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I agree with this as well. As I said I'm not a hard core liberal nothing close. And the left has pushed these far left agendas, and more, and I agree they are divisive.

But that's not close to what the GOP has been doing. It's like we are living in bizzarro land where Trump can do nothing to stop a riot he created, praise the rioters, lie to the feds about being in possession of secret documents, pressure election officials to change the results and they have zero problem with any of this. The GOP has actually shown support for all of it.

And that disgusts me. And that is why I will continue to believe the GOP has lost all sense of Right vs Wrong. It's right there to see.
Who is they?
 

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Good one, I feel the same as I have stated.

But you have made your opinion known. You obviously feel Trump holds responsibility for January 6. Interesting how @skinsdad62 has not challenged you on that opinion. Like you he only wants to attack the libs I guess.
What’s to challenge? I’m not indicting every one who has voted for a republican in the last 2 decades. I’m only talking about 1 person, who may have run as a GOP candidate at one time, (before he was a registered democrat, I might add) but is now supported by only a handful of rabid constituents. But again, your disdain for trump can’t let you see this. So I call out the radicals on the right, but I don’t see any on the left, condemning their radicals, who are just as dangerous to our democracy. So, who, by name, on the left do you see as dangerous?
after all, folks in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing stones……why don’t you focus in the weeds in your yard as opposed to your neighbors yard??. You might get a bit more respect if you weren’t so one sided. And I realize you have said you have disgust for some of the policies on the left, but have yet to see you specifically condemn any person or action.
 

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here’s is what I’m talking about. Trump is done. But he is so in your head, you just can’t see it.
 

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I have addressed the "peacefully" comment. Again it was at the end of the speech, appeared to be an afterthought, and was obviously not heard as that "protest" was hardly peaceful. Anyone who believes one sentence offsets an hour of speeches containing language such as "trial by combat" and "You have to fight or you won't have a country anymore" frankly is a fucking idiot. And again if he does not hold that rally this riot never happens. That should end the discussion.

If you think I'm going to rifle through 61 pages of posts to find the specific ones you are referencing, well you have just confirmed that description of you above. If you would like to point it out for me I'll be glad to have a look. But I'm not doing your work for you. If you have something worthy of discussion present it again.
Well they are there and since you are over here on your white horse setting records straight perhaps you should view them . Of course if you scroll through google enough you can find them in 10 minutes tops .
 

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I agree with this as well. As I said I'm not a hard core liberal nothing close. And the left has pushed these far left agendas, and more, and I agree they are divisive.

But that's not close to what the GOP has been doing. It's like we are living in bizzarro land where Trump can do nothing to stop a riot he created, praise the rioters, lie to the feds about being in possession of secret documents, pressure election officials to change the results and they have zero problem with any of this. The GOP has actually shown support for all of it.

And that disgusts me. And that is why I will continue to believe the GOP has lost all sense of Right vs Wrong. It's right there to see.
Oh lord the silliness just continues
 

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Is @skinsdad62 or any of the other Trump guys ever going to address how he pressured election officials into changing the results? I have brought it up several times. Or are you going to continue to hide under the bed and pretend that never happened?

Show some balls dad and address this.
No need to as a court in GA found him innocent of that charge about a month ago .

However if it was still up for debate I would say he did nothing wrong and nothing any different then Stacy Abrams did .
You can call , pressure all you want even beg but that isnt illegal .
just because the liberal mainstream media tells you a bunch of choreographed lies doesn’t make the story true or the accusations
 

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here’s is what I’m talking about. Trump is done. But he is so in your head, you just can’t see it.
I don’t care if trump is done or not , I do know the next guy or gal will be the next satan just like Reagon both Bushes , Romney , McCain and others so it won’t matter
 

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What’s to challenge? I’m not indicting every one who has voted for a republican in the last 2 decades. I’m only talking about 1 person, who may have run as a GOP candidate at one time, (before he was a registered democrat, I might add) but is now supported by only a handful of rabid constituents. But again, your disdain for trump can’t let you see this. So I call out the radicals on the right, but I don’t see any on the left, condemning their radicals, who are just as dangerous to our democracy. So, who, by name, on the left do you see as dangerous?
after all, folks in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing stones……why don’t you focus in the weeds in your yard as opposed to your neighbors yard??. You might get a bit more respect if you weren’t so one sided. And I realize you have said you have disgust for some of the policies on the left, but have yet to see you specifically condemn any person or action.

I'll be happy to do that right after dad starts condoning GOP members. Because that's basically who I've been debating with here yet you only want to call me out for being bias. "Becauuse it's fun" is no reason to give Dad a total pass. I'll get into your specifics that you requested when I get a chance.
 
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No need to as a court in GA found him innocent of that charge about a month ago .

However if it was still up for debate I would say he did nothing wrong and nothing any different then Stacy Abrams did .
You can call , pressure all you want even beg but that isnt illegal .
just because the liberal mainstream media tells you a bunch of choreographed lies doesn’t make the story true or the accusations

No Dad a GA court has not found him innocent, you realy have no idea what you are talking about do you? The article below is from less than 2 weeks ago.

Just how many strikes is this now? I've honestly lost track of how many times you have been wrong

Stacy Abrams took her grievance to court where she lost. Do you know what she never did? She never contacted the election officials to try to pressure them into changing the results in her favor.

So once again you are wrong. What Abrams did was perfectly legal, what Trump did was not which is why he still faces charges potentially. What she did wasn't even close to being comparable to what Donald Trump did.

You actually claim that Trump did nothing wrong by pressuring election officials to change the results. That's all we need to know about you.


ATLANTA (AP) — The special grand jury in Atlanta that has been investigating whether then-President Donald Trump and his allies committed any crimes while trying to overturn his 2020 election loss in Georgia has finished its work, bringing the case closer to possible criminal charges against Trump and others.

 

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What’s to challenge? I’m not indicting every one who has voted for a republican in the last 2 decades. I’m only talking about 1 person, who may have run as a GOP candidate at one time, (before he was a registered democrat, I might add) but is now supported by only a handful of rabid constituents. But again, your disdain for trump can’t let you see this. So I call out the radicals on the right, but I don’t see any on the left, condemning their radicals, who are just as dangerous to our democracy. So, who, by name, on the left do you see as dangerous?
after all, folks in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing stones……why don’t you focus in the weeds in your yard as opposed to your neighbors yard??. You might get a bit more respect if you weren’t so one sided. And I realize you have said you have disgust for some of the policies on the left, but have yet to see you specifically condemn any person or action.

As a conservative you seem to take my comments about the republicans and the GOP personally. I never once called out every single person who voted Republican, my comments were more targeted at the GOP members who called to defund the police after they executed a perfectly legal search warrant. I'm calling out the Pub voters when only 10% wanted the Trump document scandal investigated. That is outrageous and I'm not afraid to say so.

As for the Democrats sorry I don't see anybody who's as dangerous as people who protect a man who's committed such serious crimes, people who were involved with the attempt to get GA officials to change the results of a free and fair election.

But members such as AOC and others on the far left are very devicive and I don't support most of their policies
 

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No Dad a GA court has not found him innocent, you realy have no idea what you are talking about do you? The article below is from less than 2 weeks ago.

Just how many strikes is this now? I've honestly lost track of how many times you have been wrong

Stacy Abrams took her grievance to court where she lost. Do you know what she never did? She never contacted the election officials to try to pressure them into changing the results in her favor.

So once again you are wrong. What Abrams did was perfectly legal, what Trump did was not which is why he still faces charges potentially. What she did wasn't even close to being comparable to what Donald Trump did.

You actually claim that Trump did nothing wrong by pressuring election officials to change the results. That's all we need to know about you.


ATLANTA (AP) — The special grand jury in Atlanta that has been investigating whether then-President Donald Trump and his allies committed any crimes while trying to overturn his 2020 election loss in Georgia has finished its work, bringing the case closer to possible criminal charges against Trump and others.


You are correct: skinsdad has no idea what he is talking about. When you prove him wrong, even WITH sources, his defense is to claim that sources are fake news. In this way, he never has to be held accountable to his deranged ideology.
 

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You are correct: skinsdad has no idea what he is talking about. When you prove him wrong, even WITH sources, his defense is to claim that sources are fake news. In this way, he never has to be held accountable to his deranged ideology.


Blame in the mainstream media when his sources are equally biased and equally wrong at times has become so annoying, it's all they seem to have in the toolbox.

@skinsdad62 said Trump did nothing wrong when he tried to pressure election officials into changing the results. Those words can't be unsaid.

Who thinks like this? Somebody who has totally lost the ability to determine right from wrong as I've been saying all along.

Questioner election officials to change the results, regardless of what you may believe, is illegal and it's obviously wrong
 

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Blame in the mainstream media when his sources are equally biased and equally wrong at times has become so annoying, it's all they seem to have in the toolbox.

@skinsdad62 said Trump did nothing wrong when he tried to pressure election officials into changing the results. Those words can't be unsaid.

Who thinks like this? Somebody who has totally lost the ability to determine right from wrong as I've been saying all along.

Questioner election officials to change the results, regardless of what you may believe, is illegal and it's obviously wrong
don’t need to unsay anything
 

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I am wrong about the case against in GA being thrown out . It was his lawsuit that was thrown out
 

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don’t need to unsay anything

You're right, this is exactly how you feel. You see nothing wrong with the losing candidate pressuring election officials to change the results so he can win.

And this is what I meant when I said to @j_y19 that so many Republicans have lost their ability to distinguish Right from Wrong. Thank you for providing the perfect example for me to use
 

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Blame in the mainstream media when his sources are equally biased and equally wrong at times has become so annoying, it's all they seem to have in the toolbox.

@skinsdad62 said Trump did nothing wrong when he tried to pressure election officials into changing the results. Those words can't be unsaid.

Who thinks like this? Somebody who has totally lost the ability to determine right from wrong as I've been saying all along.

Questioner election officials to change the results, regardless of what you may believe, is illegal and it's obviously wrong
It’s against my he law to bribe them . It’s against the law for a quid pro quo .
it isn’t illegal to pressure an election certifiar normally a Secretary of State to throw out votes you believe are illegal .
I am an election official and candidates do this all the time . It’s not illegal. Both Bush and Gore pressured officials to throw out ballots

in fact political parties from both parties have observers and challengers that are paid to do that very thing , throw out ballots they deem are illegal
 

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This is one of another one of your "gotcha" moments? LOL.

As I said I'd looked into Ray Epps. I'm perfectly aware that he was one of the leaders of the protest, note I said protest, outside of the US Capital Building.

Know what you didn't show? Epps breaching the police line, encouraging others to attack the police and you have no video of Ray Epps actually inside the Capital Building. In fact as I explained earlier I've seen videos of him playing peacemaker between the rioters and the police
 

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It’s against my he law to bribe them . It’s against the law for a quid pro quo .
it isn’t illegal to pressure an election certifiar normally a Secretary of State to throw out votes you believe are illegal .
I am an election official and candidates do this all the time . It’s not illegal. Both Bush and Gore pressured officials to throw out ballots

in fact political parties from both parties have observers and challengers that are paid to do that very thing , throw out ballots they deem are illegal
Asking for ballots to be thrown out is not the same as telling election officials to "find" the exact number of votes he needed to win the election.

The fact that this needs to be explained to you again speaks volume about you
 

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This is one of another one of your "gotcha" moments? LOL.

As I said I'd looked into Ray Epps. I'm perfectly aware that he was one of the leaders of the protest, note I said protest, outside of the US Capital Building.

Know what you didn't show? Epps breaching the police line, encouraging others to attack the police and you have no video of Ray Epps actually inside the Capital Building. In fact as I explained earlier I've seen videos of him playing peacemaker between the rioters and the police
I showed you telling someone to do it . Now the FBI. Asset cant breech anything or else entrapment laws come into play as it did with the Whitmer kid napping plot . 2 of the 4 people brought to trial were found not guilty because of he judge found the FBI had entrapped them . The other 2 guys were convicted and their cases are on appeal .
 
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