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Ben Simmons formally demands trade

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Simmons has repeatedly said that he will never play for the Sixers again and only showed up when he realized he wasn't going to get paid. But the reason he's not "mentally ready" to play is because the Sixers are fining him? GTFOH!

Sounds like a smart man if you ask me
 

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On the other hand, if a change of scenery is what he needs, you just got a player who is an elite level ballhandler, passer and defender while eliminating and competition for shots between Tatum and Brown.

I think his free throw shooting can be fixed. As bad as his free throw shooting was in the playoffs, he was 61% for the season which, while not great, isn't a complete disaster and can be improved.

I mean, Lonzo Ball has gone from 45% his rookie year, to 42%, 57%, 78% and this year he's at 83% so far. He's also gone from 31% on 3's to 41% this year.
You absolutely nailed the upside to this.
 

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Sounds like a smart man if you ask me
Making a mockery of the game, but he won’t be the last. Teams have to do a better job of weeding out the idiots
 

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No question the sixers feel deep down the guy is lying. If they had any reason to susoect he had real mental issues there is no way they would be handling things this way. If Simmons is faking, which I think he is, what level of a piece of shit does it take to fake mental illness? All I know is Maxey with every passing game is giving the Sixers reason to end this debacle one way or another. The thing is Simmons is nearing territory where he may never be able to take the court again. He may be fine with that as long as he gets his contract. I continue to think if he had a real mental issue that this conflict is the last thing he would want, he would have just held out.
If that is what he's doing, that is truly despicable.

Everyone handles challenges differently.

Paul George, Derozan played thru it the best they could.

Kevin Love too.

Fultz, Simmons and Royce White could not or would not.

One thing to note about all those situations?

The two Gus who got suspended without pay, Simmons/White, both played for team led by Daryl Morey.

This ain't his first rodeo.
 

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Sounds like a piece of shit for trivializing mental health issues.

IF HE'S LYING.

If he isn't, Well... That makes me a hyper-skeptical asshole.

What I have been saying all along.

Just seems like most on here don’t leave any room for the possibility that his issues are legit.

I am not saying they are for sure. I don’t know.

But neither does anyone else who posts here. And assuming that he is faking is wrong.
 

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Makes sense

I said this was stupid

And again this not something either side will want to bring to an arbitrator

But trying to interfere in his treatment is a big no no
Interfering in his treatment = asking for a doctors note which he couldn’t produce. He sits down with the Sixers doctor and the doc has questions about his claims. He’s saying that with his mental health he can’t lift weights or watch film. That’s absurd. He’s a liar and he’s fucking with a real issue in society that still has a stigma though that’s slowly changing. What a piece of shit. He’s mocking a societal issue because he’s faking.
 

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Maxey is simply....better than Ben Simmons. Let Simmons rot on the bench for three years if that is what it takes!

Simmons has found a loophole to get paid, unfortunately, to the detriment of actual players with mental health problems. But that's apparently not enough for him, he and his agent are still crying because they have zero leverage to force the trade they want.

These tears from his agent are delicious. More please!

 
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Interfering in his treatment = asking for a doctors note which he couldn’t produce. He sits down with the Sixers doctor and the doc has questions about his claims. He’s saying that with his mental health he can’t lift weights or watch film. That’s absurd. He’s a liar and he’s fucking with a real issue in society that still has a stigma though that’s slowly changing. What a piece of shit. He’s mocking a societal issue because he’s faking.

Trying to rail road the process and make a doctor make a determination after just starting the process?

Come on dude

You can’t make a full diagnosis after one treatment like the sixers demanded
 

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Trying to rail road the process and make a doctor make a determination after just starting the process?

Come on dude

You can’t make a full diagnosis after one treatment like the sixers demanded
The sixers and their players know this guy all too well.
 

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Maxey is simply....better than Ben Simmons. Let Simmons rot on the bench for three years if that is what it takes!

Simmons has found a loophole to get paid, unfortunately, to the detriment of actual players with mental health problems. But that's apparently not enough for him, he and his agent are still crying because they have zero leverage to force the trade they want.

These tears from his agent are delicious. More please!

Maxey isn’t better than Simmons. That’s crazy talk. Look at what Maxey’s cover is doing each night. 33 doesn’t mean as much when your cover goes for 32.
 

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Trying to rail road the process and make a doctor make a determination after just starting the process?

Come on dude

You can’t make a full diagnosis after one treatment like the sixers demanded
That session was the choice of Simmons because he couldn’t produce a doctor’s note. Why does Simmons opt to sit down with the Sixers doc instead of providing the doctor’s note? Because Ben Simmons is a lying piece of shit.
 

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That session was the choice of Simmons because he couldn’t produce a doctor’s note. Why does Simmons opt to sit down with the Sixers doc instead of providing the doctor’s note? Because Ben Simmons is a lying piece of shit.

Again, after one session? Seriously

You’re too biased here
 

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Is that why they’re supporting him while management is not?
Oh, so Embiid saying I’m done with this guy is supporting him?
 

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Is that why they’re supporting him while management is not?
Are they? Or are they saying the right things in the media? Simmons still doesn’t return texts or calls from Embiid Thybulle or Harris.
 

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Again, after one session? Seriously

You’re too biased here
Absolutely not. This is evident to all. The easier choice is getting the doctors note. He’s a man of means and could pay a doctor to lie for him. It’s odd that he would choose to meet with any Sixer doctor when he can avoid that with a doctor’s note. I’m biased? Your shit makes no sense. It’s telling that he can’t produce a doctors note saying that he’s being treated and that he’s not well enough to engage in team activities. Why can’t he get that very easy to acquire documentation?
 

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Absolutely not. This is evident to all. The easier choice is getting the doctors note. He’s a man of means and could pay a doctor to lie for him. It’s odd that he would choose to meet with any Sixer doctor when he can avoid that with a doctor’s note. I’m biased? Your shit makes no sense. It’s telling that he can’t produce a doctors note saying that he’s being treated and that he’s not well enough to engage in team activities. Why can’t he get that very easy to acquire documentation?

It’s clear he’s seeing someone.

That isn’t in dispute despite your constant statement that it is.

That’s just wildly false.

They wanted the doctor to have fully diagnosed Ben and made a determination on his health after a single session
 

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It’s clear he’s seeing someone.

That isn’t in dispute despite your constant statement that it is.

That’s just wildly false.

They wanted the doctor to have fully diagnosed Ben and made a determination on his health after a single session
No. You’re misinformed. Simmons has provided zero documentation that he is being treated. If he had that, the session with the team doctor doesn’t happen. You’re supporting a selfish bitch who is making a mockery of real mental health issues. He leans heavily upon decent folks like you who feel uncomfortable questioning things as soon as the term “mental health” comes up. You’re getting played.
 
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