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Eating some Zeets; why I hate Krapakami

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So, there' this from Krap's blog yesterday:

I don’t know if any team would take Zito if it cost them even only $9M over three years–that’s still $8M more than they’d have to pay some kid to put up similar numbers, possibly–but it’s worth a try.

First, Krapakami is full of....wait for it....KRAP.
1. Any team in baseball, even the Phil$, would take Zito for 9MM/3 years. He's worth roughly 9-10MM/yr as a 2.0 WAR pitcher
2. "Some kid" isn't likely to be a 2.0 pitcher. Those "kids" are in short supply in baseball, witness the dumpster full of Bartolo Colons the Yankee$ have amassed. If "some kid" IS a 2.0 pitcher (you know, the kind who throw 190 innings, have a 4.10 ERA and take the ball 32 times) then you STILL need Zito, unless you're the Phil$, and even then it's arguable that Blanton isn't their Zito.

Now, that foolishness aside, it does prompt the question which might be interesting for us to kick around:

How much salary would the Giants have to eat to trade Zito for peanuts (or a Ryan Verdugo/Brad Eldred type prospect)?

My guess:

Given Barry's WARs for the last four years of:
2007 1.7
2008 1.4
2009 2.2
2010 2.1
..for an average WAR of 1.85. He's got three years at $18.5, $19, $20, and a $7 buyout in 2014 (in millions). Let's say he remains that guy for the next three years. I think this is a reasonable assumption given his past performance and durability. That's a total of $64.5 he's due for the remainder of his contract. If he puts up three 1.85 WAR seasons, that would be a total of 5.55 WAR. Currently, WAR is valued at $5 per, so my estimated "value" for Zito 2011-2013 is about $27.75. Thus I'd estimate we'd have to "eat" $36.75 to trade him away for peanuts. If more significant talent were coming back then the amount the Giants would have to absorb would be higher.

Disclaimer: I do NOT think we should be dealing Zito, as no major league average pitcher is available to replace him in our system or through FA.
 

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Everyone who reads Krapakami knows the guy plays off emotion. Straight logic is not one of his strong suits.

If you really want to be able to tolerate the man's writing, you have to translate his words as if you were talking to one of two people: a stumbling drunken fan in a dive bar or your 6-year-old son. So when Kawakami says that no one would take Zito for $9 mil over 3 years, he is trying to say that Zito isn't worthy of a long-term deal because he sucks right now. He is also likely saying that trading Zito would not bring back the required replacement pitcher unless the Giants ate at least 90% of his contract - including the buyout.

You cannot read Kawakami and expect detached logic. That would be like reading a Cazic post and expecting ANY logic.
 

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TZ, that's pure gold compared to his extensive knowledge on all things Sharks.....
 

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Everyone who reads Krapakami knows the guy plays off emotion. Straight logic is not one of his strong suits.

If you really want to be able to tolerate the man's writing, you have to translate his words as if you were talking to one of two people: a stumbling drunken fan in a dive bar or your 6-year-old son. So when Kawakami says that no one would take Zito for $9 mil over 3 years, he is trying to say that Zito isn't worthy of a long-term deal because he sucks right now. He is also likely saying that trading Zito would not bring back the required replacement pitcher unless the Giants ate at least 90% of his contract - including the buyout.

You cannot read Kawakami and expect detached logic. That would be like reading a Cazic post and expecting ANY logic.

Bam!!

Post...of....the...WEEK!
 

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I'm pumped man. That said it's all about April, May and June :D

Too true. Right after I typed that, I pondered if they were peaking too soon. That said, at the risk of a jinx, Heatley seems to be breaking out of his year-long slump. It couldn't really last an entire season and a half, could it?
 

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Too true. Right after I typed that, I pondered if they were peaking too soon. That said, at the risk of a jinx, Heatley seems to be breaking out of his year-long slump. It couldn't really last an entire season and a half, could it?

Sharks are premature ejaculators man.....there's just no two ways about it. :D
 
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