Football Outsiders projections: Mariota elite, Winston bust

[BurrowDeep2Chase]

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Film Room: Marcus Mariota

 

[kramer1]

Mariota has gotten worse each game. If only he could play the Bucs every week....

 

[JBUCK66]

He's good. Maybe Winston is too. You dummies

 

[kramer1]

He stinks to high heaven right now.

 

[Tubbs1518]

He stinks to high heaven right now.

He was hurt yesterday. Took a real cheap shot to the knee.

 

[cincygrad]

Jameis Winston is the offensive rookie of the month

The draft bust was the offensive rookie of the month.

 

[futballiscool]

They both look like Franchise QBs. TB and Tennessee picked the right year to suck

 

[Gypsumstack]

Jameis Winston is the offensive rookie of the month

The draft bust was the offensive rookie of the month.

That doesn't mean anything. RGIII won rookie of the year and I bet all but the most delusional Redskins fan wishes they would have never drafted him.

I'm not saying Winston will or won't be a bust, just that early success doesn't really mean a whole lot.

 

[futballiscool]

That doesn't mean anything. RGIII won rookie of the year and I bet all but the most delusional Redskins fan wishes they would have never drafted him.

I'm not saying Winston will or won't be a bust, just that early success doesn't really mean a whole lot.

They did a lot of gimmicky stuff with RGIII that got him injured and was figured out by the league quickly. With Winston, he's the prototypical pocket QB playing at a high level as a rookie. I think his ceiling is Roethlisberger and floor is Kerry Collins. I don't know quite how good he is yet but I feel confident he's a legitimate starting QB for the next 10 yrs barring injury

 

[cdumler7]

That doesn't mean anything. RGIII won rookie of the year and I bet all but the most delusional Redskins fan wishes they would have never drafted him.

I'm not saying Winston will or won't be a bust, just that early success doesn't really mean a whole lot.

I think the other part of this is to understand that RGIII set them back as a franchise more than any other player because they had to trade up and get him. The Bucs and Titans didn't have to do such a thing so they don't lose as much if these guys bust. I would say that is why RGIII so far has been the worst bust of any rookie in NFL history because of what his team had to give up on top of him not being that great of a player.

 

[BurrowDeep2Chase]

Jameis Winston is the offensive rookie of the month

The draft bust was the offensive rookie of the month.

LOL take away the game against the pitiful Eagles and he was 77 for 140, 55 Comp %, 933 Yards, 6.66 YPA and threw only 2 TDs with 3 interceptions over 4 games. He had one hell of a week, but month???? There must have been slim pickings from the rookie class.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I think the other part of this is to understand that RGIII set them back as a franchise more than any other player because they had to trade up and get him. The Bucs and Titans didn't have to do such a thing so they don't lose as much if these guys bust. I would say that is why RGIII so far has been the worst bust of any rookie in NFL history because of what his team had to give up on top of him not being that great of a player.

Ricky Williams might be a threat there.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I still think 3 1st round picks are greater than a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th. But yeah, I would have to say they are pretty close to one another. Hershal Walker used to be up there.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I still think 3 1st round picks are greater than a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th. But yeah, I would have to say they are pretty close to one another. Hershal Walker used to be up there.

3 1sts?

ok, that's bad.

 

[cincygrad]

LOL take away the game against the pitiful Eagles and he was 77 for 140, 55 Comp %, 933 Yards, 6.66 YPA and threw only 2 TDs with 3 interceptions over 4 games. He had one hell of a week, but month???? There must have been slim pickings from the rookie class.

Regardless of the award, Winston and Mariota have similar statistics, and Winston's team is putting up some wins. At this point, both offer a lot of promise and both were worth the pick. The idea that Winston will bust is looking less and less likely.

 

[kramer1]

Mariota is a bum.

 

[JBUCK66]

He'll be great! Tenn has no supporting cast

 

[cincygrad]

Barnwell: Jameis Winston vs. Marcus Mariota so far