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Ben Simmons formally demands trade

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That isn’t what I am saying.

You do realize that they could have demanded more from him without doing it in public right?

And if he doesn’t live up to his end trade him!

But without emasculating him first.

This.

You gotta know your player. And you really need to do all you can to save his ego even if it isn't what is said behind closed doors

Take the Beckham situation. Even though it's plain as day he wasn't working in Cleveland the entire team did summersaults to not throw him under the bus. And that's with a guy who is being waived. If your goal is to move on from Ben they went about it all wrong.
 

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This.

You gotta know your player. And you really need to do all you can to save his ego even if it isn't what is said behind closed doors

Take the Beckham situation. Even though it's plain as day he wasn't working in Cleveland the entire team did summersaults to not throw him under the bus. And that's with a guy who is being waived. If your goal is to move on from Ben they went about it all wrong.
That’s a weird comparison. The Browns are getting nothing for OBJ so to what end was all of that?
 

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Yeah, I get why they said what they said.

But those statements are why we are where we are.

Be professional, keep it in house and Ben is somebody else’s problem today while Philly has another quality piece or 2 to help them contend.

It is the trade demand, the mental health questions and Simmons’ refusal to participate with the 6ers that has completely eroded his trade value.

His skill set would have had many suitors despite the playoff struggles without all this.

Those statements were were not helpful but Simmons response has been petulant.

They TRIED to trade Simmons but they couldn't get what they considered fair value in large part because of his horrible play in the Hawks series being the last thing people remember.
 

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Those statements were were not helpful but Simmons response has been petulant.

They TRIED to trade Simmons but they couldn't get what they considered fair value in large part because of his horrible play in the Hawks series being the last thing people remember.

they did not try, or at least did not try in good faith.

The offers that Morey has reportedly asked for are beyond laughable.

That's just another reason that pisses off simmons. You said you'd try to move in good faith and you asked for more than what James Harden went for.
 

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they did not try, or at least did not try in good faith.

The offers that Morey has reportedly asked for are beyond laughable.

That's just another reason that pisses off simmons. You said you'd try to move in good faith and you asked for more than what James Harden went for.

You don't know what they were actually offered. Morey leaking that they want a grand slam package is just propaganda.
 

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You don't know what they were actually offered. Morey leaking that they want a grand slam package is just propaganda.

This isn’t from morey

Also, I offered 4 first rounders for Simmons and you guys said no

But then say Simmons is a loser

Pick a lane
 

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According to the Athletic, the Sixers do have the names of exactly which mental health professionals Simmons is seeing.

So there goes that theory.
 

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This most recent Simmons update really does not paint Philly in a good light.
 

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they did not try, or at least did not try in good faith.

The offers that Morey has reportedly asked for are beyond laughable.

That's just another reason that pisses off simmons. You said you'd try to move in good faith and you asked for more than what James Harden went for.
that's because the Sixers would prefer that Simmons be a Sixer...the dislike is one way in this whole thing.

Instead of you have Simmons making a stink
 

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Nothing terribly shocking there. The team apparently was given the names of the mental health professionals that Simmons is talking to.

The Celtics looking at getting Simmons is interesting. Can't see that happening though.

They know who he's seeing.

They are fining him for not sharing more info.

the article even says that doc told him to sit out a shootaround and they still went after him.

It's not a good look.
 

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They know who he's seeing.

They are fining him for not sharing more info.

the article even says that doc told him to sit out a shootaround and they still went after him.

It's not a good look.
And what look is it when Ben Simmons does not wish to share mental health records with the team that is currently paying his $170M contract?????

Spin it however you want, but the Sixers are playing a very good optics game right now.
It's all on Ben.

Want to improve your astonishingly low trade value? Play for us.
Want to stop getting fined? Share your mental health records.

If Ben wants to stiff arm them, that's on him and does not improve his tradeability.
So, the Sixers should keep fining him as he is still their 'investment'.
 

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And what look is it when Ben Simmons does not wish to share mental health records with the team that is currently paying his $170M contract?????

Spin it however you want, but the Sixers are playing a very good optics game right now.
It's all on Ben.

Want to improve your astonishingly low trade value? Play for us.
Want to stop getting fined? Share your mental health records.

If Ben wants to stiff arm them, that's on him and does not improve his tradeability.
So, the Sixers should keep fining him as he is still their 'investment'.
he does come off as locking himself in his house and telling them "I don't wanna" over and over

in the meantime, he puts his house on the market.

he wants to be a diva but he isn't on that level.
 

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And what look is it when Ben Simmons does not wish to share mental health records with the team that is currently paying his $170M contract?????

Spin it however you want, but the Sixers are playing a very good optics game right now.
It's all on Ben.

Want to improve your astonishingly low trade value? Play for us.
Want to stop getting fined? Share your mental health records.

If Ben wants to stiff arm them, that's on him and does not improve his tradeability.
So, the Sixers should keep fining him as he is still their 'investment'.

They have no right to any details.

Just that he is actually going and trying

That’s it
 

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They have no right to any details.

Just that he is actually going and trying

That’s it
but how can they be sure he is trying?

he owes them those details
 

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Nothing terribly shocking there. The team apparently was given the names of the mental health professionals that Simmons is talking to.

The Celtics looking into getting Simmons is interesting. Can't see that happening though.

Oh hell no, that would be awful.
 
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