Did you have dreams of Gronk on your team? Sorry...you'll have to wait a while.

[jarntt]

Are you two seeing someone questioning whether Gronk is a good player? I may have someone on "ignore" by mistake. Or am I the one arguing here???

 

[Rex Racer]

Really? TB is the best QB in history and not even the most dominant offensive player on his own team???
Forgetting QBs. Calvin is a mile more dominant than Gronk.

Maybe when we see Calvin knocking DL's and LB's on their ass, then catching the ball over the middle and dragging 3 DB's downfield for 10 extra yards.

 

[flyerhawk]

he is way ahead of tony gonzalez's pace for shits sake

ages 21-25

gonzalez:

79 games (63 starts)
334 catches
3958 yards
30 TD's
11.9 per

no surgeries

gronk:

65 games (54 starts)
308 catches
4379 yards
54 TD's
14.2 per
multiple surgeries on his arm, back and knee

Jimmy Graham apparently doesn't count as a TE?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Jimmy Graham apparently doesn't count as a TE?

well, he is only after begging to be called one for contractual purposes. TE's block, usually...well.

hes more of a WR than a TE.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Patriots Rob Gronkowski is the new generation of tight end | The Kansas City Star

“Right now, he is easily the best tight end in the NFL because he also blocks, which is an important part of the position. He’s a guy who doesn’t come off the field in the run game. If it’s third and 1, he’s at the point of attack putting those meat hooks on people.”

-tony gonzalez

 

[jarntt]

Maybe when we see Calvin knocking DL's and LB's on their ass, then catching the ball over the middle and dragging 3 DB's downfield for 10 extra yards.

Yep, they both have a good skill set. Of course Calvin just runs right by or jumps over most guys on the field if they ever try to put one guy on him...Imagine a LB trying to cover Calvin? Heck I know I'm worried when Dallas has a both a CB and Safety trying to cover him all game...

 

[Rex Racer]

Yep, they both have a good skill set. Of course Calvin just runs right by or jumps over most guys on the field if they ever try to put one guy on him...Imagine a LB trying to cover Calvin? Heck I know I'm worried when Dallas has a both a CB and Safety trying to cover him all game...

CJ is awesome for sure, you're just going to see him blocking linemen and linebackers on running plays.

 

[flyerhawk]

well, he is only after begging to be called one for contractual purposes. TE's block, usually...well.

hes more of a WR than a TE.

So what makes Gronk so unbelievable is his blocking ability? Interesting logic.

 

[Rock Strongo]

So what makes Gronk so unbelievable is his blocking ability? Interesting logic.

ask the best TE in history, whom i just quoted.

 

[Rock Strongo]

CJ is awesome for sure, you're just going to see him blocking linemen and linebackers on running plays.

CJ is also on the wrong side of 30

gronks still a kid.

 

[flyerhawk]

ask the best TE in history, whom i just quoted.

He's not here so I can't ask him. That's why I asked you.

 

[Rock Strongo]

He's not here so I can't ask him. That's why I asked you.

did you ignore my link and verbatim quote?

 

[jarntt]

ask the best TE in history, whom i just quoted.

Yeah, he likes his TE's. Also said this about Graham:

He is not a wide receiver. But he also is not a traditional tight end. Call it the Flex, Joker, Tight Wide or Tighty Widey position for all I care, but whatever you call it, he is among the three elite players at his position. He makes a strong case, if you judge by statistics, to be considered the best of those three elites. His statistics speak for themselves, and we will return to the numbers in a bit.

 

[Rock Strongo]

graham came out on run plays in new orleans. i know hes new to you guys, but thats what he did there.

i know theyre asking him to block in seattle...for the first time in his career, in his late 20's...he has to learn to block in NFL schemes.

should be interesting.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Yeah, he likes his TE's. Also said this about Graham:

He is not a wide receiver. But he also is not a traditional tight end. Call it the Flex, Joker, Tight Wide or Tighty Widey position for all I care, but whatever you call it, he is among the three elite players at his position. He makes a strong case, if you judge by statistics, to be considered the best of those three elites. His statistics speak for themselves, and we will return to the numbers in a bit.

yup

he agrees with me...

 

[jarntt]

yup

he agrees with me...

he also shits in the shower???

 

[Rock Strongo]

he also shits in the shower???

is this where you go when you cant argue properly?

like i said (and gonzalez)

if you go by stats, hes a great TE...top 3. if you go by football, hes a WR playing TE. hes never blocked. not at miami. not in NO.

he is learning how to now.

could he be good at it? sure. could he suck?

yup

he'll definitely help those paltry red zone numbers for wilson tho.

 

[jarntt]

is this where you go when you cant argue properly?

like i said (and gonzalez)

if you go by stats, hes a great TE...top 3. if you go by football, hes a WR playing TE. hes never blocked. not at miami. not in NO.

he is learning how to now.

umm, no, I thought i was just making a joke.

What am I arguing exactly? I think Gronk is a great player. Do I think he is the best TE in the game right now? Probably, but top 2 for sure. Do I dream he was on my team, no. Do I think he is better than Calvin? Hell no...

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Jimmy Graham apparently doesn't count as a TE?

You got it Pontiac.

 

[Rock Strongo]

umm, no, I thought i was just making a joke.

What am I arguing exactly? I think Gronk is a great player. Do I think he is the best TE in the game right now? Probably, but top 2 for sure. Do I dream he was on my team, no. Do I think he is better than Calvin? Hell no...

my bad then.

ha ha ha

joke taken


PS shit in the shower once, its liberating.