you gave up on him too. You see no fault in our players DAD and consider any criticism unwarranted.

RG3 isn't average at this time...he is below average. He is the 4th best QB in his draft class.

Good is measured in success. RG3 was extremely successful year one and has been a disaster since. He acts like a baby and gets his way. Now that he has his way, he still won't be happy.

I don't care what people say in interviews because they have PR people teaching them what to say. Words aren't who you are...actions are.

We aren't wishing bad on RG3...we just don't believe he is what you guys hope he is.