Dalton wins rookie of the week

[vancelot23]

This is his second time winning it.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

This is his second time winning it.

Starting to build up a head of steam with NFl Network praising him almost every week now.

 

[vancelot23]

As I said, Newton was off the charts to start the year, but he's cooled off dramatically, especially at the job of quarterbacking. He hasn't been putting up big numbers after 2 huge yardage games to start the year. Dalton is getting better as the year goes on.

 

[flamingrey]

As I said, Newton was off the charts to start the year, but he's cooled off dramatically, especially at the job of quarterbacking. He hasn't been putting up big numbers after 2 huge yardage games to start the year. Dalton is getting better as the year goes on.

Dalton hasn't put up good numbers in 2 of his last 3 games and has lost 2 of his last 3. However, the argument is still made he's getting better or he's playing well. The same can apply for Newton as well despite not putting up good numbers 2 of the last 3 or winning 2 of the last 3. Only way anyone can say otherwise is if they've watched him all season and especially the last 3 games.

As far as the media goes, at this time of the year, they're going to mostly cover the teams that are winning. Others are an afterthought. I wouldn't put too much stock on coverage.

 

[vancelot23]

I didn't say anything about coverage. I said Newton has cooled off some. Dalton hasn't put up huge numbers all year, so there hasn't been a drop off. Even the 2 lost games, he brought the team back late and put them in a position to win.

 

[jgreene95]

Its all about Teblow now

 

[DanBengalfan]

Tebow is not a rookie, so he's not in the discussions at all...

 

[flamingrey]

I didn't say anything about coverage. I said Newton has cooled off some. Dalton hasn't put up huge numbers all year, so there hasn't been a drop off. Even the 2 lost games, he brought the team back late and put them in a position to win.

He's thrown a lot of interceptions those games. Again, unless youve seen cam's games, you cant say he hasn't done things well or that he's been regressing. There's just no way to know.

 

[vancelot23]

I didn't say regressing either. I said he had cooled off, as in, not putting up 400 yards like he did in his first two weeks. He's only broken 300 yards once since then I think, maybe twice. He's also thrown some picks. I didn't say he was playing horribly. I said cooled off from those first few games, especially the first one. Reading comprehension.

 

[flamingrey]

I know exactly what you said. But what you arent understanding is that so has Dalton in that sense. In 2 of his last 3 games he's almost thrown as many interceptions as he had all year. We can't pick and choose which stats we want to consider as a barometer or which to ignore. Yet apparently he can be on an upword trend. So, I ask, why can Cam not be even despite not putting up as gawdy stats.

And let this be a reminder I was one of the few early on in the year that wasn't going crazy over the stats Cam was putting up. Too much goes into stats.

All I ask is if we can view Andy one way - not judging him entirely by stats, then we should allow the same for Cam. And that we cannot do without having watched his games.

 

[vancelot23]

Fair enough.

 

[daytonbenglfan]

How many games against the Ravens and Steelers has Cam had to play?

 

[vancelot23]

I think I read that Dalton has played a top 10 defense 6 times this year, compared to twice for Cam. The average defensive ranking vs Dalton is 11.6 compared to 18.5 for Newton

 

[cravnravn]

Dalton is ROY hands down

How fun would this division be if Leaveland got off the pot and became competitive.

 

[kramer1]

Dalton is ROY hands down

How fun would this division be if Leaveland got off the pot and became competitive.

They should trade for Peyton Manning. He'd be a god there too. With the loss of LeBron they're looking from someone to idolize again.

 

[futballiscool]

They should trade for Peyton Manning. He'd be a god there too. With the loss of LeBron they're looking from someone to idolize again.

they're 4-7 with 4 of their last 5 against the Ravens and Steelers. they'll probably have a top 5 pick, plus they have an extra 1st rder from the Falcons trade last yr. they're in a good spot to get Barkley.

 

[kramer1]

they're 4-7 with 4 of their last 5 against the Ravens and Steelers. they'll probably have a top 5 pick, plus they have an extra 1st rder from the Falcons trade last yr. they're in a good spot to get Barkley.

They have a great track record of drafting QB's too!

Nah, you trade the picks for Manning and let McCoy watch for 3 seasons. Win-win.

 

[futballiscool]

But you have to factor in a couple things. Manning's 36 and coming off a bad injury. If it's a team like the Jets or the 49ers who somebody could argue is a bigtime QB a way from being a SB team it's worth trading high picks for him.

With the Browns, Manning would be going to a bad weather team with no skill at WR who play in the best division in football...

he's meant so much to the Colts franchise that if they do trade him I think it'll be to a place of his choice