B-league suicide draft and chat

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Why butler?and butler who Hakeem? You posted a fa list?

Hakeem Butler. Dude was a monster in college.

FA list is because the 2021 FA list looks stacked at WR.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I took Tyrod in the first! You win.

Yea I was pretty stoked he was still sitting there when I started contemplating my backup. Also have no idea how Kirk Cousins was available in Coma.

 

[SteelersPride]

Hakeem Butler. Dude was a monster in college.

FA list is because the 2021 FA list looks stacked at WR.

Yeah he was, gotta question why with those stats and those measurable u go 4th round.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Yeah he was, gotta question why with those stats and those measurable u go 4th round.

Yea it did shock me quite a bit. More raw than I suspected. If he continues to be buried he might be a gem FA one year.

 

[averagejoe]

I know you hate my team... 3 Bears... the season you think you are giving up on the bears...

Your team has potential. I don't trust your QB.
I think QB is critical in coma. Pun intended.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Your team has potential. I don't trust your QB.
I think QB is critical in coma. Pun intended.

i agree about my team... i think i have the most potential of all the teams in the league... But there is also a big chance that i have 0 QBs for much of the season... GOOD JOB DRAFTING 3!!!!

 

[Chef99]

Yea I was pretty stoked he was still sitting there when I started contemplating my backup. Also have no idea how Kirk Cousins was available in Coma.

Because he blows. You'll see.

 

[SteelersPride]

I'm gonna give my coma and suicide picks at some point

 

[molsaniceman]

Yeah he was, gotta question why with those stats and those measurable u go 4th round.

dropsies

Cardinals selected Iowa State WR Hakeem Butler with the No. 103 overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft.
Butler (6’5/227) went pro as a redshirt junior after starting two years for the Cyclones, logging a career 110/2,149/18 (19.5 YPR) stat line with single-season school records in receiving yards (1,318) and yards per catch (22.0) in 2018. A mammoth deep threat with huge hands (10 ¾") and otherworldly arm length (35 ¼"), Butler led the nation in yards gained on 20-plus-yard targets (721) last season, then blazed 4.48 with a bursty 10-foot-8 broad jump in Indy. Although Butler combines elite size with at-times dominant physicality, he dropped too many passes in the Big 12 and runs far better vertical than short-area routes. Plaxico Burress is a fair comparison for Butler’s NFL ceiling, but fourth rounders begin their careers with low floors.

 

[SteelersPride]

dropsies

Cardinals selected Iowa State WR Hakeem Butler with the No. 103 overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft.
Butler (6’5/227) went pro as a redshirt junior after starting two years for the Cyclones, logging a career 110/2,149/18 (19.5 YPR) stat line with single-season school records in receiving yards (1,318) and yards per catch (22.0) in 2018. A mammoth deep threat with huge hands (10 ¾") and otherworldly arm length (35 ¼"), Butler led the nation in yards gained on 20-plus-yard targets (721) last season, then blazed 4.48 with a bursty 10-foot-8 broad jump in Indy. Although Butler combines elite size with at-times dominant physicality, he dropped too many passes in the Big 12 and runs far better vertical than short-area routes. Plaxico Burress is a fair comparison for Butler’s NFL ceiling, but fourth rounders begin their careers with low floors.

I forgot what it was. Another guy with the intangibles...

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

SUICIDE
1.10 - Nick Chubb... Very happy with this pick. He fell 2-3 spots from my list, but somewhat of a reach considering ADP. But in a RB-starved crew, I had to take the BPA there. -4 ADP value.
2.15 - Chris Godwin... I'm really high on this kid than most this year. Lotta mouths to feed in TB, but this kid has a very high ceiling. Contract year means he's gonna want to maximize. -1 ADP value
3.34 - JuJu Smith-Schuster... Big-time rebound candidate and his value was solid at this point. Just a year removed from being a top 15 fantasy player. No reason to believe with Ben back he can't return to relevance. Contract year as well. Hard to pass up. +2 ADP value
4.39 - Chris Carson... Love this dude's talent, just can't stay healthy. I'm hopeful that I'll get at least 8-10 solid starts. All signs point to him being healthy week 1. They may ease him into the season though with Hyde sharing the load so may not be able to start him comfortably out the gate. +12 ADP value
5.58 - David Montgomery... Got burned a little by this guy last year. He came on better late last year. Hope he continues. +9 ADP value.
6.63 - Stefon Diggs... He should make an immediate impact in BUF. I have concerns over Josh Allen's accuracy, but luckily Diggs has a wide catch radius lol. +5 ADP value.
7.82 - Evan Engram... Risky move but wanted to grab a high-upside starter at TE. If he can stay healthy then look out. +11 ADP value
8.87 - Derrius Guice... Waffled hard here. The RB crop was almost non-existent and Guice was the last available starter. Took the risk at RB4 given the upside & closing out my RB group with starters felt good. Risky group though. Luckily its just 2 positions I need to worry about. Hopefully the stars align.
9.106 - Josh Allen... For as streaky as he can be, he still finished at #5 in fantasy QBs. The upside is awesome, just need him to keep rounding out his game to become a more polished QB. He's typically good for 50-60 rushing yds per game with good chance for rushing TDs.
10.111 - Matt Ryan... Offense is stocked, but this isn't the first time I've bought into Ryan based on that promise over the last 2-3 years. He's still a fairly unreliable option no matter who the supporting cast is. Maybe this year he can finally return to 2016 form. FWIW I was banking on Aaron Rodgers here, but femurov kicked me in the nutsack. That was a theme of the draft for me. He sniped me a lot whenever I felt comfortable letting someone slide 5 spots.
11.130 - Bills DST... I poured over a lot of research with this pick. Honestly almost took them in the previous round. Glad they fell back around.
12.135 - Mike Williams... Boom or bust type pick with good upside. Hoping he connects with Taylor early.
13.154 - Sammy Watkins... Amazingly talented WR when he's available. I think he's being overlooked this year.
14.159 - Matt Gay... Could be a great offense. If not, Brady should be more than capable of getting this guy in range with consistency.

High-risk group for Suicide. Not exactly comforting but I love the upside. But honestly who isn't necessarily risky at this point in the offseason? So much can change from week to week, month to month, and year to year. I'll never shy away from high-upside, high-risk players. But then again, that's probably why I'm not a routine top 3 finisher in Suicide lol. I'm hopeful that I can get carried by 4 starters in particular with this group.

COMA
1.170 - Kirk Cousins... No brainer here. Best QB available and easy Coma linchpin. You can't convince me he didn't belong in Suicide. Erratic QB, but well worth the backup spot in Suicide.
2.179 - Tony Pollard... Got pretty involved in the DAL offense last year as a rookie & is just scratching the surface. Had him rated higher than some of the players going in Suicide. One of the best cuffs to have.
3.182 - Duke Johnson... Backup & possibly a good compliment to David Johnson. Worth a shot if David Johnson continues to disappoint.
4.191 - Golden Tate... After serving his suspension last year he became a 6-9pt per game WR on a consistent basis. He's more of a WR3 with the emergence of Slayton, and Engram being back healthy will eat into his share. But I'm hopeful that Jones' trust in him will carry over.
5.194 - Jared Cook... Surprising that he slipped out of Suicide. Ancient in terms of NFL age, but should be a viable producer at the position for hopefully 8-10 weeks.
6.203 - Benny Snell Jr... James Conner is going to be on a reduced snap count this year to try & keep him healthy. And Snell gets 1st crack at RB2. He could be a 2-4pts per game type of fantasy guy, with an excellent chance of goalline snaps. Having a consistent option like that will be nice.
7.206 - James Washington... The forgotten man in PIT. Surprising too since he really came on last year with a terrible group of QBs throwing him the ball. He could surprise some people, but I do think he's at best WR2. Steelers rotate their WRs so often it will be hard to figure out. But he'll be good for 2-3 deep balls per game. He'll be a TD-dependent option.
8.215 - Corey Davis... Pressures off him now that AJ Brown has emerged. And having Humphries back in the slot should help. Roller-coaster type option I'm sure.
9.218 - Nyheim Hines... Change of pace style back to whoever takes the starting role in IND Mack/Taylor. He'll get his.
10.227 - Browns DST... Incredibly talented group. Tough division, but I ultimately think they'll be a turnover machine & sacks aplenty. That is if they don't implode like usual. Browns are a high upside team this year, not just for Fantasy. I like what they've done even if I'm not a fan of Mayfield.
11.230 - Tyrod Taylor... Took a risk at backup QB given the fact my starter could be top 10 next year. Listening to coach Lynn, all signs point to Taylor being the starter in LAC. We'll see how long that lasts, but I've always been a fan of Taylor's. His tenure in CLE was doomed from the start. He should have a great supporting cast here.
12.239 - Tee Higgins... This pick may take some time, but I think eventually he'll carve out a role. Green, Boyd & Ross are the starters. Higgins is the heir apparent. Wouldn't be surprised to see Green get hurt again, thrusting Higgins into the starting role. He's a high-point specialist WR, so he should see RZ snaps out the gate.
13.242 - Chris Boswell... Steelers will probably want to reduce Big Ben's throwing this year. Which means we could be looking at a game-manager type offense at some point. But the ceiling is still high for this offense. Boswell will see a lot of work this year. Boz struggled in his 2nd year in PIT, but came alive last year. Hoping he continues to be a stable K. Almost waited on K, but knew the wait between here & my final pick likely meant I wasn't getting who I wanted. SP confirmed that moments later when he had to re-pick for taking Boswell.
14.251 - Irv Smith Jr... Looking at his usage last year as a rookie, there's no reason to not think he's the TE to own in MIN this year. I'm thinking Smith will fill in for Diggs' departure. Felt I needed a backup to Jared Cook given his age. Smith was an easy sell & possible double-up feature with Cousins as my QB.

I feel great about this Coma group. Weakness, if I had to point a finger right now, is my WRs. Need some luck there, but I don't think it will matter. You typically get carried in Coma by 3 positions: QB & DST being 2 of those. I just have to get lucky at 1-2 more spots out of the 7 remaining starter spots. I'm more than confident I'll be top 3 in Coma with this group without question.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

dropsies

Cardinals selected Iowa State WR Hakeem Butler with the No. 103 overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft.
Butler (6’5/227) went pro as a redshirt junior after starting two years for the Cyclones, logging a career 110/2,149/18 (19.5 YPR) stat line with single-season school records in receiving yards (1,318) and yards per catch (22.0) in 2018. A mammoth deep threat with huge hands (10 ¾") and otherworldly arm length (35 ¼"), Butler led the nation in yards gained on 20-plus-yard targets (721) last season, then blazed 4.48 with a bursty 10-foot-8 broad jump in Indy. Although Butler combines elite size with at-times dominant physicality, he dropped too many passes in the Big 12 and runs far better vertical than short-area routes. Plaxico Burress is a fair comparison for Butler’s NFL ceiling, but fourth rounders begin their careers with low floors.

I forgot what it was. Another guy with the intangibles...

Everything about him reminds me of Martavis Bryant... Minus the weed habit.

 

[SteelersPride]

Everything about him reminds me of Martavis Bryant... Minus the weed habit.

That you Know of,Lol

 

[Shanemansj13]

SUICIDE
1.10 - Nick Chubb... Very happy with this pick. He fell 2-3 spots from my list, but somewhat of a reach considering ADP. But in a RB-starved crew, I had to take the BPA there. -4 ADP value.
2.15 - Chris Godwin... I'm really high on this kid than most this year. Lotta mouths to feed in TB, but this kid has a very high ceiling. Contract year means he's gonna want to maximize. -1 ADP value
3.34 - JuJu Smith-Schuster... Big-time rebound candidate and his value was solid at this point. Just a year removed from being a top 15 fantasy player. No reason to believe with Ben back he can't return to relevance. Contract year as well. Hard to pass up. +2 ADP value
4.39 - Chris Carson... Love this dude's talent, just can't stay healthy. I'm hopeful that I'll get at least 8-10 solid starts. All signs point to him being healthy week 1. They may ease him into the season though with Hyde sharing the load so may not be able to start him comfortably out the gate. +12 ADP value
5.58 - David Montgomery... Got burned a little by this guy last year. He came on better late last year. Hope he continues. +9 ADP value.
6.63 - Stefon Diggs... He should make an immediate impact in BUF. I have concerns over Josh Allen's accuracy, but luckily Diggs has a wide catch radius lol. +5 ADP value.
7.82 - Evan Engram... Risky move but wanted to grab a high-upside starter at TE. If he can stay healthy then look out. +11 ADP value
8.87 - Derrius Guice... Waffled hard here. The RB crop was almost non-existent and Guice was the last available starter. Took the risk at RB4 given the upside & closing out my RB group with starters felt good. Risky group though. Luckily its just 2 positions I need to worry about. Hopefully the stars align.
9.106 - Josh Allen... For as streaky as he can be, he still finished at #5 in fantasy QBs. The upside is awesome, just need him to keep rounding out his game to become a more polished QB. He's typically good for 50-60 rushing yds per game with good chance for rushing TDs.
10.111 - Matt Ryan... Offense is stocked, but this isn't the first time I've bought into Ryan based on that promise over the last 2-3 years. He's still a fairly unreliable option no matter who the supporting cast is. Maybe this year he can finally return to 2016 form. FWIW I was banking on Aaron Rodgers here, but femurov kicked me in the nutsack. That was a theme of the draft for me. He sniped me a lot whenever I felt comfortable letting someone slide 5 spots.
11.130 - Bills DST... I poured over a lot of research with this pick. Honestly almost took them in the previous round. Glad they fell back around.
12.135 - Mike Williams... Boom or bust type pick with good upside. Hoping he connects with Taylor early.
13.154 - Sammy Watkins... Amazingly talented WR when he's available. I think he's being overlooked this year.
14.159 - Matt Gay... Could be a great offense. If not, Brady should be more than capable of getting this guy in range with consistency.

High-risk group for Suicide. Not exactly comforting but I love the upside. But honestly who isn't necessarily risky at this point in the offseason? So much can change from week to week, month to month, and year to year. I'll never shy away from high-upside, high-risk players. But then again, that's probably why I'm not a routine top 3 finisher in Suicide lol. I'm hopeful that I can get carried by 4 starters in particular with this group.

COMA
1.170 - Kirk Cousins... No brainer here. Best QB available and easy Coma linchpin. You can't convince me he didn't belong in Suicide. Erratic QB, but well worth the backup spot in Suicide.
2.179 - Tony Pollard... Got pretty involved in the DAL offense last year as a rookie & is just scratching the surface. Had him rated higher than some of the players going in Suicide. One of the best cuffs to have.
3.182 - Duke Johnson... Backup & possibly a good compliment to David Johnson. Worth a shot if David Johnson continues to disappoint.
4.191 - Golden Tate... After serving his suspension last year he became a 6-9pt per game WR on a consistent basis. He's more of a WR3 with the emergence of Slayton, and Engram being back healthy will eat into his share. But I'm hopeful that Jones' trust in him will carry over.
5.194 - Jared Cook... Surprising that he slipped out of Suicide. Ancient in terms of NFL age, but should be a viable producer at the position for hopefully 8-10 weeks.
6.203 - Benny Snell Jr... James Conner is going to be on a reduced snap count this year to try & keep him healthy. And Snell gets 1st crack at RB2. He could be a 2-4pts per game type of fantasy guy, with an excellent chance of goalline snaps. Having a consistent option like that will be nice.
7.206 - James Washington... The forgotten man in PIT. Surprising too since he really came on last year with a terrible group of QBs throwing him the ball. He could surprise some people, but I do think he's at best WR2. Steelers rotate their WRs so often it will be hard to figure out. But he'll be good for 2-3 deep balls per game. He'll be a TD-dependent option.
8.215 - Corey Davis... Pressures off him now that AJ Brown has emerged. And having Humphries back in the slot should help. Roller-coaster type option I'm sure.
9.218 - Nyheim Hines... Change of pace style back to whoever takes the starting role in IND Mack/Taylor. He'll get his.
10.227 - Browns DST... Incredibly talented group. Tough division, but I ultimately think they'll be a turnover machine & sacks aplenty. That is if they don't implode like usual. Browns are a high upside team this year, not just for Fantasy. I like what they've done even if I'm not a fan of Mayfield.
11.230 - Tyrod Taylor... Took a risk at backup QB given the fact my starter could be top 10 next year. Listening to coach Lynn, all signs point to Taylor being the starter in LAC. We'll see how long that lasts, but I've always been a fan of Taylor's. His tenure in CLE was doomed from the start. He should have a great supporting cast here.
12.239 - Tee Higgins... This pick may take some time, but I think eventually he'll carve out a role. Green, Boyd & Ross are the starters. Higgins is the heir apparent. Wouldn't be surprised to see Green get hurt again, thrusting Higgins into the starting role. He's a high-point specialist WR, so he should see RZ snaps out the gate.
13.242 - Chris Boswell... Steelers will probably want to reduce Big Ben's throwing this year. Which means we could be looking at a game-manager type offense at some point. But the ceiling is still high for this offense. Boswell will see a lot of work this year. Boz struggled in his 2nd year in PIT, but came alive last year. Hoping he continues to be a stable K. Almost waited on K, but knew the wait between here & my final pick likely meant I wasn't getting who I wanted. SP confirmed that moments later when he had to re-pick for taking Boswell.
14.251 - Irv Smith Jr... Looking at his usage last year as a rookie, there's no reason to not think he's the TE to own in MIN this year. I'm thinking Smith will fill in for Diggs' departure. Felt I needed a backup to Jared Cook given his age. Smith was an easy sell & possible double-up feature with Cousins as my QB.

I feel great about this Coma group. Weakness, if I had to point a finger right now, is my WRs. Need some luck there, but I don't think it will matter. You typically get carried in Coma by 3 positions: QB & DST being 2 of those. I just have to get lucky at 1-2 more spots out of the 7 remaining starter spots. I'm more than confident I'll be top 3 in Coma with this group without question.

Nice write-up. Everybody was high on him last year and of course the Big Ben injury put a dent in those numbers but to me he still hasn't proved anything as a #1 so him going back to 2018 Juju...just isn't the same without ABrown lined up on the other side. I still think he will be much better than last years' performance. I think that ADP is fair and he is your #2 on your team. I wouldn't trust him as a #1 on my fantasy team just like in real life but that's just me.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Nice write-up. Everybody was high on him last year and of course the Big Ben injury put a dent in those numbers but to me he still hasn't proved anything as a #1 so him going back to 2018 Juju...just isn't the same without ABrown lined up on the other side. I still think he will be much better than last years' performance. I think that ADP is fair and he is your #2 on your team. I wouldn't trust him as a #1 on my fantasy team just like in real life but that's just me.

he and the entire Steelers offense will go as far as Big Ben will take them. Let’s not pretend Big Ben is a guarantee. He is 38+ years old who missed most of last season and he played bad when he was healthy enough to play.
If he is bad then the whole offense will suffer. But he could very easily be a stud too.

 

[SteelersPride]

he and the entire Steelers offense will go as far as Big Ben will take them. Let’s not pretend Big Ben is a guarantee. He is 38+ years old who missed most of last season and he played bad when he was healthy enough to play.
If he is bad then the whole offense will suffer. But he could very easily be a stud too.

he was also playing through injury......then shut it down. Ben may be hurt alot, but ben also plays through more injuries than other qb sans favre........

He will also stand in there direct crap, run as much as his big body lets him and get drilled

 

[MilkSpiller22]

he was also playing through injury......then shut it down. Ben may be hurt alot, but ben also plays through more injuries than other qb sans favre........

He will also stand in there direct crap, run as much as his big body lets him and get drilled

interesting cherry picked stat I found.
Only 2 QB seasons over 300 yards per game by a player 37 years old or older

only 1 qb season where a qb had 40 or more TDs.

 

[SteelersPride]

interesting cherry picked stat I found.
Only 2 QB seasons over 300 yards per game by a player 37 years old or older

only 1 qb season where a qb had 40 or more TDs.

Hmmm so 3800 yards for Ben? I say he does it.....if he plays all 16. I don't see 40 tds

 

[Shanemansj13]

Absolutely but Juju has not proven himself as a #1 yet still

 

[SteelersPride]

Absolutely but Juju has not proven himself as a #1 yet still

He has not . I concur.