Change?

[Brasky]

Not true. Mark would tell you it's part of the process and he would win regardless of 'stars' or 'misses'. Furthermore Mark would get in your face and yell and scream that he could win anywhere because he knows how to coach defense. Mark will never admit he screwed up or failed...

Please change PJ Smith to starter/miss.....

That's the Pelini coaching hubris I talked about.

Which goes back to hiring someone to hold Pelini accountable. Yeah right. Not in this lifetime or the next.

 

[chucksker]

I keep going back over this game in my head though guys, and I'm really starting to lean towards putting as much blame on Taylor as I am on the Defense.

And before I explain why, let me just say that I like Taylor Martinez a lot. He works his ass off to help this team win.....he knows he's not playing QB at the next level, yet he is still taking the time and spending the money to get better in the off-season.

Taylor gift wrapped 21 points for Ohio State.............and they actually scored 28 off of his turnovers. Forcing these passes into tight places, holding onto the ball too long, trying to make something out of nothing 99% of the time.........it just leads to bad things. Especially when you're doing it deep in your own territory. It puts our Defense's back against the wall.

On top of this, our Special Teams gave up a punt return for a TD......

That's 35 points that shouldn't happen as long as you execute like an FBS school is expected to do.

i fully disagree with this.
#1 Taylor was playing behind an OL that played easily its worst game of the season, and one of the worst games since Taylor has been the starter. the way they were getting beat by just a simple 4 man front in 1-3 seconds was horrific.
#2 Burkhead went out...and i know i know "we have a great stable of backs and he already wasn't 100% so missing him wasn't THAT big a deal"...yes it is, its rex freaking burkhead, him out is a HUGE deal no matter what the circumstance
#3 the reason he was trying to force things out of nothing and do to much is because he probably knew he would have to score damn near every possession because of his shitty defense. think about it, if you were back there during that game wouldn't you feel the need to score every time or can you seriously tell me you would have the confidence in the D that they could get some stops?
#4 yeah he played a pretty horrific game overall, but if you ask me, when you evaluate the situation he was in from an overall point of view, i think the blame between him and the defense should go about 50% D's fault 40% OL's fault 10% Taylor's fault

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

All 3 of Taylor's interceptions came on plays where he had no pressure.........

All 3 resulted in TD's.......

Jeeesssst sayin.....

 

[chucksker]

I can guarantee with 100 percent certainty that not one single Husker fan on this board will watch the Huskers play this week.

.....i plan on watching a recording of this past weekend's game.....:charlie:

 

[chucksker]

All 3 of Taylor's interceptions came on plays where he had no pressure.........

All 3 resulted in TD's.......

Jeeesssst sayin.....

and which quarters did they come in? and what was the score at the time of each of them? im pretty sure we were down at the time of all but the 1st one and im pretty sure the last one was late in the 3rd quarter when the wheels were falling off very very quickly

 

[huskers1217]

the 2nd one was the game changer..

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Nebraska was tied 0-0 at the time of the first pick 6........

Nebraska was leading 17-14 at the time of the second interception.......which gave them the ball on our 20 yard line.

Nebraska was going in to cut the lead to 10 points on his 3rd interception which was in the middle of the 3rd quarter.

 

[NE1tm2nv]

I am not the one claiming players that are not playing are definitely better than the ones that are!!!! Yeah I believe that Heard is the best RB we have but I am not trying to say that he should start over Burkhead or Abdullah. I was simply saying, since you are too dumb to comprehend, that Bo doesn't treat players equally. Turner gets benched because he does not consistently catch passes. That is something that he himself and other coaches on the staff said. Yet we can watch games and consistently see Kinnie drop tons of passes but never get benched!!!! I never said a damn word about practice or any of that bullshit.

IMHO---I believe this to be true to an extent. Bo will play players with the knowledge of the scheme over athleticism. La Vonte was the exception after a period of time. I remember a game where David lit up the tackle numbers and reporters where all La Vonte this La Vonte that. Bo's next comment;(sternly) believe me La Vonte David made plenty of mistakes out there, he's got a long way to go. He didn't praise La Vonte for busting his ass that day, Bo just saw mistakes. How many time's have we heard the phrase "He's swimming in it", which means he doesn't grasp the concept, although he may be a play maker the kid doesn't get it nor will he see the field for that reason.
Austin Cassidy for example: How many times did he get burned, but remained on the field. Not to pick on Austin, but I thought we had better athlete's who could do a better job. Eric Martin would be another prime example. The kid's a play maker but rarely on the field prior to this year.
Hope all that babble makes sense. Sometimes I'm not very good at explaining what I mean.
Again this is just my opinion.

 

[huskers1217]

take away the long run...rex had 13 carries for 46 yards.

 

[iruletheskool]

Ye cant just take out outlyers tho.. they are part of the stats

 

[iruletheskool]

Oh God, if everyone wasnt injured, idk if lavonte woulda played..

 

[chucksker]

Nebraska was tied 0-0 at the time of the first pick 6........

Nebraska was leading 17-14 at the time of the second interception.......which gave them the ball on our 20 yard line.

Nebraska was going in to cut the lead to 10 points on his 3rd interception which was in the middle of the 3rd quarter.

first one is obviously bad. 2nd one is also bad. 3rd one....i have trouble reading that "nebraska was going to" part of the sentence...what makes you believe that they were going to score? football is a game of individual plays that make up the outcome. so had that pass been completed it would have been first and goal at like the 9 yard line right? Whats to say that tOSU doesn't get a strip sack on the next play? i realize this is far from my original point but it is something that bothers me when lines like that are said, even though im sure i've said stuff like it in the past

anyways, back to my original point, okay so Nebraska was leading for the first 2 interceptions and driving on the third, i still don't put the blame all on martinez

1st interception a D-tackle was about 1 or 2 yards away when he threw it, with his hand up in taylor's face, the LG was clearly beat, and on the outside shoulder of the DT...could be a potential holding even but i cant tell from the wide shot. Even then, it was a good outside shoulder throw, solid zip on it, the DB just made a great play and Enunwa should have easily been able to out muscle and position him for the catch

2nd INT he had pressure coming from the Right DE, however the pocket was still holding up. it was an off target throw, but bell was standing there waiting on it instead of moving to it. But taylor clearly didn't see the DB, this one you can put solely on taylor.

3rd INT was late in the 3rd quarter, down 49-31 (if i was QB i would feel some pressure to make plays at that point in the game ESPECIALLY with the way the D was playing). Again the Right DE was putting heat on taylor, and taylor reverted back to his old throwing motion and it cause him to underthrow the ball i would put this one as 75-25 Taylor/OL fault

again...just my opinion on all this. And the Line was playing like shit all night, there is no way you can deny that, so i think it is fair to say that with Rex out, the OL playing like shit, and essentially no D he felt like he HAD to make big plays

 

[Brasky]

What did I say was the key to this game? 0 turnovers we win handily. 1 turnover it's a tight game and could go either way. 2 and we definitely lose. 3 and we get blown out.

 

[popeyecv64]

may be there cutting down on the training table vittlles

and serving them obummer food

carrots celery and hot water soup ??

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I didn't say I'm putting it all on Taylor........I'm saying he deserves quite a bit of blame.

There is no way anyone can argue that if none of those turnovers happen, the game very well could turn out in our favor.

I can't just give Taylor the benefit of the doubt because there was a Defender coming at him when he was getting ready to throw.........

Don't throw the ball if you don't think you're going to complete it! Run for your life for shit sake! All 3 interceptions were bad passes, and they were decisions that Taylor made consciously.

 

[Brasky]

Taylor sucks. Oaky said his dad said taylor is a gamer. Respect to yourn dad en sech oaky, but Taylor is the exact opposite of a gamer.

His instincts blow ass and he's a shit leader.

I want Tommy.

This is actually the first time I've turned my back on Taylor.

He can suck a dick he's part of the problem.

 

[chucksker]

i agree, he made the choice, the throw, and he was responsible for the INTs. but where i disagree is when you said your leaning towards putting as much blame on taylor as you are on the D....the O put up 38 points...that should be enough to win a game

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Now I disagree with that, Brasky. A gamer is simply a guy who keeps competing.........that is all a gamer is.

Taylor is a gamer. He just has issues forcing shit when he feels like he needs to.

 

[popeyecv64]

I didn't say I'm putting it all on Taylor........I'm saying he deserves quite a bit of blame.

There is no way anyone can argue that if none of those turnovers happen, the game very well could turn out in our favor.

I can't just give Taylor the benefit of the doubt because there was a Defender coming at him when he was getting ready to throw.........

Don't throw the ball if you don't think you're going to complete it! Run for your life for shit sake! All 3 interceptions were bad passes, and they were decisions that Taylor made consciously.

Taylor is just a complete pussy and he panics a lot ---he has the brain of a cat

 

[Brasky]

Taylor is dumber than a bucket of hairs and he does in fact skip rocks.