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I want Chase Brown touching the ball 25 times a game between runs and catches. I am not 100% sold on Brady being an offensive coordinator in the NFL. Maybe Paintin' Manning would like to come to Cincinnati and become our OC to begin his coaching career, hahaha.
I want 16+ rushes a game. That's 4 per quarter. Obviously, leads and late game situations will dictate a bit more, or less.

I'm not a big believer, like Marvin was or Taylor is apparently, that short passes are essentially runs. The reason has to do with the OL blocking, and keeping the defense honest. When you swing pass, you still allow a defense to just sit back and bull-rush the QB. When you run the ball, with efficient blocking, against a team that is hell-bent on attacking the QB, you get solid gains due to the over-pursuit of the defense. That is really where the Bengals are missing their opportunities in the run game, IMO.

For example - multiple times against the Steelers (in which I thought Herbert ran fairly well considering) - they had alignments on 1st and second down where they were showing a clear "over" look to one side of the offense. A quick check to a run on the opposite side would have yielded a very favorable matchup of 3 blocks and a RB with only 2 DL and 1 LB/DB as the next level defender. Yet, in none of those situations was a run ever to that side. They either ran INTO the over coverage, or up the middle.

They also got away from the run in the 2nd half WITH the lead...AGAIN...that has been a reoccurring theme under Taylor. I'm all for Burrow throwing the ball all over the yard, but you simply cannot forget that you have a RB, and that running the ball (and being effective with the scheme) only HELPS Burrow be better at throwing the ball. Taylor gets in his own head too often and will go multiple drives with barely 1 run called...and this became especially noticeable when the Steelers started just tee off on the pass-rush...instead of playing into that with some runs (as I said, the over look left a lot of opportunity), Taylor doubles down on the passing game...
 

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I want Chase Brown touching the ball 25 times a game between runs and catches. I am not 100% sold on Brady being an offensive coordinator in the NFL. Maybe Paintin' Manning would like to come to Cincinnati and become our OC to begin his coaching career, hahaha.
I believe RB by committee is the way to go these days. none of our other rbs could stay healthy or play well this year for long. herbert was a nice find though.
 

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I believe RB by committee is the way to go these days. none of our other rbs could stay healthy or play well this year for long. herbert was a nice find though.
I don't know - I mean, I do see what you mean, but I think there is value to having a guy out there for 3 downs...when you bring in your "other" RB, it's usually for pass-pro, or some specialty that really narrows down what the defense has to plan for.

I'd like to see a rotation of sorts...but only in the sense that Brown needs a rest every so often. I think he's more than capable of handling the duties - and I think he showed that this year. The ankle thing is a freak accident and is what happens when you ask someone to do something out of the ordinary.

Herbert was OK, but I did think he ran rather tentative. I'd be OK with having him back, maybe he'll run better as he's comfortable - otherwise, I'm good taking another RB later in the draft.

RB's, anymore, are like tissues. Good for awhile, and then you move on. They days of 'needing' a true bell-cow RB/Franchise RB are long gone unless you were like Tenn and just built everything around the run game...and even then, they were limited when teams like the Bengals scored...
 

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I don't know - I mean, I do see what you mean, but I think there is value to having a guy out there for 3 downs...when you bring in your "other" RB, it's usually for pass-pro, or some specialty that really narrows down what the defense has to plan for.

I'd like to see a rotation of sorts...but only in the sense that Brown needs a rest every so often. I think he's more than capable of handling the duties - and I think he showed that this year. The ankle thing is a freak accident and is what happens when you ask someone to do something out of the ordinary.

Herbert was OK, but I did think he ran rather tentative. I'd be OK with having him back, maybe he'll run better as he's comfortable - otherwise, I'm good taking another RB later in the draft.

RB's, anymore, are like tissues. Good for awhile, and then you move on. They days of 'needing' a true bell-cow RB/Franchise RB are long gone unless you were like Tenn and just built everything around the run game...and even then, they were limited when teams like the Bengals scored...
Barkley and Henry say put a pin in that and hold my beer. Some running backs are worth the gold. But in my opinion, there are only a handful of guys in this league.
 

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Barkley and Henry say put a pin in that and hold my beer. Some running backs are worth the gold. But in my opinion, there are only a handful of guys in this league.
If you can land a guy like that out of College - great, but I'm not paying them franchise RB money when the contract is up. RB's are just too easily replaceable.

Also - I think it's fair to point out that as good as both have been - neither one at their first stop where they were the primary feature of the offense. Maybe one will win this year, but it will be more because of the offense centered around the QB and their ability to pass the ball more-so than their running...though, I do acknowledge their importance in their respective offenses. Barkley more so than Henry since we've seen Bmore have some really good RB's alongside of Jackson...but that's not to say Hurts can't put up numbers...
 
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