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Discussion in 'MLB Baseball Forum' started by Mike A. S., Jan 10, 2018.

  1. DirtDirtDirt

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    [​IMG]Jake Kaplan‏Verified account @jakemkaplan
    Just spoke with Astros general manager Jeff Luhnow, who acknowledged he’s “talked to several teams about possible trades” but said “at this point, nothing is imminent."
     



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    If you only mention sections of their stats you can make things sound good however you want. I could say they both average about 160 IP's per year in their career and Cole's career ERA is better (3.50 to 3.60). But the main thing is I'm saying Cole is a better pitcher now. Not what Gonzalez did almost 10 years ago (which is most of his good stuff). David Price could be in the discussion if we're talking their whole careers...but that's not what I'm referring to. I'm saying Cole should easily be the better pitcher now and for the next couple years.
     
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    I think it's good get for the Astros since they do need an ace pitcher
     
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    I just use all 8 full seasons that Gonzalez has had. Obviously using the averages for their careers and comparing them side by side doesn't make sense since Cole doesn't have half the innings Gonzalez does.

    Last year: 201 innings, 2.96 ERA
    Last two years: 189 innings average, 3.71 ERA
    Last three years: 185 innings average, 3.75 ERA
    Last four years: 178 innings average, 3.70 ERA
    Last five years: 182 innings average, 3.63 ERA
    Last six years: 185 innings average, 3.49 ERA
    Last seven years: 187 innings average, 3.44 ERA
    Last eight years: 189 innings average, 3.41 ERA

    You can use any section of stats and Gonzalez has done something over an extended period of time that Cole has not. Cole has shown nothing that demonstrates that he can sustain success over "the next couple years" so anything you say is an uneducated guess.
     
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    Welp looks like someone was early jumping the gun. He is not heading there right now.
     
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    Stros GM denying it
     
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    Jeff Passan reporting it was a false rumor. Usually they don't hit this far.
     
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    They already have two.
     
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    Is saying that what Gonzalez did almost 10 years ago isn't gonna help him right now just an "uneducated guess" too? I guess if what happened a long time ago makes you automatically still better right now than legends like Roger Clemens, John Smoltz, Greg Maddux, Sandy Koufax and those guys must still be better in 2018 than Gerrit Cole is in 2018 too?
     
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    Don't be disingenuous
     
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    Heyman saying this deal isnt even close, and that another team, not the Yankees, are now involved
     
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    Whose the other ace besides Verlander?
     
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    Keuchel pretty good
     
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    When you and I see the same tweets, I feel like we are together. I can see you looking at the tweet with me. Like two people on opposite sides of the country looking at the same star.
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    Keuchel
     
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    That guy Dallas Keuchel is a pretty good pitcher.
     
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    Im always amazed at the shit we took seriously as kids (at least me) that I look back now and laugh

    Like the scene you just posted, that was like a real dramatic moment in my life when Rocky and Apollo jumped in the water for no apparent reason
     
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    Or the fact that Rocky 4 is basically just a music video. And I could rewatch that more than any Rocky movie. It's great.
     
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    Soundtrack of my youth

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