Daily thread : who's crying now..

[fordman84]

Do they wire your jaw when you break your jaw?

That has to suck.

Heyward out 4-6 weeks? Braves coasting anyway....doubt it matters.

freaking yahoo won't put him on the DL. I need to swap him with a pitcher going today, but can't because they won't update him to being on the DL.

Hate that site.

 

[dblakejr7]

Breakfast lunch and dinner through a straw.. Did you see the reaction by the pitcher.. Once a year there's a beaning that's accidental.. That was it..

 

[Jerzyjeff]

said it before and i'll say it again, i'll put my whiffle ball stats up against anybody

As would I. I kicked ass in whiffleball.

 

[MISKO]

2 weeks off > 3 day weekend

Jays really have the yanks # this yr

Im taking 2 weeks off in sept to go on an Alaskan cruise

twins will lose again

 

[HammerDown]

No one adds the ABA numbers of Dr. J, George "Iceman" Gervin, Artis Gilmore, etc. to their career stats.

Why is ESPN choosing to do it for Ichiro? He didn't get 4,000 hits against MLB pitchers.

 

[fordman84]

No one adds the ABA numbers of Dr. J, George "Iceman" Gervin, Artis Gilmore, etc. to their career stats.

Why is ESPN choosing to do it for Ichiro? He didn't get 4,000 hits against MLB pitchers.

It is setting a precedent. So do we include any HR's Manny hit while in Japan into his stats? Can we add the 1200 or so K's Yu got in Japan to his record?

How about in the NBA. If someone is playing in the top Argentinian league, does that count? How about a top Italian or Chinese league?


Wonder if Ichiro was still in SEA if this 4k hits would be a story.

 

[fordman84]

Wonder what happens if Arod is suspended and goes and plays for 2 years in Japan, where he hits another 60 HR's. If stats at the beginning of a career count, then do stats at the end of a career?

 

[CaptO]

Wonder if Ichiro was still in SEA if this 4k hits would be a story.

Highly doubtful. Yanks are media whores

 

[Brocktagon]

Wonder what happens if Arod is suspended and goes and plays for 2 years in Japan, where he hits another 60 HR's. If stats at the beginning of a career count, then do stats at the end of a career?

that's one helluva PTI discussion!

 

[HammerDown]

Warren Moon has 70,000 passing yards.

Ichiro has 4,000 hits.

Next we'll start combing college numbers too in special circumstances when the media desperately needs to idolize someone for financial gain.

 

[dblakejr7]

No one adds the ABA numbers of Dr. J, George "Iceman" Gervin, Artis Gilmore, etc. to their career stats.

Why is ESPN choosing to do it for Ichiro? He didn't get 4,000 hits against MLB pitchers.

Cause espn is almost as bad as the YES network.. And it's a slow news day?

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Breakfast lunch and dinner through a straw.. Did you see the reaction by the pitcher.. Once a year there's a beaning that's accidental.. That was it..

Yes...accidental...

Is there a "darting eyes" emoticon? Not that I would need to use it, or anything. Just asking.

 

[dblakejr7]

Not only that they are trying to find some redemption with a feel good story after the whole biogenesis fiasco.. Someone call tosh.o these people need some web redemption.

 

[HammerDown]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see how reactionary ESPN is.

"Ichiro clearly among the greatest of all time."

No, he's not even in the top 50 for all-time hits.

This is MLB. Not the Hiroshima Flying Pacific Storm Crashers.

 

[Jerzyjeff]

No one adds the ABA numbers of Dr. J, George "Iceman" Gervin, Artis Gilmore, etc. to their career stats.

Why is ESPN choosing to do it for Ichiro? He didn't get 4,000 hits against MLB pitchers.

They didn't use WHA records either.........But they DO count AFL records in football.........

 

[Brocktagon]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see how reactionary ESPN is.

"Ichiro clearly among the greatest of all time."

clearly up there with buckner and damon.

 

[HammerDown]

Compare the career stats of Lou Gehrig and Ichiro. Not even close!

Gehrig has one less career hit.

In 508 less plate appearances, plus he hit for power. Gehrig shatters literally every measurable offensive stat of Ichiro. But the reactionary media (read: ESPN) is going to anoint him among the greats.

 

[HammerDown]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see how reactionary ESPN is.

"Ichiro clearly among the greatest of all time."

clearly up there with buckner and damon.

It's almost as if you could say this routine ground ball went right between ESPN's legs.

 

[BigDDude]

Compare the career stats of Lou Gehrig and Ichiro. Not even close!

Gehrig has one less career hit.

In 508 less plate appearances, plus he hit for power. Gehrig shatters literally every measurable offensive stat of Ichiro. But the reactionary media (read: ESPN) is going to anoint him among the greats.

Lets be fair now Hammer. Let's do more of an "apples to apples" compairison. He will probably pail, but, I think he should be run up against guys more like the hitter type he is, like Rod Carew, Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs et al.

 

[HammerDown]

Lets be fair now Hammer. Let's do more of an "apples to apples" compairison. He will probably pail, but, I think he should be run up against guys more like the hitter type he is, like Rod Carew, Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs et al.

No comaprison!

Player Years Level G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP IBB SH SF GDP AVG OBP SLG OPS R/PA 2B/PA HR/PA RBI/PA SB/PA BB/PA Speed Contact Patience Batting Power
Tony Gwynn 1982-2001 MLB 2440 9288 1383 3141 543 85 135 1138 319 125 790 434 24 203 45 85 260 .338 .388 .459 847 0.14 0.05 0.01 0.11 0.03 0.08 59 97 38 93 33
Ichiro Suzuki 2001-2013 MLB 2030 8505 1252 2721 321 83 110 689 470 105 538 857 50 177 39 39 74 .320 .362 .416 778 0.14 0.04 0.01 0.08 0.05 0.06 93 93 25 92 11

 

[HammerDown]

Lets be fair now Hammer. Let's do more of an "apples to apples" compairison. He will probably pail, but, I think he should be run up against guys more like the hitter type he is, like Rod Carew, Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs et al.

Not even close! Tony Gwynn outclasses them all and Ichiro is solidly in 4th in almost every category. We should probably remove Rod Carew.

Source: TheBaseballCube.com