DH Compromise

[calsnowskier]

Should be consistency among both leagues, either a DH in both or pitcher batting in both, no in between.

But the AL-fans do not want pitchers hitting and the NL-fans want the strategy. Going with one of the two current methods would not work.

I did not want this thread to be a DH vs no-DH discussion. I want this thread to be about discussion other solutions. Would the compromise presented in the op work? What tweaks need to be made? What problems does it introduce?

 

[The Q]

But the AL-fans do not want pitchers hitting and the NL-fans want the strategy. Going with one of the two current methods would not work.

I did not want this thread to be a DH vs no-DH discussion. I want this thread to be about discussion other solutions. Would the compromise presented in the op work? What tweaks need to be made? What problems does it introduce?

Again the easiest solution is they can do what they want until the WS. Both fans get what they want for almost 200 games, and then you play with ONE, SINGLE set of rules in the championship round.

 

[williewilliejuan]

I don't care about it until the WS.

Then it's just ridiculous. It's like the NHL having 3 of it's Stanley cup final be 4 on 4 and other 4 being 5 on 5 or vice versa. It's just a little silly.

Wouldn't work. NL teams don't have roster space for a guy who can hit, but not field. If the AL wants to keep the DH (since they're the one who changed their rules), they'll just have to deal with not being able to use their one-dimensional player in parks where the game is played as God intended.

 

[calsnowskier]

Again the easiest solution is they can do what they want until the WS. Both fans get what they want for almost 200 games, and then you play with ONE, SINGLE set of rules in the championship round.

I 100% disagree with this idea.

AL teams are built to utilize a DH. NL teams are built to utilize roster depth. To give one league that huge of an advantage does not make sense.

 

[The Q]

Wouldn't work. NL teams don't have roster space for a guy who can hit, but not field. If the AL wants to keep the DH (since they're the one who changed their rules), they'll just have to deal with not being able to use their one-dimensional player in parks where the game is played as God intended.

Seems to already work fine with 3 or 4 games as it is. So i don't see how you can say that.

Guys like Matt Stairs and Glen Allen Hill were employed by NL teams for years.

So your statement is proven false by history.

 

[The Q]

I 100% disagree with this idea.

AL teams are built to utilize a DH. NL teams are built to utilize roster depth. To give one leage that huge of an advantage does not make sense.

then you will never have a compromise. It just won't happen. Changing the rules during a major championship event is simply retarded. There's a reason no other sport does it.

 

[calsnowskier]

then you will never have a compromise. It just won't happen. Changing the rules during a major championship event is simply retarded. There's a reason no other sport does it.

My idea in the op is not just for the WS. It is an idea for all of baseball.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Best compromise:

NL does whatever the hell it wants up until this point, but the WS is 7 games with no DH.

Well alrighty then...

 

[The Q]

My idea in the op is not just for the WS. It is an idea for all of baseball.

When the ideas are so diametrically opposite, making a small change of 3-4 games is basically the lowest form of compromise available. My suggestion is by far the easiest way to create compromise. anything else will be much harder to create.

 

[calsnowskier]

Seems to already work fine with 3 or 4 games as it is. So i don't see how you can say that.

Guys like Matt Stairs and Glen Allen Hill were employed by NL teams for years.

So your statement is proven false by history.

And the argument can be made that Vlad cost the Rangers in 2010 with his defense. The Rangers were not built to NOT have a DH.

 

[The Q]

And the argument can be made that Vlad cost the Rangers in 2010 with his defense. The Rangers were not built to NOT have a DH.

The Phillies and Giants won with Pat Burrell in LF. And while Raul Ibanez gifted the Giants the 2010 NLCS with OF defense that made Vlad and Nelson Cruz look like Tom Emansky video stars, clearly teams win without the Royals style OF.

 

[williewilliejuan]

then you will never have a compromise. It just won't happen. Changing the rules during a major championship event is simply retarded. There's a reason no other sport does it.

Your proposal would change the rules during a major championship. The only difference is your proposal only changes the rules for one side.

 

[The Q]

Your proposal would change the rules during a major championship. The only difference is your proposal only changes the rules for one side.

No. It creates uniformity. Such as in my analogy, requireing both sides to play 5 on 5 vs. one being 4 on 4.

 

[williewilliejuan]

No. It creates uniformity. Such as in my analogy, requireing both sides to play 5 on 5 vs. one being 4 on 4.

You're "creating uniformity" by changing the rules for one league. At least the way it is now is fair to both leagues.

 

[RobToxin]

I can take or leave the DH. I don't really care.

But...

when you have full season interleague play and still have one league using one set of rules and the other league using a different set of rules....

Well that's just stupid!

 

[The Q]

You're "creating uniformity" by changing the rules for one league. At least the way it is now is fair to both leagues.

Not really. You don't get an equal amount of games DH/No-DH.

 

[calsnowskier]

Not really. You don't get an equal amount of games DH/No-DH.

Perfection is not possible unless both leagues play with the same rules (hence my compromise).

But for the WS, maybe have the games in the NL parks play with the DH and the games in the AL parks play with no DH?

I am not a huge fan of this idea because as stated, NL fans typically like the NL rules and AL fans typically like AL rules.

 

[HammerDown]

In general I just want the game left alone so I'd prefer status quo of leaving bastard baseball in the AL and pure baseball in the NL as opposed to adopting this.

 

[msgkings322]

then you will never have a compromise. It just won't happen. Changing the rules during a major championship event is simply retarded. There's a reason no other sport does it.

There's a lot of cool, quirky things about baseball that no other sport does. I think it's fantastic.

 

[jwolt92]

Here's my idea:

Mondays, Wednesday, and Fridays we go with no DH anywhere.

Tuesdays, Thursday, and Saturdays we go with a DH in every game.

Then we alternate Sundays.

Game over