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I wanted to look up news/info about the dewormer and sterilization and the suggested related questions list from Google cracked me up. Who the hell is out there asking these questions?!? hahahaha.


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Is it good to take worm medicine during pregnancy?
 

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To be fair, it's not "sterilizing" them per se. It's lowering their counts and mutating their DNA even more than their family tree being a stick did. So there will be lots of birth defects.

We'll have to wait for them for suck face with the pit vipers for the full sterilization, I guess.
 

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To be fair, it's not "sterilizing" them per se. It's lowering their counts and mutating their DNA even more than their family tree being a stick did. So there will be lots of birth defects.

We'll have to wait for them for suck face with the pit vipers for the full sterilization, I guess.

So if you take Ivermectin and wear briefs instead of boxers, it's essentially a vasectomy.
 

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So if you take Ivermectin and wear briefs instead of boxers, it's essentially a vasectomy.
Typical story with this and challenges for women.

My Health Insurance will approve a vasectomy with no issue for me.
But my wife had to get a hysterectomy for health reasons and her Dr had to fight to get it approved as they considered this elective surgery. :L

Just recently, a wife's close friend needed to end a pregnancy due to the issues found with the Genetic testing. The OBGYN office she went to all the Dr's refused to do this surgery even though they all recommended her to have this Genetic testing done since she was older than 35. So she had to find a Dr that would do the surgery and due to timing is past the approved time to have the procedure done. :L
 

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Typical story with this and challenges for women.

My Health Insurance will approve a vasectomy with no issue for me.
But my wife had to get a hysterectomy for health reasons and her Dr had to fight to get it approved as they considered this elective surgery. :L

Just recently, a wife's close friend needed to end a pregnancy due to the issues found with the Genetic testing. The OBGYN office she went to all the Dr's refused to do this surgery even though they all recommended her to have this Genetic testing done since she was older than 35. So she had to find a Dr that would do the surgery and due to timing is past the approved time to have the procedure done. :L

Man, that just sounds so wrong, but based on other health care stories I have heard from other people in the US, not surprising.
 

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Man, that just sounds so wrong, but based on other health care stories I have heard from other people in the US, not surprising.
Oh that is typical. And on top of the fact women's health vs men's health and who gets to decide.
 

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Typical story with this and challenges for women.

My Health Insurance will approve a vasectomy with no issue for me.
But my wife had to get a hysterectomy for health reasons and her Dr had to fight to get it approved as they considered this elective surgery. :L

Just recently, a wife's close friend needed to end a pregnancy due to the issues found with the Genetic testing. The OBGYN office she went to all the Dr's refused to do this surgery even though they all recommended her to have this Genetic testing done since she was older than 35. So she had to find a Dr that would do the surgery and due to timing is past the approved time to have the procedure done. :L

That's pretty terrible all around... which is exactly what our health care system is. High costs, mediocre results, and in need of a total overhaul.
 

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That's pretty terrible all around... which is exactly what our health care system is. High costs, mediocre results, and in need of a total overhaul.
Don't even get me started if you are a type 1 diabetic.
The insulin my son needs to survive that you literally can't control how much you will use in a given day or month, the Health Insurance companies put a cap on how much you can receive via the insurance place per month. So if there is a month he goes outside his max we have to go to the pharmacy and order out of pocket.
 

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Don't even get me started if you are a type 1 diabetic.
The insulin my son needs to survive that you literally can't control how much you will use in a given day or month, the Health Insurance companies put a cap on how much you can receive via the insurance place per month. So if there is a month he goes outside his max we have to go to the pharmacy and order out of pocket.

"But if we change our system, it will ruin the economy" say people with good healthcare ignoring all the countries that pay less and get better results than we do and don't have ruined economies. Sorry to hear that, @thedddd . Very frustrating.
 

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Don't even get me started if you are a type 1 diabetic.
The insulin my son needs to survive that you literally can't control how much you will use in a given day or month, the Health Insurance companies put a cap on how much you can receive via the insurance place per month. So if there is a month he goes outside his max we have to go to the pharmacy and order out of pocket.
Especially evil when you consider the docs that discovered it sold the patent for one dollar so it would be affordable to everyone who needed it.
 

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"But if we change our system, it will ruin the economy" say people with good healthcare ignoring all the countries that pay less and get better results than we do and don't have ruined economies. Sorry to hear that, @thedddd . Very frustrating.
If you look at the top 10 companies in the fortune 500: Walmart, CVS Health, UnitedHealth Group, McKesson and Amerisource Bergen (half the top 10) all directly benefit from the current healthcare system. You can argue Amazon, Apple and Alphabet indirectly benefit from it also with the tools those companies offer that the Healthcare industry use on a day to day basis.
 
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Especially evil when you consider the docs that discovered it sold the patent for one dollar so it would be affordable to everyone who needed it.
Even worse is companies like McKesson, Amerisource Bergen and Cardinal that distribute the insulin, actually throw away millions of dollars of it each year due to it expiring before being used.
 

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Honestly, I want the US to get a more universal health system just so dumb Canadians can stop saying “well at least our healthcare is better than in the US” while pleasantly ignoring that our healthcare kinda fucking sucks.

It’s as if these people don’t understand there’s a bar set higher for modern nations than just our neighbour to the south. Pull that option away and people might actually get serious about it.
 

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Honestly, I want the US to get a more universal health system just so dumb Canadians can stop saying “well at least our healthcare is better than in the US” while pleasantly ignoring that our healthcare kinda fucking sucks.

It’s as if these people don’t understand there’s a bar set higher for modern nations than just our neighbour to the south. Pull that option away and people might actually get serious about it.

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...if you haven't traveled a lot." -Daniel Tosh
 

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Honestly, I want the US to get a more universal health system just so dumb Canadians can stop saying “well at least our healthcare is better than in the US” while pleasantly ignoring that our healthcare kinda fucking sucks.

It’s as if these people don’t understand there’s a bar set higher for modern nations than just our neighbour to the south. Pull that option away and people might actually get serious about it.

The thing is healthcare is getting worse, not better in Canada and I don't see that changing. They're cutting costs everywhere they can and unless people are willing to pony up (i.e. higher taxes) to make services better, it's going to be tough just to maintain the status quo.
 

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The thing is healthcare is getting worse, not better in Canada and I don't see that changing. They're cutting costs everywhere they can and unless people are willing to pony up (i.e. higher taxes) to make services better, it's going to be tough just to maintain the status quo.
I wish people were piling on Trudeau more for not continuing or increasing the 6% escalator for healthcare transfers to provinces that Harper had (FTR Harper had already planned to bring that number back down to 3% and Trudeau just kept it at that, but Harper did hike it to 6% for a while).

We aren’t building hospitals to keep up with massive population growth in urban centers, we aren’t paying better wages to keep more doctors from heading south, we aren’t buying new equipment and hiring more techs to reduce wait times, thanks to Covid our nurses are literally just walking off jobs, wait times to see specialists are ridiculous, no universal dental or pharma…

For what we pay we are grossly under served.
 
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