10HtownRebs
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I don't think you do
Ok, so since you understand explain to me why he is not a HOF qb...
I'll be waiting..
I don't think you do
I've already talked about it (either here or in the other thread).Ok, so since you understand explain to me why he is not a HOF qb...
I'll be waiting..
You're right, that was a nice undefeated season for Brady. Unparalleled. Oh wait.
Admit it. Eli fucked your mom and now you cry about it daily.
four years too late
I've already talked about it (either here or in the other thread).
He's never been a top 5 QB any year... His entire career, he was a top 10 QB only a few seasons. So, he was above average for a long time. Yay... Sounds like an all time great to me.
I kind of agree with you, but he shouldn't be
elis last 2 seasons >>>namaths last 2 seasons4 yrs...It was a rough ride at the end, but nah...his legacy is still intact.
I don't feel comfortable putting him in this grouping, but many greats in sports hung on too long...Chamberlin, Ali, Kareem, Namath, Rose, Nolan Ryan.
As a fan you remember the good mostly.
I don't have as much of an issue with Kurt Warner as I do Eli. Kurt was a top 2-3 QB in the league for a few seasons.That's kind of a another topic, because we drag all the other "fringe" HOFers out.
Kurt Warner imo was a very good player...great story, great career...HOF career? imo no, but he's in.
I don't have as much of an issue with Kurt Warner as I do Eli. Kurt was a top 2-3 QB in the league for a few seasons.
True, he was. That's a very good career...not a HOF career imo.
For me...trying to justify Warner yet exclude Eli is a difficult sales job.
I've already talked about it (either here or in the other thread).
He's never been a top 5 QB any year... His entire career, he was a top 10 QB only a few seasons. So, he was above average for a long time. Yay... Sounds like an all time great to me.
He never finished better than 7th or 8th in QBR (and I think the other QB rating) in any season. Every season he played in, there were at least a handful of better QBs playing. You have to judge players on how they compared to their peers. He just happened to play a long time in an era where you throw for a lot of yards.Idk what your definition of top 5 any year is ... but how about number 7 of ALL TIME (forever ever) in passing yards and TDs...
2time 2time superbowl champion and mvp... only 5 people to ever walk the earth can make that claim.
Sounds like you got EDS...
For me it isn't. For me, you have had to be a top 3 player at your position for some time in the league. I know that is not how the HOF does it, but I don't agree with them many times. Warner was the best in the league for 2 seasons. Top 5 another couple years. I had no issue putting Terrell Davis in. He was the best for a couple years.
I don't think he should be in the HOF. Not even close in my opinion. But I'm one who would like to see the criteria be a bit tougher.
Eli wasn't a top 5 player at his position in any year he played. I think you have to be around the top 3 at your position fo at least 1-2 years.
That's kind of a another topic, because we drag all the other "fringe" HOFers out.
Kurt Warner imo was a very good player...great story, great career...HOF career? imo no, but he's in.