Checking in with Michael Kopech and Yoann Moncada

[richig07]

I just find exit velocity a stupid "stat" that's all. Obviously if you hit it hard the chances of you getting a hit are greater!

It's a stat which measures the chances of getting a hit then. Which is not stupid. Thanks.

 

[redseat]

It's a stat which measures the chances of getting a hit then. Which is not stupid. Thanks.

to me it's a gloried tv "ploy".. It only started getting shown what the last 2 years?

 

[richig07]

to me it's a gloried tv "ploy".. It only started getting shown what the last 2 years?

That's because statcast was only put into all MLB stadiums over the past two years.

However, it's been used by scouts for a very, very long time. I was going to showcases as a young player in the 00's and they were using it.

I couldn't think of a more valuable stat for measuring how well a hitter is executing at the plate. lol. It's as valuable of a stat as hard contact allowed by a pitcher or swings/misses. I'll say again - you have to be extremely dense not to acknowledge the value.

 

[redseat]

That's because statcast was only put into all MLB stadiums over the past two years.

However, it's been used by scouts for a very, very long time. I was going to showcases as a young player in the 00's and they were using it.

I couldn't think of a more valuable stat for measuring how well a hitter is executing at the plate. lol. It's as valuable of a stat as hard contact allowed by a pitcher or swings/misses. I'll say again - you have to be extremely dense not to acknowledge the value.

to me it's like saying, "the more you swing, the greater the chance you have to get a hit" duuuuuuuuuh

 

[navamind]

as I said before to me it;s a pointless espn stat. I get where you two are coming from but I'll take the tradition numbers as indicators of the quality of a player. Haha/// He might, he just might

that's not a "pointless ESPN stat". Statcast is a system created by MLB and is in every single stadium.

Statcast - Wikipedia

 

[navamind]

That's because statcast was only put into all MLB stadiums over the past two years.

However, it's been used by scouts for a very, very long time. I was going to showcases as a young player in the 00's and they were using it.

I couldn't think of a more valuable stat for measuring how well a hitter is executing at the plate. lol. It's as valuable of a stat as hard contact allowed by a pitcher or swings/misses. I'll say again - you have to be extremely dense not to acknowledge the value.

seriously, PitchF/X has been around forever. The baserunning/exit velocity/etc. stats are still pretty new.

 

[navamind]

and just for shits and giggles, Moncada's wRC+ (114) is pretty much in line with Pedroia's career average (116).

 

[obxyankeefan]

This is all nice but does not tell me how Jason Groome is doing.

 

[navamind]

This is all nice but does not tell me how Jason Groome is doing.

Still more durable than Joba Chamberlain.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Still more durable than Joba Chamberlain.

I was being serious this time. I have him in a fantasy league. The site doesn't show MiLB stats and I am too lazy to look them up.

So I am guessing from your answer he is injured.

 

[richig07]

seriously, PitchF/X has been around forever. The baserunning/exit velocity/etc. stats are still pretty new.

They're newly available to fans on a consistent basis. Scouts have been gunning exit velo for quite some time.

 

[navamind]

Yoan Moncada’s Approach Is Actually Working | FanGraphs Baseball

 

[richig07]

Yoan Moncada’s Approach Is Actually Working | FanGraphs Baseball

Moncada 3 for 5 with ANOTHER HR to follow up his cycle bid a couple days ago.

Up to .264/.360/.563 (OPS of .922) 6 HR's 12 RBI's (out of the lead-off spot)

9 for his last 19 with 3 HR's this week

Could be an all-star and notch 30 HR/30 SB if it's finally clicked

Oh, and...

Turk: Does Moncada have bad plate discipline, or just bad bat to ball skills?

Kiley McDaniel: Pitch selection is fine, most of what he does is well above average. Bat control is below average.

This x10. Moncada is extremely patient. Which is why he also walks a good deal. He doesn't often swing at bad pitches. He swings through good ones. Which can be frustrating, but the results are beginning to come.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Moncada becoming a star

Koepech blowing hitter away

If the Sox don't win one with Sale, this trade could look ugly soon

 

[Rock Strongo]

because hard contact is more likely to result in hits and home runs?

we all know if Moncada was still in Boston, rock would be telling us he's still only 22 and it's way too early to declare him a bust. lmao.

no. i never liked him. the sketchy "drug test" he took 2 months to pass before he came here.
the twinkie addiction.
blowing thru his money on a lot of cars? a custom car guy had to tell him no.

 

[Rock Strongo]

kopech in AAA

12 starts
2-4
4.70 ERA (lg avg is 5.01)
1.348 WHIP

59 IP
46 H
31 ER
34 walks
80 k's

moncada, Whitesox

.232/.304/.421 .725
9 HR
23 RBI
12 doubles
31 runs

now in 111 games for chicago:

.232/.320/.417 .737
17 HR
45 RBI
20 doubles
99 hits
62 runs

 

[DragonfromTO]

to me it's like saying, "the more you swing, the greater the chance you have to get a hit" duuuuuuuuuh

I remember seeing Edgar Martinez watch 5 pitches go by before hitting the 6th off the top of the wall in LF. It's not about how much you swing

 

[Yam]

Moncada is a five tool monster. He will be fine.

 

[Rock Strongo]

moncada as of today:

leads MLB in k's with 163 in 106 games.
49 walks

.218/.300/.390 .690 OPS

20 2B
14 HR
45 RBI

kopech (AAA)

22 starts
5-7
4.05 ERA (league avg is 4.53)
1.315 WHIP
113 IP
89 hits
51 ER
60 BB
152 k's

 

[podsox]

moncada as of today:

leads MLB in k's with 163 in 106 games.
49 walks

.218/.300/.390 .690 OPS

20 2B
14 HR
45 RBI

kopech (AAA)

22 starts
5-7
4.05 ERA (league avg is 4.53)
1.315 WHIP
113 IP
89 hits
51 ER
60 BB
152 k's

Moncada is a very dumb baseball player and soft as shit but it is obvious that he has the tools to be a all star in the league.