Franchise bests/worsts: San Francisco Giants

[Mays-Fan]

Nice article. Lots of memories, good and bad.

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[Mays-Fan]

Would like to have seen "One Flap Down" against Bob Gibson.

 

[tzill]

Would like to have seen "One Flap Down" against Bob Gibson.

For me, Bob Gibson was the greatest pitcher ever.

That said, I'd love to see Gibby try to intimidate in the current environment like he did in the 60s...he'd pitch 15 games a year and spend the rest of the time on suspension.

 

[Mays-Fan]

For me, Bob Gibson was the greatest pitcher ever.

That said, I'd love to see Gibby try to intimidate in the current environment like he did in the 60s...he'd pitch 15 games a year and spend the rest of the time on suspension.

True dat. Though I suspect he would be smart enough to adjust. But I agree that in his prime, if I had to win a one game series, I'd want him to start.

 

[MarcoPolo]

For me, Bob Gibson was the greatest pitcher ever.

That said, I'd love to see Gibby try to intimidate in the current environment like he did in the 60s...he'd pitch 15 games a year and spend the rest of the time on suspension.

Sorry, Juan Marichal (during the same period, more or less).

 

[Mays-Fan]

Sorry, Juan Marichal (during the same period, more or less).

Juan, for the most part, never pitched in as big a game as Gibson, or certainly not as many times.

I'd put either Gibson or Koufax ahead of Marichal to win one game.

 

[calsnowskier]

Juan, for the most part, never pitched in as big a game as Gibson, or certainly not as many times.

I'd put either Gibson or Koufax ahead of Marichal to win one game.

The problem with Koufax is that his "elite window" was soooo small. It really is hard to rate someone with his career arc like that. Why not point to Johnson or Martinez? Heck, or Verlander? Or Lincecum? Verlander and Lincecum's windows were minuscule, but compared to other greats, so was Koufax's.

 

[Mays-Fan]

The problem with Koufax is that his "elite window" was soooo small. It really is hard to rate someone with his career arc like that. Why not point to Johnson or Martinez? Heck, or Verlander? Or Lincecum? Verlander and Lincecum's windows were minuscule, but compared to other greats, so was Koufax's.

For me, and this is not a good answer to your question, is that Koufax hit his prime right when I first started getting into ML Baseball as a kid. I was 6 during the 1963 season when I first started watching games on TV and following it in the newspaper. So Koufax's 1963-1966 run seemed like an eternity to me back then. Four yours was almost half my life. Now, four years is a blink, a flash.

 

[tzill]

Juan, for the most part, never pitched in as big a game as Gibson, or certainly not as many times.

I'd put either Gibson or Koufax ahead of Marichal to win one game.

Any of the three would be a great choice. As would PMart, Kershaw, Lefty Grove, Walter Johnson, Hoyt Willhelm, Clemens, Mordacai Brown, Cy Young, Randy Johnson, Christy Matthewson, Whitey Ford. Even Maddux and Waino.

For me, it's Gibson. For others, there are arguments to be made.

 

[tzill]

For me, and this is not a good answer to your question, is that Koufax hit his prime right when I first started getting into ML Baseball as a kid. I was 6 during the 1963 season when I first started watching games on TV and following it in the newspaper. So Koufax's 1963-1966 run seemed like an eternity to me back then. Four yours was almost half my life. Now, four years is a blink, a flash.

Great point. For me, it was my Zedi, who saw Ruth play, say that the best player he ever saw (he started following baseball in 1915) was Mays and the best pitcher he ever saw was Gibby.

But, your mileage may vary.

 

[Mays-Fan]

Great point. For me, it was my Zedi, who saw Ruth play, say that the best player he ever saw (he started following baseball in 1915) was Mays and the best pitcher he ever saw was Gibby.

But, your mileage may vary.

It's ideas like this that make me love the movie Field of Dreams. Esp the soliloquy that JEJ delivers that it is baseball that marks the time. The intergenerational love of the game makes baseball such apart of the fabric of our culture.

In second grade, I was still a good student, and always won the class spelling bees and math flash card races. Never got an arithmetic problem wrong. One day, I had finished my arithmetic problems and was just sitting there looking out the window. The teacher, Mrs. Betterton, asked me to get up and started walking me to the back of the room. I was terrified - what had I done wrong? She sat me down in front of the radio, and turned on game 2 of the 1963 World Series. Just me, and I sat and listened on a bright fall day as Johnny Podres stifled the Yankees, and the Dodgers won 4-1. I was too naive and stupid and dumbfounded to know how to thank her.

 

[Band of Brothers]

Gibson is my favorite. Back in the day he was the dude. Bum has a chance to be that too. Gibson would come right at you and if he hit you...you should of not dug in so deep. One of my favorite scenes in Field of Dreams is when the kid almost takes one off the noggin and asks for a warning. The ump replies "Watch out you don't get killed."My favorite line in the movie. Good stuff.

 

[Montalban]

Would like to have seen "One Flap Down" against Bob Gibson.

Leonard was a punk. I remember when Dan Gladden knocked him into next week in the dugout once when Leonard tried to pull the "angry black man" routine on him.

 

[Montalban]

For me, Bob Gibson was the greatest pitcher ever.

That said, I'd love to see Gibby try to intimidate in the current environment like he did in the 60s...he'd pitch 15 games a year and spend the rest of the time on suspension.

LOL!