Chris Phillips and Mike Fisher are on the market

[pixburgher66]

They have a trade machine! So cool!
CapGeek.com :: It's a numbers game :: Trade Machine

 

[flyersfan4706]

lol Momma has been snipped, so Daddy is free to fire at will. :p

Oh my fucking God I didn't need to read that.

 

[Urkie]

I was just thinking that Detroit may now be a possible destination for Chris Phillips with Stuart out long term.

What would you Wings fans trade for Phillips?

 

[devs30rko]

really woulnd't mind seeing carrie underwood at devils games.

 

[Urkie]

really woulnd't mind seeing carrie underwood at devils games.

LOL...yeah it's pretty awesome!

 

[Urkie]

The Sens are going to cut their losses and shed serious salary according to Bruce Garrioch. Yeah, he's not exactly reliable all the time but I think he makes some sense in this article.

Senators ready to cut bait | Hockey | Sports | Ottawa Sun

On the market:

Jarkko Ruutu
Chris Phillips
Alex Kovalev
Filip Kuba
Brian Lee

 

[pixburgher66]

The Sens are going to cut their losses and shed serious salary according to Bruce Garrioch. Yeah, he's not exactly reliable all the time but I think he makes some sense in this article.

Senators ready to cut bait | Hockey | Sports | Ottawa Sun

On the market:

Jarkko Ruutu
Chris Phillips
Alex Kovalev
Filip Kuba
Brian Lee

I have trouble finding a suitor for a few of those guys...not sure how many GMs are going to WANT to bring Ruutu in knowing the baggage he can bring along. Kovy is tempting, but he just seems lazy and unmotivated anymore. There's a small portion (my 8 year-old self that loved the man) of me that really is tempted to vote for Kovy to Pitt...but I just can't see it happening. Not dedicated enough to work in Pens system.

 

[Urkie]

I have trouble finding a suitor for a few of those guys...not sure how many GMs are going to WANT to bring Ruutu in knowing the baggage he can bring along. Kovy is tempting, but he just seems lazy and unmotivated anymore. There's a small portion (my 8 year-old self that loved the man) of me that really is tempted to vote for Kovy to Pitt...but I just can't see it happening. Not dedicated enough to work in Pens system.

I've already talked about how tough it will be to move Kovy. I think somebody will take Ruutu though and Phillips will probably be moved.

As for Kuba and Lee? Kuba might draw some interest but another year on his deal makes him tough to move I think. Lee might as well just keep on playing. There's no sense in trading him just for the sake of trading him.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

The Sens are going to cut their losses and shed serious salary according to Bruce Garrioch. Yeah, he's not exactly reliable all the time but I think he makes some sense in this article.

Senators ready to cut bait | Hockey | Sports | Ottawa Sun

On the market:

Jarkko Ruutu
Chris Phillips
Alex Kovalev
Filip Kuba
Brian Lee

Lee already cleared waivers once. I don't think he has much value.

Kuba is coming off an injury. Kovalev is out for a week. Phillips is making a lot of money, but at least he'll be an UFA at the end of the year. So he could be a bit easier to trade.

 

[Urkie]

Lee already cleared waivers once. I don't think he has much value.

Kuba is coming off an injury. Kovalev is out for a week. Phillips is making a lot of money, but at least he'll be an UFA at the end of the year. So he could be a bit easier to trade.

Yeah, Lee doesn't have much value at all but he's really not that bad of a player. If he was given a chance then I think he'd develop into a bottom pairing defensemen. Potentially a 3/4 guy but he's never been given that opportunity. I feel like he should stick around though.

Kuba has struggled mightily this year and I really don't think anyone is going to want him. My prediction is that he might get bought out this summer.

Kovalev is just a cancer to any team and this year he has been absolute garbage. He's played one good game all season pretty much and he's been battling injuries in recent years. He's just too much of a risk and he's expensive.

Phillips is probably fairly easy to move as long as he is willing to waive his NTC. But he's the kind of defensemen that gets you over the top if you're a contender. He's just as steady as they come. On a good team he'd do a lot better then he has on the Sens this year.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

I was just thinking that Detroit may now be a possible destination for Chris Phillips with Stuart out long term.

What would you Wings fans trade for Phillips?

Jonathon Ericsson and a doughnut!

 

[forty_three]

I was just thinking that Detroit may now be a possible destination for Chris Phillips with Stuart out long term.

What would you Wings fans trade for Phillips?

They would give up a bag of pucks for him.

Because that's all they have to. Murray has once again painted himself into a corner.

And Fisher will wind up in either Nashville or LA. Carrie Fisher has houses in both places. One way or the other he will not be away from her for that long. Even if he is traded somewhere else, he'll get there. You pretty much saw it coming when he announced his engagement.

Natch, I would love to see both in Columbus. And with Commie having fallen out of favor and Klesla a bit resurgent but still not fitting in... I'd love Phillips here. Too lazy to see what the Klesla for Phillips salary crunch looks like, but each guy fills the need for the opposite team. Cbus has tons of mobile guys and no one to punish incoming forwards, and it seems coach Arniel can only manage one kind of guy - the quiet, compliant type. The Sens need a guy who can TRULY run a power play. And skate backwards.

Howson and Murray are both on the hot seat, so it could be a perfect storm.

 

[Urkie]

Jonathon Ericsson and a doughnut!

LOL...I'll just take the doughnut and call it a deal.

Ericsson has been a bit disappointing this year. I've seen enough of him to know.

I'll gladly take a 1st round pick though or a 2nd round pick and forward prospect.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

LOL...I'll just take the doughnut and call it a deal.

Ericsson has been a bit disappointing this year. I've seen enough of him to know.

I'll gladly take a 1st round pick though or a 2nd round pick and forward prospect.

Maybe, but he's big and young and Swedish! Hakan Anderson found him! You want the Ericsson...

Something about the magic of Holland's drafting makes me more interested in waiting the nine years for that 1rst round pick to finally make the team than one post season of Chris Phillips.

I like the guy, I think at this point it's more of a cap issue. When the Wings get healthy, I believe they will have to waive someone or send them to the minors just to get under.

Phillips has a 3.5M cap hit... the Wings would have to trade Filpulla, or Cleary + just to make that happen.

 

[Urkie]

They would give up a bag of pucks for him.

Because that's all they have to. Murray has once again painted himself into a corner.

And Fisher will wind up in either Nashville or LA. Carrie Fisher has houses in both places. One way or the other he will not be away from her for that long. Even if he is traded somewhere else, he'll get there. You pretty much saw it coming when he announced his engagement.

Natch, I would love to see both in Columbus. And with Commie having fallen out of favor and Klesla a bit resurgent but still not fitting in... I'd love Phillips here. Too lazy to see what the Klesla for Phillips salary crunch looks like, but each guy fills the need for the opposite team. Cbus has tons of mobile guys and no one to punish incoming forwards, and it seems coach Arniel can only manage one kind of guy - the quiet, compliant type. The Sens need a guy who can TRULY run a power play. And skate backwards.

Howson and Murray are both on the hot seat, so it could be a perfect storm.

Isn't it amazing though forty? It look like the Sens are going to lose the last remnant of what was once the best defense in the entire league or close to it anyway.

Phillips for Klesla would be a mistake however. The team just needs to start adding draft picks and prospects like crazy for the next 2 or 3 years.

 

[Urkie]

Maybe, but he's big and young and Swedish! Hakan Anderson found him! You want the Ericsson...

Something about the magic of Holland's drafting makes me more interested in waiting the nine years for that 1rst round pick to finally make the team than one post season of Chris Phillips.

I like the guy, I think at this point it's more of a cap issue. When the Wings get healthy, I believe they will have to waive someone or send them to the minors just to get under.

Phillips has a 3.5M cap hit... the Wings would have to trade Filpulla, or Cleary + just to make that happen.

He might be a good partner for Karlsson but I don't know...

The good thing is that cap hits go down as the season goes on. So if you acquire Phillips in a month then he would only be 1 or 1.5 cap hit.

That was put in place to encourage more trading at the trade deadline. So it would be possible for the Wings to fit him in but it's something that would have to be done closer to or on trade deadline day.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Phillips for Klesla would be a mistake however. The team just needs to start adding draft picks and prospects like crazy for the next 2 or 3 years.

I agree with this but the team could easily be competitive next year. Not a contender but a potential playoff team in the weak Eastern Conference.

If Lehner and Elliott make up the goaltending duo and one or two of Cowen, Gryba, Wiercioch or Rundblad make the big club nest year, they will have a ton of money to spend. As it stands right now, more than $14M is coming off of the books this summer. Not easy to do, but if that cap space is managed properly they could be pretty good.

If Spezza can play half decent again, I think they could be a 6-8 seed next year. That's a lot of IFS but it's not out of the question.

That being said they need to let this group of very good D-men prospects develop and stockpile picks and let a contender develop from within.

 

[Urkie]

I agree with this but the team could easily be competitive next year. Not a contender but a potential playoff team in the weak Eastern Conference.

If Lehner and Elliott make up the goaltending duo and one or two of Cowen, Gryba, Wiercioch or Rundblad make the big club nest year, they will have a ton of money to spend. As it stands right now, more than $14M is coming off of the books this summer. Not easy to do, but if that cap space is managed properly they could be pretty good.

If Spezza can play half decent again, I think they could be a 6-8 seed next year. That's a lot of IFS but it's not out of the question.

That being said they need to let this group of very good D-men prospects develop and stockpile picks and let a contender develop from within.

The thing that I'm worried about is the fact that defensemen always take a little longer to develop then forwards. Look at Marc Staal now compared to when he came into the league for example. That could be Jared Cowen in about 4 or 5 years. But next year he probably won't be able to play at the level we need.

Rundblad too for that matter. He's going to have to go through some kind of adjustment period.

Karlsson is rare in that he pretty much stepped in and contributed immediately. He's still going through some growing pains though and he'll take another 2 or 3 years to iron those out.

What also worries me is the lack of scoring. What I see is too many IFS and question marks. That's what makes me think next year will be another bad one.