:::Flyers Cap Central 2012:::

[flyersfan4706]

I am on the Suter train for now.

As far as 3rd pairing goes I would like Scott Hannan. He got some mixed reviews on the general board, but I think he is a solid 3rd pair guy. Made only 1m with the Flames this year, so he will be pretty cheap.

 

[raptorlife4]

trade JVR for Shenn

We get our D depth and save a bit of money

 

[lasgop8]

trade JVR for Shenn

We get our D depth and save a bit of money

Were still losing Carle and kubina so we are going to need just more then schenn

 

[mall3013]

Were still losing Carle and kubina so we are going to need just more then schenn

Schenn and Suter will both be Flyers before the start of training camp. Bet on it!

 

[lasgop8]

Schenn and Suter will both be Flyers before the start of training camp. Bet on it!

I am going to church to pray for it.

 

[awaz]

Schenn and Suter will both be Flyers before the start of training camp. Bet on it!

that would be insanely awesome.

jvr's 4.25 + 3.95 space + 4.9 pronger = 13.1

suter 7 + schenn 3.6 = 10.6

please do.

ps. voracek that means you have to sign for 2.5. you're cool w/ that right?

 

[mall3013]

that would be insanely awesome.

jvr's 4.25 + 3.95 space + 4.9 pronger = 13.1

suter 7 + schenn 3.6 = 10.6

please do.

ps. voracek that means you have to sign for 2.5. you're cool w/ that right?

Take off Shitty S well. That's another million plus?

 

[lasgop8]

Take off Shitty S well. That's another million plus?

Dont we get rid Lappy and Betts money also?

 

[mall3013]

Awaz, if Homer wants both, I'm very sure he can make it work w/ cap assuming Burke still wants to deal Schenn and Suter would want to play in Philly. If Suter wants to get a lot of exposure etc. Philly is a great place for him. If not, then he can go fuck himself.

 

[mall3013]

Dont we get rid Lappy and Betts money also?

I forgot about these guys. Yes!

 

[mall3013]

Keep in mind gents, if we really want to sway Suter here, be prepared for another contract that will have the initials NTC or NMC, can you handle this?

 

[awaz]

Take off Shitty S well. That's another million plus?

good point. maybe next year is the year they finally waive shelley

Dont we get rid Lappy and Betts money also?

didn't include them in the initial add up.. they're both FA's this year

same as last year, only added up the contracts on the first post, rather than subtract the salaries that come off from their current payroll

 

[awaz]

Keep in mind gents, if we really want to sway Suter here, be prepared for another contract that will have the initials NTC or NMC, can you handle this?

if suter plays good hockey, yes.

but i dont like em.. more importantly though, i dont want a 10 yr contract

 

[flyersfan4706]

For reference purposes...

Lidstrom, Nicklas » D DET 42 $6,200,000 2012 (UFA)
Rozsival, Michal » D PHO 33 $5,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Wideman, Dennis » D WAS 29 $3,937,500 2012 (UFA)
Kubina, Pavel » D PHI 35 $3,850,000 2012 (UFA)
Spacek, Jaroslav » D CAR 38 $3,833,333 2012 (UFA)
Stuart, Brad » D DET 32 $3,750,000 2012 (UFA)
Kuba, Filip » D OTT 35 $3,700,000 2012 (UFA)
Jackman, Barret » D STL 31 $3,625,000 2012 (UFA)
Sarich, Cory » D CGY 33 $3,600,000 2012 (UFA)
Oduya, Johnny » D CHI 30 $3,500,000 2012 (UFA)
Suter, Ryan » D NAS 27 $3,500,000 2012 (UFA)
Finger, Jeff » D TOR 32 $3,500,000 2012 (UFA)
Carle, Matt » D PHI 27 $3,437,500 2012 (UFA)
Allen, Bryan » D CAR 31 $2,900,000 2012 (UFA)
Salvador, Bryce » D NJD 36 $2,900,000 2012 (UFA)
Eaton, Mark » D NYI 35 $2,500,000 2012 (UFA)
Gill, Hal » D NAS 37 $2,250,000 2012 (UFA)
Corvo, Joe » D BOS 34 $2,250,000 2012 (UFA)
Martinek, Radek » D CLB 35 $2,200,000 2012 (UFA)
Colaiacovo, Carlo » D STL 29 $2,125,000 2012 (UFA)
Morrisonn, Shaone » D BUF 29 $2,075,000 2012 (UFA)
Salo, Sami » D VAN 37 $2,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Aucoin, Adrian » D PHO 38 $2,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Zanon, Greg » D BOS 31 $1,933,333 2012 (UFA)
Foster, Kurtis » D MIN 30 $1,800,000 2012 (UFA)
Campoli, Chris » D MTL 27 $1,750,000 2012 (UFA)
Sauer, Kurt » D PHO 31 $1,750,000 2012 (UFA)
Souray, Sheldon » D DAL 35 $1,650,000 2012 (UFA)
Jurcina, Milan » D NYI 28 $1,600,000 2012 (UFA)
Staios, Steve » D NYI 38 $1,600,000 2012 (UFA)
Hunwick, Matt » D COL 26 $1,550,000 2012 (UFA)
Clark, Brett » D TBL 35 $1,500,000 2012 (UFA)
Bouillon, Francis » D NAS 36 $1,350,000 2012 (UFA)
Jones, Randy » D WIN 30 $1,150,000 2012 (UFA)
O'Brien, Shane » D COL 28 $1,100,000 2012 (UFA)
Commodore, Mike » D TBL 32 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Lukowich, Brad » D DAL 35 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Huskins, Kent » D STL 33 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Hannan, Scott » D CGY 33 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Gilroy, Matt » D OTT 27 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Lundin, Mike » D MIN 27 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
Vandermeer, Jim » D SAN 32 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
White, Colin » D SAN 34 $1,000,000 2012 (UFA)
O'Donnell, Sean » D CHI 40 $850,000 2012 (UFA)
Zubarev, Andrei » D WIN 25 $825,000 2012 (UFA)
Eminger, Steve » D NYR 28 $800,000 2012 (UFA)
Mottau, Mike » D BOS 34 $800,000 2012 (UFA)
Rome, Aaron » D VAN 28 $750,000 2012 (UFA)
Lepisto, Sami » D CHI 27 $750,000 2012 (UFA)
Brookbank, Sheldon » D ANA 31 $750,000 2012 (UFA)
Chorney, Taylor » D EDM 25 $735,000 2012 (UFA)
Arsene, Dean » D PHO 31 $725,000 2012 (UFA)
Lebda, Brett » D CLB 30 $700,000 2012 (UFA)
Sulzer, Alexander » D BUF 27 $700,000 2012 (UFA)
Meech, Derek » D WIN 28 $700,000 2012 (UFA)
Carkner, Matt » D OTT 31 $700,000 2012 (UFA)
Garrison, Jason » D FLA 27 $675,000 2012 (UFA)
Holden, Nick » D CLB 24 $675,000 2012 (UFA)
Woywitka, Jeff » D NYR 28 $650,000 2012 (UFA)
Sloan, Tyler » D NAS 31 $650,000 2012 (UFA)
Reese, Dylan » D NYI 27 $635,250 2012 (UFA)
Mullen, Patrick » D LAK 26 $632,500 2012 (UFA)
Henry, Jordan » D CGY 26 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
McKelvie, Zach » D BOS 27 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Smaby, Matt » D ANA 27 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Bickel, Stu » D NYR 25 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Roy, Mathieu » D CAR 28 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Lashoff, Matt » D TOR 25 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Oystrick, Nathan » D PHO 29 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Exelby, Garnet » D DET 30 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Stafford, Garrett » D MTL 32 $600,000 2012 (UFA)
Fortunus, Maxime » D DAL 28 $587,500 2012 (UFA)
Stoner, Clayton » D MIN 27 $550,000 2012 (UFA)
Taormina, Matt » D NJD 25 $550,000 2012 (UFA)
Johnson, Aaron » D CLB 29 $550,000 2012 (UFA)
Jackson, Scott » D TBL 25 $550,000 2012 (UFA)
Harrold, Peter » D NJD 28 $550,000 2012 (UFA)
Callahan, Joe » D MTL 29 $550,000 2012 (UFA)
Zimmerman, Sean » D ANA 24 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Sullivan, Sean » D FLA 28 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Baumgartner, Nolan » D VAN 33 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Petiot, Richard » D TBL 29 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Jancevski, Dan » D PHI 30 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Vernace, Mike » D NYR 25 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Connelly, Brian » D CGY 25 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Gervais, Bruno » D TBL 27 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Penner, Jeff » D MIN 25 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Miskovic, Zach » D WAS 27 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Leach, Jay » D NJD 32 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Flood, Mark » D WIN 27 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Syvret, Danny » D STL 26 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Liffiton, David » D COL 27 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Eckford, Tyler » D PHO 26 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Bell, Brendan » D NYR 29 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Spang, Dan » D DAL 28 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Collins, Sean » D WAS 28 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Richmond, Danny » D COL 27 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Rodney, Bryan » D EDM 28 $525,000 2012 (UFA)
Moore, Mike » D SAN 27 $512,500 2012 (UFA)
Scott, John » D NYR 29 $512,500 2012 (UFA)
McIver, Nathan » D BOS 27 $512,500 2012 (UFA)
Evans, Brennan » D STL 30 $512,500 2012 (UFA)
Janik, Doug » D DET 32 $512,500 2012 (UFA)
Henry, Alex » D MTL 32 $512,500 2012 (UFA)

 

[fanwagon]

I know the D is the biggest topic here and probably will be all summer long. Hell we might still be talking about it up till the trade deadline next year fwiw. I have a slightly different question.

What are the chances homer tries to restructure G's contract? I mean the fact that there is anyone on this team who makes more than him is a little backwards given the year he had (reg and post season). I was flipping back and forth between cap hit and actual salary and yeah, G makes half of what danny B makes until the last year of his contract. I know he has a relatively new contract, but he wasn't in 'the best player in the world' discussion when he signed it.

If I'm G, I'm looking to make a little more cash and sign for a long time to come. If I'm homer, I'm trying to sign him to as long term deal as possible and try to keep it 'cap friendly'. I mean, isn't he the cornerstone to homer's plan?

It just seems like both sides would have good reason to tackle it early...

 

[awaz]

I know the D is the biggest topic here and probably will be all summer long. Hell we might still be talking about it up till the trade deadline next year fwiw. I have a slightly different question.

What are the chances homer tries to restructure G's contract? I mean the fact that there is anyone on this team who makes more than him is a little backwards given the year he had (reg and post season). I was flipping back and forth between cap hit and actual salary and yeah, G makes half of what danny B makes until the last year of his contract. I know he has a relatively new contract, but he wasn't in 'the best player in the world' discussion when he signed it.

If I'm G, I'm looking to make a little more cash and sign for a long time to come. If I'm homer, I'm trying to sign him to as long term deal as possible and try to keep it 'cap friendly'. I mean, isn't he the cornerstone to homer's plan?

It just seems like both sides would have good reason to tackle it early...

in the current CBA there's not restructuring of contracts.. contracts are signed for the duration of the contract and cannot be eliminated unless the player is bought out.. and buying out a contract costs 2/3's of the remaining salary spread out over twice the duration of the contract in cap space (ie: buy out a guy with 6 mil left to be paid over the next 2 years, (4 mil over 4 years = you lose 1 mil in cap space per year for 4 years).. keep in mind though that this CBA ends this summer (august i think)

giroux was extremely friendly when he signed that contract, though he signed it primarily on potential since he only had 70 points the year prior to signing it, and i believe he signed in the middle of that season

giroux will be the steal of the NHL for the duration of his contract.. and the brilliant thing of it for the flyers is, he'll be restricted at the end of it, which will help them keep the cap hit down because any team that tries to offer sheet him will owe three or four 1st round picks

 

[fanwagon]

in the current CBA there's not restructuring of contracts.. contracts are signed for the duration of the contract and cannot be eliminated unless the player is bought out.. and buying out a contract costs 2/3's of the remaining salary spread out over twice the duration of the contract in cap space (ie: buy out a guy with 6 mil left to be paid over the next 2 years, (4 mil over 4 years = you lose 1 mil in cap space per year for 4 years. i think.).. keep in mind though that this CBA ends this summer (august i think)

giroux was extremely friendly when he signed that contract, though he signed it primarily on potential since he only had 70 points the year prior to signing it, and i believe he signed in the middle of that season

giroux will be the steal of the NHL for the duration of his contract.. and the brilliant thing of it for the flyers is, he'll be restricted at the end of it, which will help them keep the cap hit down because any team that tries to offer sheet him will owe three or four 1st round picks

Holy crap you know a lot about the CBA. I had no idea about any of the above information. Do you keep a copy of it by your bed to read it before you go to sleep? That is way better than the way the NFL does it with holdouts and the like...

I'm going to slowly crawl back behind the proverbial rock and pretend I didnt open my trap.

So about Dmen....

 

[awaz]

Holy crap you know a lot about the CBA. I had no idea about any of the above information. Do you keep a copy of it by your bed to read it before you go to sleep? That is way better than the way the NFL does it with holdouts and the like...

I'm going to slowly crawl back behind the proverbial rock and pretend I didnt open my trap.

So about Dmen....

haha sometimes i worry that i have a problem .. its really interesting to me to see how they work the business side of hockey

stick around these parts and you'll end up like me though.. i learned most of the stuff from this board or the general board (some guys over there are even more ridiculous than i am haha).. plus it helps to follow a team that works its ass off to spend every cent they can and sometimes gets bit in the ass trying to (pronger contract)

 

[mall3013]

Holy crap you know a lot about the CBA. I had no idea about any of the above information. Do you keep a copy of it by your bed to read it before you go to sleep? That is way better than the way the NFL does it with holdouts and the like...

I'm going to slowly crawl back behind the proverbial rock and pretend I didnt open my trap.

So about Dmen....

This is why he came up with this thread. Awaz, 47, Faithful, and others on here know a little bit about the CBA. These are the fellas I go to for info. I got confused. Lol. These guys are engineers, smart!

 

[raptorlife4]

were gonna have some serious problems next offseason.