FOX is talking about Belichek being the best in history

[GNG]

A greater physicist? Yes. A greater mind? Maybe, maybe not.

You cleary failed comprehension of the comment.

You're being shot down, maybe Rex can come here and bail you out.

 

[NEPatsfan]

You're being shot down, maybe Rex can come here and bail you out.

Shot down?

 

[GNG]

So todays teams/schemes aren't more advanced than those of days past?

That has nothing to do with being a great coach.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

So what in my comments do you see as the bias?

Really? The fact that you don't see it practically proves my point..

 

[GNG]

He took over a team, that was absolute horseshit with Starr at QB for 2 years, and they immediately started winning. Then when he stepped down the Pack had its 1st losing season since.... you guessed it, the year before Lombardi took over. But it was all Starr. Makes complete sense.

Yes Lombardi was a great coach and Starr is a HOF QB. They were both great.

 

[Rex Racer]

He took over a team, that was absolute horseshit with Starr at QB for 2 years, and they immediately started winning. Then when he stepped down the Pack had its 1st losing season since.... you guessed it, the year before Lombardi took over. But it was all Starr. Makes complete sense.

Show me where I said it was "all Starr" and I'll give you a cookie.


Prove to me that Lombardi won a Championship without Bart Starr and I'll give you two.

 

[NEPatsfan]

That has nothing to do with being a great coach.

I never said it did. I stated that he would be a bit lost now because he comes from a different time. In fact I specifically asked you if your argument was in reference to their IQ or to their knowledge.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Really? The fact that you don't see it practically proves my point..

And you still can't list them/it?

 

[Wazmankg]

I haven't looked, what was the typical number of passing yards thrown for the top tier QB's of that time during a season?

A lot more than Starr. He was never higher than 8th in passing yardage and that was in a 14 team league. Not necessarily a knock, he just wasn't asked to be that. He did what was called for, which was mostly a lot of handing off to Hornung and Taylor. He was efficient.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

There is no point. Just to put this stupidity to rest I will say:

"No bias on your part".

 

[NEPatsfan]

There is no point. Just to put this stupidity to rest I will say:

"No bias on your part".

So in this discussion, what is the bias?

You seem to be unable to point it out. I'm starting to think you may need to look in the mirror to find it.

 

[Wazmankg]

In 1965 4 guys threw for more than 2,500 yards. In 66 it was 7 guys. 1967, even with lower numbers he was still top 10.

There were only 14 teams. He never ranked higher that 8.

 

[NEPatsfan]

There were only 14 teams. He never ranked higher that 8.

But to be fair, it also looks like it wasn't a passing era.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

So in this discussion, what is the bias?

You seem to be unable to point it out. I'm starting to think you may need to look in the mirror to find it.

That's part of the problem.

 

[NEPatsfan]

That's part of the problem.

So you still can't point to the bias, huh?

 

[dredinis21]

But to be fair, it also looks like it wasn't a passing era.

So if you are admitting it wasn't a passing era, why the boner about Lombardi having Starr at QB? Couldn't one make a counterpoint that because today's league is a passing league and BB has never won without Brady, that Brady has MUCH more to do with BB SB wins then Starr ever had for Lombardi's?

 

[Scooby-Doo]

So you still can't point to the bias, huh?

No. You got me. You're completely rationale.

 

[NEPatsfan]

No. You got me. You're completely rationale.

No, go right ahead and point out the bias you were speaking about.

 

[Wazmankg]

I don't think so, since todays coach would be coming from all the strategy advancements that have occurred.

So what is this, the "time machine" argument ? If BB went back to 1960 he'd be great because he'd be versed in all of the advances in the game that happened since 1960 ?? lol Yeah and if I could go back 45 years knowing what I know now I'd go all in on Walmart and be a gazillionaire today !!

 

[Scooby-Doo]

No, go right ahead and point out the bias you were speaking about.

Relax bro. Your gonna hurt yourself.