Evaluation of 2014 draft

[deep9er]

Progress Report: Grading the 49ers 2014 Draft - San Francisco 49ers | Examiner.com


who was it that argued Marcus Martin did well?

obviously good play by Borland, but Dontae Johnson and Aaron Lynch also huge.

this class COULD turn out to be one of the best "building block" years? I'd think Brandon Thomas would need to pan out, and Ward ups his game to at least consistent starter?

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Progress Report: Grading the 49ers 2014 Draft - San Francisco 49ers | Examiner.com


who was it that argued Marcus Martin did well?

obviously good play by Borland, but Dontae Johnson and Aaron Lynch also huge.

this class COULD turn out to be one of the best "building block" years? I'd think Brandon Thomas would need to pan out, and Ward ups his game to at least consistent starter?

Whoever it was, it's pretty clear their opinion shouldn't carry as much weight at Christian Gin, whose bio contains such achievements as graduating from SJSU in journalism and liking baseball, and who now writes for a free newspaper.

Martin was inconsistent. He had a few pretty solid games, and a few very shaky games. That's to be expected of a very young rookie who missed a lot of the offseason battling an injury and was thrust into the starting lineup. I didn't see anything that made me believe he wasn't going to pan out.

Grading drafts a year or two later is fine, but it's kind of a silly sort of journalistic puff-piece. Let's see how things pan out.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Progress Report: Grading the 49ers 2014 Draft - San Francisco 49ers | Examiner.com


who was it that argued Marcus Martin did well?

obviously good play by Borland, but Dontae Johnson and Aaron Lynch also huge.

this class COULD turn out to be one of the best "building block" years? I'd think Brandon Thomas would need to pan out, and Ward ups his game to at least consistent starter?

I don't like grading draft until two to three years after. We know Borland and Lynch looked really good last year, but other players need more time. Martin struggled at times but that is expected given what he was thrown into. I would still give that pick an N/A. Even Hyde, who I think will be really great hasn't earned that high status yet.

 

[deep9er]

49ers rookies 2014 review: Marcus Martin - Niners Nation

 

[deep9er]

I don't like grading draft until two to three years after. We know Borland and Lynch looked really good last year, but other players need more time. Martin struggled at times but that is expected given what he was thrown into. I would still give that pick an N/A. Even Hyde, who I think will be really great hasn't earned that high status yet.

it had nothing to do about MM's future success, only about his play in 2014. It was acknowledged he got injured and was a rookie, but he still argued Martin did well in 2014.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

49ers rookies 2014 review: Marcus Martin - Niners Nation

That's a pretty fair review. No doubt he needs to improve, but I expect him to.

 

[Pattersonca65]

it had nothing to do about MM's future success, only about his play in 2014. It was acknowledged he got injured and was a rookie, but he still argued Martin did well in 2014.

But what you posted is giving out draft grades and what I am saying is it is too early to be making those grades

 

[Crimsoncrew]

it had nothing to do about MM's future success, only about his play in 2014. It was acknowledged he got injured and was a rookie, but he still argued Martin did well in 2014.

Now, he's projecting the ultimate value of the pick based on performance this year:

Below is the final rundown where I review the 49ers' 2014 NFL Draft. These grades are merely a progress report, where we can't judge them completely until they have three full years in the league. Think of them as being penciled in and how the player is on pace to be graded based on this year alone.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Now, he's projecting the ultimate value of the pick based on performance this year:

Below is the final rundown where I review the 49ers' 2014 NFL Draft. These grades are merely a progress report, where we can't judge them completely until they have three full years in the league. Think of them as being penciled in and how the player is on pace to be graded based on this year alone.

This analysis is pretty useless

 

[purguy12]

Progress Report: Grading the 49ers 2014 Draft - San Francisco 49ers | Examiner.com


who was it that argued Marcus Martin did well?

obviously good play by Borland, but Dontae Johnson and Aaron Lynch also huge.

this class COULD turn out to be one of the best "building block" years? I'd think Brandon Thomas would need to pan out, and Ward ups his game to at least consistent starter?

great class plus hyde. just need ward to play better and the is A+ class

 

[wartyOne]

"He averaged four yards per carry and had 333 rushing yards to go with four touchdowns."

How does this generate an "A" grade for a second round running back on a rushing-first offense with a guy who has CLEARLY lost a step in front of him? C+ at absolute best.

 

[Pattersonca65]

"He averaged four yards per carry and had 333 rushing yards to go with four touchdowns."

How does this generate an "A" grade for a second round running back on a rushing-first offense with a guy who has CLEARLY lost a step in front of him? C+ at absolute best.

They kind of abandoned the rush first offense last season

 

[wartyOne]

great class plus hyde. just need ward to play better and the is A+ class

Seriously? I know you're a fan, but this is runaway homerism. I'd give this class a C at the moment, and only because of Borland. Take him out, and this is a borderline F draft class.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Seriously? I know you're a fan, but this is runaway homerism. I'd give this class a C at the moment, and only because of Borland. Take him out, and this is a borderline F draft class.

What about Lynch?

 

[wartyOne]

They kind of abandoned the rush first offense last season

487 passing attempts (with a stooge under center) versus opponents 551.

470 rushing attempts (with a guy winding down) versus opponents 402.

In a league that is geared toward allowing teams to pass, I'd consider this to be rush first. I've said all along that Roman was marginal at best, but teams with these rules (passing allowed) shouldn't be this close to 50/50. I didn't do the research around the rest of the league, but I bet that percentage puts us in the bottom five of "pass" first teams.

 

[Pattersonca65]

487 passing attempts (with a stooge under center) versus opponents 551.

470 rushing attempts (with a guy winding down) versus opponents 402.

In a league that is geared toward allowing teams to pass, I'd consider this to be rush first. I've said all along that Roman was marginal at best, but teams with these rules (passing allowed) shouldn't be this close to 50/50. I didn't do the research around the rest of the league, but I bet that percentage puts us in the bottom five of "pass" first teams.

Take out Kapernick's runs and it looks somewhat different

 

[wartyOne]

487 passing attempts (with a stooge under center) versus opponents 551.

470 rushing attempts (with a guy winding down) versus opponents 402.

In a league that is geared toward allowing teams to pass, I'd consider this to be rush first. I've said all along that Roman was marginal at best, but teams with these rules (passing allowed) shouldn't be this close to 50/50. I didn't do the research around the rest of the league, but I bet that percentage puts us in the bottom five of "pass" first teams.

Just among our division:

Cardinals
568 passing attempts
Opponets 579

397 Rushing attempts
Opponents 396

Seahawks (Lynch in his prime, and arguably the best RB in the league this year)
454 Pass attempts
Opponents 507

525 Rushing attempts (Lynch in his prime, and arguably the best RB in the league this year)
Opponents 380

Rams
515 Passing attempts (Austin Davis at QB; ummm, who?)
Opponents 540

395 Rushing attempts (Honestly, I have no idea who Tre Mason is)
Opponents 425


We passed less than the Cardinals with an ace bandage at QB and the Rams with Austin Texas, whom I couldn't pick out in a police lineup with one other person. I'd hardly call that leaning on the pass with a QB who was supposed to be a strength on this team.

Comparitively...

Patriots
609 Passing attempts
Opponents (because they were getting killed most of the game) 574

438 Rushing attempts
Opponents 419

Packers
536 Passing attempts
Opponents (because they were getting killed most of the game) 564

349 Rushing attempts
Opponents 333

We may have passed more than we ran (barely) but we weren't a "pass first" team.

 

[wartyOne]

Take out Kapernick's runs and it looks somewhat different

You can't take those out. That's part of his game. If you take out his designed runs, you have to add in his "I-can't-believe-he-just-took-that" sacks.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Seriously? I know you're a fan, but this is runaway homerism. I'd give this class a C at the moment, and only because of Borland. Take him out, and this is a borderline F draft class.

Well between the two of you we've probably got something close to the reality.

 

[wartyOne]

Well between the two of you we've probably got something close to the reality.

Ouch. Still holding to the hope that Tomsula is going to work out?