Coffee Talk V: The Final Battle

[thedddd]

So this MTG case today.

Am I getting this correct? Her defense is essentially arguing that an insurrection would have been acceptable prior to Jan 3rd since she wasn't sworn in yet?

 

[forty_three]

Yeah, while I strongly disagree with virtually every word that comes out of their mouths, it's hard not to have a certain degree of...I don't know, respect feels kinda dirty, but the best word I can think of...for how successful they've been in rallying a large % of the population around several issues that should really be pretty insignificant.

I would be impressive if it was some evil masterplan to get Reagan to gut the fairness doctrine and to remove limits on the amount of media one person can own and influence just for the sole purpose of promoting an ideology. Truly would be the long game to make the world in your image.

But it was all simply about making more money. What we see is the consequence or a few greedy fucks like Murdoch, Sinclair and Turner who somehow determined that they needed more billions. They sold ideas to morons for ad dollars. And now those morons are treating it like a religion.

 

[forty_three]

Guns now leading cause of death among children and teenagers in US, data suggests

More people aged one to 19 died from gun-related injuries in 2020 than in vehicle crashes or drugs overdoses, according to analysis of federal data by researchers at the University of Michigan.

news.sky.com

 

[thedddd]

Holy shit we entered into some sort of weird bizzaro era if what Jenna Ellis said is a good point.

 

[thedddd]

BTW....here is the live feed of the MTG hearing

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Guns now leading cause of death among children and teenagers in US, data suggests

More people aged one to 19 died from gun-related injuries in 2020 than in vehicle crashes or drugs overdoses, according to analysis of federal data by researchers at the University of Michigan.

news.sky.com

Gang violence spiked during the pandemic, and whatever the cause it's obviously taking more young black men than it has since the 90s.

This was NYC's mayor last week:

'I thought Black lives mattered?' Mayor Eric Adams slams the activist movement over New York City crime

"He lacks efficiency and the ability to lead our city in a safer direction," said Hawk Newsome, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York.

www.politico.com

And he's right. No matter how wrong and how disgusting police-on-black crime is it pales in comparison to the rate at which black-on-black crime is committed and deadly violence is far more prevalent in the latter than the former.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Ottawa faces blowback for plan to regulate internet - The Globe and Mail

Twitter Canada called Ottawa’s proposal similar to actions employed by authoritarian states, documents reveal

www.theglobeandmail.com

Pretty damning that so many of the people against this are minority groups that the bill is supposedly designed to protect.

Given the amount of censoring Twitter does on a regular basis them being this critical of the legislation Trudeau’s almost certainly going to get through Parliament (thanks to the Jagmeet deal) speaks volumes, as does their comparisons.

 

[Comeds]

Gang violence spiked during the pandemic, and whatever the cause it's obviously taking more young black men than it has since the 90s.

This was NYC's mayor last week:

'I thought Black lives mattered?' Mayor Eric Adams slams the activist movement over New York City crime

"He lacks efficiency and the ability to lead our city in a safer direction," said Hawk Newsome, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York.

www.politico.com

And he's right. No matter how wrong and how disgusting police-on-black crime is it pales in comparison to the rate at which black-on-black crime is committed and deadly violence is far more prevalent in the latter than the former.

Well, but also if the police do their job without antagonizing, persecuting, or outright assaulting the population they are supposed to be policing then maybe the public has a different perception of them. Then maybe witnesses step forward, citizens cooperate, and juries are not so easily convinced of police corruption and maybe criminals actually get punished for the crimes they do instead of remaining free to do them over and over.

Then perhaps crime overall goes down.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Well, but also if the police do their job without antagonizing, persecuting, or outright assaulting the population they are supposed to be policing then maybe the public has a different perception of them. Then maybe witnesses step forward, citizens cooperate, and juries are not so easily convinced of police corruption and maybe criminals actually get punished for the crimes they do instead of remaining free to do them over and over.

Then perhaps crime overall goes down.

I obviously agree with your first part but I think the lack of cooperation boils down far more to intimidation by criminals and honestly I don’t know wtf you do about that. I don’t think there’s enough money in the world to adequately protect every witness.

 

[Comeds]

I obviously agree with your first part but I think the lack of cooperation boils down far more to intimidation by criminals and honestly I don’t know wtf you do about that. I don’t think there’s enough money in the world to adequately protect every witness.

I do not diagree, and in areas where criminals are not often successfully prosecuted why would they? The person they testify against will be on the street the next day.
But I have heard stories of witnesses coming forward and then being arrested for the crime. Whether because the officer actually thought they did it or because they just wanted to make an arrest (after all the person just admitted to being there) I do not know.

And the 'catch and release*' tactics Baltimore and some other cities have used to briefly play with numbers has destroyed almost any trust the community has in the police department - maybe even more so than violent incidences. Maybe not, but its close.

At least Baltimore never had a drug squad that thought they owned the city doing whatever they wanted whether skimming products/cash or planting things on people. Nope. HBO Monday @9



*grab a bunch of men from a street or corner and lock them up for the weekend getting them off the street. Release them 48 hours later saying they made a mistake if they sign a paper saying the officers did nothing wrong. If they dont sign then threaten resisting arrest charges

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I do not diagree, and in areas where criminals are not often successfully prosecuted why would they? The person they testify against will be on the street the next day.
But I have heard stories of witnesses coming forward and then being arrested for the crime. Whether because the officer actually thought they did it or because they just wanted to make an arrest (after all the person just admitted to being there) I do not know.

And the 'catch and release*' tactics Baltimore and some other cities have used to briefly play with numbers has destroyed almost any trust the community has in the police department - maybe even more so than violent incidences. Maybe not, but its close.

At least Baltimore never had a drug squad that thought they owned the city doing whatever they wanted whether skimming products/cash or planting things on people. Nope. HBO Monday @9



*grab a bunch of men from a street or corner and lock them up for the weekend getting them off the street. Release them 48 hours later saying they made a mistake if they sign a paper saying the officers did nothing wrong. If they dont sign then threaten resisting arrest charges

Aside from the policing problems mentioned here I’m guessing the prosecutors offices down there are a lot like the ones here, which is to say they’re completely overwhelmed with cases and staffed by a lot of bad lawyers. That doesn’t help.

 

[Comeds]

Aside from the policing problems mentioned here I’m guessing the prosecutors offices down there are a lot like the ones here, which is to say they’re completely overwhelmed with cases and staffed by a lot of bad lawyers. That doesn’t help.

Lol the states attorney here is under federal charges

 

[forty_three]

So this MTG case today.

Am I getting this correct? Her defense is essentially arguing that an insurrection would have been acceptable prior to Jan 3rd since she wasn't sworn in yet?

This is an actual screen capture of the Judge:

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

This is an actual screen capture of the Judge:

This is one of the greatest stills I've ever seen. If only her face were a little clearer.

 

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This is an actual screen capture of the Judge:

It would have been better if he would have left the cat filter on

 

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So all I got out of the MTG highlights from earlier today is in order not to lie under oath, just say "I don't remember" or "I don't recall"

 

[thedddd]

 

[thedddd]

 

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Can we start referring to him as Dolly Madison?

 

[thedddd]

Can we start referring to him as Dolly Madison?

That deserves a LOL and winner!