Bulls and Dubs

[Hambombs]

David Lee off the bench. That should be interesting. Some matchups I like lee as the 6th man

 

[tzill]

And tonight is a PERFECT example of why this is NOT an elite defense. 35 points to da bulls in one quarter?? Have they even scored that many in a quarter all season? 22 FTs already for Chicago?

This team plays like this far too often to be elite.

Yet they have the talent to play excellent defense and do not. Frustrating.

 

[Hambombs]

David lee needs to be benched

 

[Hambombs]

And tonight is a PERFECT example of why this is NOT an elite defense. 35 points to da bulls in one quarter?? Have they even scored that many in a quarter all season? 22 FTs already for Chicago?

This team plays like this far too often to be elite.

Yet they have the talent to play excellent defense and do not. Frustrating.

Lol oh c'mon man you're so wrong. Still 3rd in defensive effciency

 

[tzill]

Lol oh c'mon man you're so wrong. Still 3rd in defensive effciency

You keep hanging onto stats and closing your eyes...soon you'll even believe it.

 

[Hambombs]

You keep hanging onto stats and closing your eyes...soon you'll even believe it.

You base everything off 1 fucking game. Everyone is going to have off nights. This isn't 2k

 

[Hambombs]

This is the worst performance I've seen all year

 

[_so_money_]

Offense seemed like the much bigger problem to me. Everyone just standing around with no plan. No adjustments made by coaching staff, for example to try to free up Steph, or get other guys into positions where they can get easy buckets when Steph is triple or quadruple teamed. If they are going to throw 2-4 guys at Curry, the other guys need to be put into position to take advantage of that. Instead I just mostly saw them standing around. Not enough screens being set either.

 

[Hambombs]

Offense seemed like the much bigger problem to me. Everyone just standing around with no plan. No adjustments made by coaching staff, for example to try to free up Steph, or get other guys into positions where they can get easy buckets when Steph is triple or quadruple teamed. If they are going to throw 2-4 guys at Curry, the other guys need to be put into position to take advantage of that. Instead I just mostly saw them standing around. Not enough screens being set either.

Yep. Defense is far from the problem

 

[bigjoerico]

I agree 100% so money. They depend too much on Steph and stop the ball movement waiting for screens. Klay looks almost lost at points on offense if someone is not passing him the ball for a jumper. He needs to be cutting and making the defense move around.
Horrible game!

 

[TobyTyler]

David Lee off the bench. That should be interesting. Some matchups I like lee as the 6th man

A disgraceful performance by the starters; worst performance of the year by far. Not a single player in double figures. The Knicks better look out tomorrow night. They are going to be on the receiving end of a very motivated group of Warriors I bet.

 

[TobyTyler]

This is the worst performance I've seen all year

This says it all: "The Warriors committed 12 first-half turnovers, scored only 38 second-half points and shot 35.7 percent on the night. They got beaten 56-41 on the boards, including allowing Chicago to grab 16 offensive rebounds, and got beaten to even more loose balls".

This is a lazy, undisciplined team.

 

[southernfriedwarrior]

Offense seemed like the much bigger problem to me. Everyone just standing around with no plan. No adjustments made by coaching staff, for example to try to free up Steph, or get other guys into positions where they can get easy buckets when Steph is triple or quadruple teamed. If they are going to throw 2-4 guys at Curry, the other guys need to be put into position to take advantage of that. Instead I just mostly saw them standing around. Not enough screens being set either.

Despite their reputation around the league, the Warriors are just an average offensive team when you crunch the numbers, and drill down into meaningful stats and measurables. They often lack cohesion and ball movement, and when you subtract Curry, they can look downright awful. I expected a half time adjustment, but it just wasn't there that I could see. Bulls were on a back to back as well, yet they had the energy, and not the Warriors. On the other hand, I think Bogut and Lee are not 100%, and I still think this team is assimilating the two new pieces (Blake/Crawford).

 

[Hambombs]

Despite their reputation around the league, the Warriors are just an average offensive team when you crunch the numbers, and drill down into meaningful stats and measurables. They often lack cohesion and ball movement, and when you subtract Curry, they can look downright awful. I expected a half time adjustment, but it just wasn't there that I could see. Bulls were on a back to back as well, yet they had the energy, and not the Warriors. On the other hand, I think Bogut and Lee are not 100%, and I still think this team is assimilating the two new pieces (Blake/Crawford).

Yeah I don't get the hype about our offense. It's good. But not "explosive" but yeah bogut and lee don't look 100%. We will be fine IMO. I rather get the worst game out of the way

 

[msgkings322]

Yeah I don't get the hype about our offense. It's good. But not "explosive" but yeah bogut and lee don't look 100%. We will be fine IMO. I rather get the worst game out of the way

Depends on what you mean by 'fine'

Yesterday's game doesn't change their projection for this year, nor does the 4 game winning streak that preceded it: 5th or 6th seed, decent shot at winning one playoff series, small shot at 2, no shot at 3.

The NBA has few surprises, it's usually pretty obvious by now who the contenders are. The Ws are close, and they took a step forward this year becoming a very good defensive team, now they need to get better offensively, which they can do if they cut down on turnovers.

 

[Hambombs]

Depends on what you mean by 'fine'

Yesterday's game doesn't change their projection for this year, nor does the 4 game winning streak that preceded it: 5th or 6th seed, decent shot at winning one playoff series, small shot at 2, no shot at 3.

The NBA has few surprises, it's usually pretty obvious by now who the contenders are. The Ws are close, and they took a step forward this year becoming a very good defensive team, now they need to get better offensively, which they can do if they cut down on turnovers.

I don't even think the dubs have peaked yet. They can win 2 series and I think they have a decent shot at that. Clips or Portland is a good matchup for them. History shows top defenses have the best shot at being in the finals or the conference finals. But you have to be a top 10 offense along with a top 5 defense to do it. History shows it.

 

[Hambombs]

Depends on what you mean by 'fine'

Yesterday's game doesn't change their projection for this year, nor does the 4 game winning streak that preceded it: 5th or 6th seed, decent shot at winning one playoff series, small shot at 2, no shot at 3.

The NBA has few surprises, it's usually pretty obvious by now who the contenders are. The Ws are close, and they took a step forward this year becoming a very good defensive team, now they need to get better offensively, which they can do if they cut down on turnovers.

Offense and Defensive Efficiency of NBA Champions - SportingCharts.com

Check this out

 

[msgkings322]

I don't even think the dubs have peaked yet. They can win 2 series and I think they have a decent shot at that. Clips or Portland is a good matchup for them. History shows top defenses have the best shot at being in the finals or the conference finals. But you have to be a top 10 offense along with a top 5 defense to do it. History shows it.

They have a lot of work to do to be a top 10 offense, probably not going to get there this year.
They are already a top 5 defense when fully healthy, another question mark.

 

[Hambombs]

They have a lot of work to do to be a top 10 offense, probably not going to get there this year.
They are already a top 5 defense when fully healthy, another question mark.

They aren't far off from being 9th or 10th in that category

 

[msgkings322]

They aren't far off from being 9th or 10th in that category

Just look at the standings, they aren't going to get any higher than 3rd seed, and that is pretty remote because they have to jump over 3 very good teams. Those teams are winning games too, and the runway is getting shorter.

It's possible of course but pretty unlikely. Then again, what's the point of being a fan if you don't root for/hope for/make a case for good things happening?