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Chargers or Raiders to NFC?

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Hey, Gang,

I realize we're all very excited about the season that is just weeks in front of us. I am as much as anyone. This may seem like the kind of conversation to have sometime in late May-early July to get us through those long hot summer football-less days (especially for those of us who are Rockies fans and have no reason to be excited about baseball season save the love of the game itself), but this is a subject that has the potential to really shake up the landscape in the AFC and NFC West.

It's no secret the league is entertaining proposals to relocate teams to Los Angeles. Right now the candidates are the Rams, the Raiders, and the Chargers, each having played under the Los Angeles moniker in their past. Now the Rams seem to be the favorite. Despite St. Louis showing some solid progress on its proposal to build a river front stadium, Kroenke seems dead set on returning the Rams to their rightful city. Meanwhile the Raiders and Chargers are both interested in relocating but lack the resources to go it alone. Thus an interesting pairing of bedfellows has formed: The Raiders and Chargers, longtime AFC West rivals, are looking at moving in together. And here's where it really gets interesting: The league won't allow division rivals to shack up. Someone is going to have to move to the NFC and an NFC West team is going to have to agree to move over to the AFC.

Let's consider some scenarios.

1: All three teams move to Los Angeles: The Rams would likely be the team to move to the AFC West as a condition of the owners approving their relocation. This allows the Raiders and Chargers to develop their project and between them decide who's going to the NFC. But the league isn't going to allow all three teams to move.

2: Rams and Raiders or Chargers move to Los Angeles: No realignment required. In this scenario the league would likely require Kroenke to agree to taking on a roommate as a condition of approving the Rams relocation. Since it would be an NFC and AFC team sharing the stadium the realignment is not required.

3: Rams remain in St. Louis, Raiders and Chargers move to Los Angeles: This would require a realignment. And here's where it gets really interesting. One of the Raiders or Chargers would be leaving the AFC West and one of the NFC West teams would be moving in. If this is the scenario that happens, here's what I'd like to see:

Chargers to NFC West, Cardinals to AFC West. Here's why this is the most logical option:

The Chargers are the least of the AFC West teams. Sure they're better than the Raiders, but they lack the history and more importantly the Super Bowl wins the Raiders do. I believe the teams with the Super Bowl wins should have the option of remaining in the conference they were in at the time they won. Then add to it the AFC West is really a three-way rivalry among the Raiders-Chiefs-Broncos with the Chargers being essentially an "also ran" getting an honorable mention only because they've been a solid team for 10+ years now. The league would be wise to break up the least impactful AFC West rivalries and that means the Chargers are the logical choice.

The Cardinals to the AFC West follows very similar logic. They're the only team in that division that has not won a Super Bowl. At first glance, one may want the Seahawks back, and had they not won a Super Bowl they'd be an obvious choice. Also, you can forget Kroenke being willing to help the league's realignment plan if he doesn't get his move to Los Angeles approved. As for the 49ers, you're just not going to move that team out of the NFC. Get that idea out of your head right now and never let it back in. That leaves the Cards, who at this time would be a really solid addition to the AFC West.

What say the Broncos fans?
 

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My ultimate scenario plays out like this:

AFC West

Denver Broncos
Seattle Seahawks
Oakland Raiders
Kansas City Chiefs



The Raiders stay in Oakland - I would actually hate losing the Raiders to the NFC or another division in the AFC ..... Although it has suffered somewhat over the past decade, the Broncos / Raiders rivalry is, IMHO, one of the best in any sport ...

As a Bronco fan, I really miss Al Davis - he was a pioneer, someone I had respect for, and the ultimate bad guy - I loved him

I don't want to see the Raiders taken out of the picture
 

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Yep, I agree this is something that hasn't crossed my mind. As you said, I seriously doubt 3 teams will go to LA. Honestly, I'd be surprised if more than one team goes. But if it were to happen as you say with SD and Oakland, I agree with you that Oakland stays put and San Diego moves to the NFC. But I think Seattle would come back home in this scenario. I know it erases all the "work" that teams have done to build a rivalry with them (San Fran was turning out to be solid, but if the 9ers decline, how would that affect any momentum the two teams had built over the past few years?)

I think Seattle comes back and makes for a better rivalry than San Diego (although, I'd still hate Phillip Rivers' punk-a$$). Outside of him, though, it's tough for me to hate on the Bolts. Although, I still take every shot I can at Manti Teo's girlfriend and it never gets old.
 

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To me anyway, it looks like St Louis has the best chance of coming to LA and both SD and Raiders will not be going anywhere just yet.
 

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My own personal bias wants the rams to stay in St. Louis on the condition that they go to the AFC West. This would allow me to see the broncos live a couple times a year.
 

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Yeah:) Really though it makes a lot of since for Rams to get to west coast and stay in NFC West.Travel expenses.
 

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To me anyway, it looks like St Louis has the best chance of coming to LA and both SD and Raiders will not be going anywhere just yet.
Do I have to keep agreeing with you today?!

This is what I see as well.
 

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Yes! It's a nice change of pace for me. Don't stop. :)
 

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My own personal bias wants the rams to stay in St. Louis on the condition that they go to the AFC West. This would allow me to see the broncos live a couple times a year.

Considering how poorly the Broncos have played in St. Louis in their history, no thank you!
 

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As a person who attended the Rams/Broncos game last year. :gaah::gaah::gaah:
 

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If the Raiders and Chargers do move to LA together, it better be the Chargers going to the NFC. Too much history between the Broncos, Raiders, and Chiefs to ever split that up.

I'd be fine with either the Seahawks or Cardinals coming over to join the AFC West. The Seahawks already have a history in the division and I think could really develop a good rivalry with the Broncos. The Cardinals though don't really have any in division rivals, and they're a little closer in proximity to the Broncos, so I think that move would make sense as well.
 

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Location wise the Chiefs really make the most sense to move, but I don't believe that is an option in anyone's eyes. :) I hate them too much to get them out of our division.
 

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As a person who attended the Rams/Broncos game last year. :gaah::gaah::gaah:

Me too. My wife and I made the trek across Missouri to go to the game, and even took our 1 and a half year old daughter with us. I swear there were more Broncos fans at the game then Rams fans, and we were just dying for the Broncos to give us something to cheer about. Sadly, they never did. My daughter sure had fun though.
 

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Yeah- No doubt my Bronco fans there then Rams fans.

I will never forget the obnoxious Rams fans above me who kept talking crap about Denver trying to be sneaky like they wanted me to hear it but didn't want me to think it was directed at me. Put my ignore cap on. :)

"When was the last time the Broncos won a Super Bowl"

Hard to bite the lip but I did when your franchise is on the verge of moving and not exactly one of the better historic franchises of the NFL.

Just a random memory there.
 

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Yeah- No doubt my Bronco fans there then Rams fans.

I will never forget the obnoxious Rams fans above me who kept talking crap about Denver trying to be sneaky like they wanted me to hear it but didn't want me to think it was directed at me. Put my ignore cap on. :)

"When was the last time the Broncos won a Super Bowl"

Hard to bite the lip but I did when your franchise is on the verge of moving and not exactly one of the better historic franchises of the NFL.

Just a random memory there.
You should have asked him if his city is so magnificent, why does his team's owner choose to live in Denver?!
 

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I had to play nice to St. Louis fans beings I am a Cardinals fan. We are together during baseball season.

Had it been another city I wouldn't bite my lip.
 

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I was also at the broncos-rams game last year. That was a tough game to around for. Made the chiefs game sweeter though.

I wonder what the odds are of musical chairs. Could we see the chargers or aiders come to St. Louis? The state and city (politicians) want a team here, I just don't think Kroenke is as committed.
 

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I was also at the broncos-rams game last year. That was a tough game to around for. Made the chiefs game sweeter though.

I wonder what the odds are of musical chairs. Could we see the chargers or aiders come to St. Louis? The state and city (politicians) want a team here, I just don't think Kroenke is as committed.

Kroenke wants to go where the money is. He has always shown money comes first when it comes to every business decision he makes. It is why I really hope the Broncos never sell to him. I think he has said in the past he would sell the Rams if the Broncos ever became available. CAn't remember though if he can own two teams in the same city or not.
 

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Kroenke wants to go where the money is. He has always shown money comes first when it comes to every business decision he makes. It is why I really hope the Broncos never sell to him. I think he has said in the past he would sell the Rams if the Broncos ever became available. CAn't remember though if he can own two teams in the same city or not.
Informally that would be three. He owns the Nuggets and Avs, but the Nuggets are in his son Josh's name.
 
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