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Dad, while the Prez can declassify and document, there is a process. He cant just think it and not tell anybody.
there is no written process i can find ,
 

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Sitting presidents do have “unilateral and complete authority" to declassify material, though it doesn't fully extend to information classified under the Atomic Energy Act, , hence the so far unproven lie about nuclear secrets
 

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where is this at ?
It’s some article that DGF says proves that all republicans are racist, sexists tyrants because there were questionable images included in the Congrssional report. I’m paraphrasing here since DGF doesn’t have the balls to say it.
 

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i understand but did that happen and can it be proved
Who the fuck knows. But, at one point, trump said that he could just declassify documents just by thinking about it.

let’s just see what the investigation turns up. Personally, I think he Is a dirtbag, but he deserves due process.
 

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It’s some article that DGF says proves that all republicans are racist, sexists tyrants because there were questionable images included in the Congrssional report. I’m paraphrasing here since DGF doesn’t have the balls to say it.
Oh ok thanks
 

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Who the fuck knows. But, at one point, trump said that he could just declassify documents just by thinking about it.

let’s just see what the investigation turns up. Personally, I think he Is a dirtbag, but he deserves due process.
His policies I like mostly , but he is a d bag as a person
 

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Could you be any more condescending? I understand the Constitution, thanks. I also find it disgusting that a military man doesn't seem to have a problem with stolen top secret documents or an attack on our Capitol to stop the peaceful transition of power that is spelled out in the, wait for it, Constitution.
I don’t think you do. You are yet to tell me where Congress has the authority to investigate a private business.

Dad has stated pretty clearly that the POTUS has the authority to declassify information. Sorry, those are not stolen.

As for the peaceful transition of power, the country was founded on a war because of lack of representation. If people feel the election was rigged, it would make sense to have the people’s voices heard if it delayed the results for a day or two...not excusing the violence.
 

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Why would I have a problem with it? The democratic chairman of the committee didn’t have a problem with it, the majority of the reps on the committee are democrats…they all voted to release their report, they knew what was in it, right? None of them, at that time had no issue with it. Of course they will All be shouting from the rafters now that the see blood in the water. What is amazing is you just ignore these facts like the don’t exist. That, my sir, is a definition of a dreamer.

how come you haven’t answered Reptecs question about the authority? Another nasty fact you will continue to ignore?

I did not see Reptec's post so I'll go back and visit that now.

As for the report I'm not talking about the initial report. I'm talking about the memo released later and by the Republicans on the comitee. Sorry I thought you were aware of this release by the GOP so I didn't bother to check my link to confirm that part was include.

Here's a better link from that left wing rag Fox News :) .

The images were included in a Republican Oversight Committee memorandum about House Democrats’ investigation of the team. They were originally sent by former Team President Bruce Allen, and in the memo, the women’s faces and some body parts are blacked out.

 

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It’s some article that DGF says proves that all republicans are racist, sexists tyrants because there were questionable images included in the Congrssional report. I’m paraphrasing here since DGF doesn’t have the balls to say it.

OK now you are pissing me off. Don't do that, we were having a somewhat civil conversation, at least for this place.

I clarified what happened and what I was talking about above. It's not my fault you were ignorant to just what took place.

FYI I went back 5 pages and did not see the post by @Reptec, unless he goes by another name that I am unaware of. If you can point it out I'd be happy to address it.
 
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Yeah the hole place folded up . I don’t ban people for a POV like say twitter did , and FB. Instagram currently do .
This board is one of the most active boards ( team one) if not the most active board on SportsHoopla so I don’t pay much attention to emotional babies and why they leave Or these magnanimous good bye threads only to have them come back time and time again

this place will survive me or anyone else for that matter and I could care less if I am the reason anyone leaves . If you can’t take me that’s your issue not mine but I am not in a popularity contest and if they leave so what ? Someone else will take their place or mine

it’s a message board , it’s about opinions , debates and discussion , if you can’t take the intensity of the debate , then this isn’t place for you but l will fight for my viewpoint without any relenting and the idea I should lay down on my ass like a bitch and fold isn’t In my DNA . You fight for what you believe and I don’t expect you to back down so don’t expect that from me which is all too often the case.
Hell I’ll give you the easy playbook to convince me of your POV . Dont use the MSM to back your POV . They are programed by the Democratic Party . be consistent with your values , “ if it’s your body your choice “ then apply it in all cases not just cherry pick . If you are a constitutionalist then take the good with the bad and don’t cherry pick . And don’t try to suppress speech get up to date information

Here is where I am with you. You claim I am a partisan shill for the libs and have been programed by the MSM while you are completely unable to admit that your sources (and every opinion you hold) are every bit as biased.

I have stated here that I agreed with Trump on the filibuster as well as other ideas he had.

I have posted that while I don't agree I can certainly understand the argument that this was a waste of time for Congress

Earlier I made it clear that when I learned about the server/email issue with Hillary I had concerns because I think our national security is very important At the time, and I still feel this way, I felt Bill Clinton should have been impeached for lying about a blow job. Because you see I believe there is a certain expected level of behavior from the man holding the most important job in the world. .

Does that sound like a partisan hack who does not consider the other point of the view to anyone?

Now we get to you. If you have posted anything close to acceptance of the other point of view I sure haven't seen it because it probably doesn't exist.

You insist Trump declassified these documents while totally ignoring the point that even if this is true that does not change the content and the fact that we had some of most guarded secrets sitting in a fucking golf course. Had Obama done this you would have been screaming "lock him up" as soon as the story broke. And again declassifying does not change the law, and the law says every government document it to be returned to the feds once the President leaves office.

You can actually look at this image below and defend it as no big deal.


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Disclaimer…bias does not mean incorrect. You can have a biased side and still have facts.

Oh I totally agree. I'm just getting tired of being called biased and programmed by the MSM by people who are actually biased and programmed by their sources. The hypocrisy is mind numbing. I've shown that I do consider the other side, I am not always in line with the Dems. For 6 years I have yet to see a Republican make one single post like that about the left. And that includes you.
 

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I don’t think you do. You are yet to tell me where Congress has the authority to investigate a private business.

Dad has stated pretty clearly that the POTUS has the authority to declassify information. Sorry, those are not stolen.
I'm not sure if you are the Reptec J.y had refenced but I'll take a shot here. Congress has broad authority to hold investigations. As far back as the Pujo Committee Hearings of 1912-1913 they were investigating banks. There are many examples of this, surely you remember the Enron investigation no?

As for the docs you may want to familiarize yourself with the Presidential Records Act. Yes he stole these documents that belong by law in the National Archives.

  • Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.
 

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Oh I totally agree. I'm just getting tired of being called biased and programmed by the MSM by people who are actually biased and programmed by their sources. The hypocrisy is mind numbing. I've shown that I do consider the other side, I am not always in line with the Dems. For 6 years I have yet to see a Republican make one single post like that about the left. And that includes you.

The MSM is heavily slanted to the left. There is no real argument to this. The only exception is FOX NEWS who knows their audience and slants right, even though historically they donate far more to democrat causes than they do conservative. This is likely because they get federal money, just like the arts, because the left likes to give tax payer money to shit causes.

If you don’t think I see the other side, then you simply aren’t looking. I have repeatedly stated I have disdain for all that is Trump and called him a crap president. I have stated that conservative causes do occasionally go to right.
 

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I'm not sure if you are the Reptec J.y had refenced but I'll take a shot here. Congress has broad authority to hold investigations. As far back as the Pujo Committee Hearings of 1912-1913 they were investigating banks. There are many examples of this, surely you remember the Enron investigation no?

As for the docs you may want to familiarize yourself with the Presidential Records Act. Yes he stole these documents that belong by law in the National Archives.

  • Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

So let me do the lifting here. Congress has the power to conduct investigations to assist in their legislative duties. In no way does investigating the Washington Redskins aid them in their legislative duties.

Investigation of Enron is quite different. This led to a large swath of federal regulations, assistance on legislative duties.

Define a presidential record. That is also why no charges are brought. Just because the DOJ claims something is presidential record does not mean it is. That is where the courts are brought in to decipher what is. That is also why !Erick Garland is not touching this shit with a ten foot pole.
 

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The MSM is heavily slanted to the left. There is no real argument to this. The only exception is FOX NEWS who knows their audience and slants right, even though historically they donate far more to democrat causes than they do conservative. This is likely because they get federal money, just like the arts, because the left likes to give tax payer money to shit causes.

If you don’t think I see the other side, then you simply aren’t looking. I have repeatedly stated I have disdain for all that is Trump and called him a crap president. I have stated that conservative causes do occasionally go to right.

Well I'm not around all that much so I'll take your word for it. I do however remember your mental gymnastics as you tried to claim " I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?" was not Trump suggesting to doctors that we look at injectingn disinfectants.

You may think he was crap but like every single Republican I've seen online you jumped through hoops to defend him. And you are doing it again here by claiming that since he supposedly declassified the docs that means he didn't steal them. I have corrected you, and I didn't even address that messy little bit of obstruction of justice by having his lawyer sign off on his behalf that every document had been returned which was a straight up lie.
 

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So let me do the lifting here. Congress has the power to conduct investigations to assist in their legislative duties. In no way does investigating the Washington Redskins aid them in their legislative duties.

Investigation of Enron is quite different. This led to a large swath of federal regulations, assistance on legislative duties.

Define a presidential record. That is also why no charges are brought. Just because the DOJ claims something is presidential record does not mean it is. That is where the courts are brought in to decipher what is. That is also why !Erick Garland is not touching this shit with a ten foot pole.

Hey man, you were the one to claim Congress has no authority to investigate private companies. I was simply correcting you. Again.

And again I can see why you would believe this is a waste of time. What I can't understand is why ever single Republican here is willing to die on this hill. Do you have any idea how much time Congress wastes? Have you seen a speaker on the Hill go on and on as the members check out? . Rarely does what is said in these endless speeches amount to anything. They will vote party line or make a backroom deal. Yet they sit through hours of speeches that most of the time amount to nothing.

And again what about the victims? I swear I am the only poster here who has shown sympathy for them. And they have made it clear that this is what they wanted, but obviously you all don't care what the victims want or deserve. You all join in with one collective voice and spew the same arguments of how this was a waste of time and totally ignore the good that came out of these investigations.

And again that good is they did not let the story die, the victims got what they deserved and hoped for in the removal of Daniel Snyder. I firmly believe forcing Goodell to testify as Snyder hid like a coward on his yacht was a turning point, if he does actually sell the team.

And we all got what we wanted too. So what's the problem again? Oh right, it was the Dems who were the driving force and you can't possible see anything good when a Democrat is involved. So sad that you are so partisan and can't see anything else.
 
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The MSM is heavily slanted to the left. There is no real argument to this. The only exception is FOX NEWS who knows their audience and slants right, even though historically they donate far more to democrat causes than they do conservative. This is likely because they get federal money, just like the arts, because the left likes to give tax payer money to shit causes.

If you don’t think I see the other side, then you simply aren’t looking. I have repeatedly stated I have disdain for all that is Trump and called him a crap president. I have stated that conservative causes do occasionally go to right.

In the 10+ years that I’ve been on either this website or ESPN, this is the first time I’ve ever read that you didnt like something republican.

Just saying.

Of course, “Trump was a crap President” is is not the same as “Democrats have a good policy,” which is mot something any of the republicans on here have ever, EVER said.
 
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