Adrian Peterson

[Cincyfan78]

There are better ways imo than corporal punishment. I believe they best way to get to the child is to take something he really likes away for awhile, until his behavior improves. I'm not saying corporal punishment doesn't work, it did on me, but it's too easy for the parent to lose his temper, spanking the child out of anger. That's when you end up with Peterson's situation. Obviously from the welts on that four year old AP lost his cool. Remembering back, taking away a little league game straightened me right out, and was probably one of the most effective lessons I learned growing up.

Again, it goes to each child and parent, and finding the best solution for all. What works for some, doesn't work for others. I think we can all agree on that. I think we all can agree that a spanking is quite different than bruising up a kid for weeks.

Nobody wants that.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Let me first say that I don't give a damn whatever you folks do with your kids.... That said, I think it should be mentioned that there isn't any credible evidence (that isn't completely anecdotal) that physical punishment works. And there is a mountain of evidence that it has unintended consequences both for the child and the adult.

Now, that doesn't mean we should all start yelling at each other..... I think even those that condone corporal punishment would probably agree that what AP did crossed a threshold and should be considered abuse.

Speaking strictly from experience...I was spanked as a child...I spanked my kids, both adults now, very likely they will spank their kids.

There were a handful of offenses (if you will) that resulted in spankings...disrespecting parents or any adults, lying, stealing...what it did for me...never in any trouble with the law or otherwise, I always respected authority, the truth is always best, work for what you get.

The difference from my parents to me was I never spanked while angry...kids always knew exactly why they were getting spanked, and it was always measured with a paddle....both kids knew they were loved even in the midst of a spanking...my son and I had our issues, but he's a good kid, both have done well for themselves thus far, school/jobs, respect authority, not afraid to tell the truth even if it's not good.

My next door neighbors...had 3 kids...they were not the spanking type...time out when they were real young, and grounded as they got older was the discipline of choice.

The son as a teen regularly cursed his mom out in public, in and out of jail to this day I've heard, the oldest daughter regularly cursed out the mom, and the dad, left home @ 18, had an out of wedlock child, did marry the guy, now divorced and she's not yet 28...the middle child has turned out okay, but she joined the military right out of HS so I assume that's where she developed some character, discipline, etc.

Small sampling I know, but again...my personal experience up close....that said...beating kids on the level AP did serves no lasting purpose imo regardless of how old they are...yeah the kid knows he did something wrong, but to inflict those kinds of welts, AP had to be pretty pissed.

The long and short of my point here is spanking does work if handled the right way, but it's not an absolute.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

There are better ways imo than corporal punishment. I believe they best way to get to the child is to take something he really likes away for awhile, until his behavior improves. I'm not saying corporal punishment doesn't work, it did on me, but it's too easy for the parent to lose his temper, spanking the child out of anger. That's when you end up with Peterson's situation. Obviously from the welts on that four year old AP lost his cool. Remembering back, taking away a little league game straightened me right out, and was probably one of the most effective lessons I learned growing up.

This works for some kids, but imo it doesn't development respect...exactly right and that rarely gets the desired message across.

 

[Cyder]

Again, it goes to each child and parent, and finding the best solution for all. What works for some, doesn't work for others. I think we can all agree on that. I think we all can agree that a spanking is quite different than bruising up a kid for weeks.

Nobody wants that.

I agree. What Peterson did is not "spanking" imo. Spankings don't lead to hospital visits and scars

 

[clemtheslowson]

I agree. What Peterson did is not "spanking" imo. Spankings don't lead to hospital visits and scars

Just to be clear, the Dr's visit was scheduled in advance and he was the one who reported the findings to the police.

 

[Vande]

Me and my sister were never raised with any punishment of any kind. In fact, quite the opposite. Our parents couldn't have possibly cared less about us, and the only times when we actually did get any kind of attention from them, it came in the form of emotional abuse.

While both of us have emotional issues as adults, neither one of us have ever had any trouble with the law and we're both highly successful in our individual fields. Our motivation was that we viewed success as our only way of escaping our shitty parents.

Using the logic used by some of you, should I not be making the case for emotional abuse and neglect as beneficial methods of raising a child? It clearly worked for us, did it not?

 

[cincygrad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DULNyOHnjMA

 

[cincygrad]

It is evidence enough for my life and my family, as I have proven it works time and time again, at least for my kids. Each situation is different, and I would not tell anyone else how to raise their kids, but I don't think a little fear hurts the psyche, but rather strengthens it. JMO as I have no hard evidence to support my claim in a trial among my peers.

Here's the thing though..... You know that it turned out well, so that means that you did it right. That's the case here, so you have your own personal data on your side. But chances are things were going to turn out right if you used that form of punishment or not. There were so many other factors that went into your kids turning out right. I'm guessing the biggest factor of all was the fact that you loved your kids and you cared about their lives. Not just when you could - But every day.

I think this is what people are really missing about the AP case -- Why should anyone defend the guy? By all accounts, he shows up when he can to raise kids he didn't want to have and he spends his time with them kicking their ass.

 

[JBUCK66]

just don't screw up your kids cause the rest of us don't want to deal with them

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Here's the thing though..... You know that it turned out well, so that means that you did it right. That's the case here, so you have your own personal data on your side. But chances are things were going to turn out right if you used that form of punishment or not. There were so many other factors that went into your kids turning out right. I'm guessing the biggest factor of all was the fact that you loved your kids and you cared about their lives. Not just when you could - But every day.

I think this is what people are really missing about the AP case -- Why should anyone defend the guy? By all accounts, he shows up when he can to raise kids he didn't want to have and he spends his time with them kicking their ass.

I was not defending AP. I said I don't disagree with a spanking once in a while. Beating the hell out of kids though, that is a whole other story.

I do love my kids, and they know that. I can be a better dad some days, I know this. However, all in all, our family dynamic works well, and my kids are doing very well. They obey authority, they are well mannered in school, both are in the gifted programs. My son actually finished in the top 2% in the nation in cognitive state testing. Perhaps the only reason my form of punishment works with my kids, is because they actually learn from their mistakes, while some kids are just knuckleheads and never learn. My form of punishment may not work for them. Perhaps I just got lucky. I can't tell you what the secret was/is, just that it worked for my family. *shrugs*

 

[DanBengalfan]

my kids think time out is the worst thing in the world.

it's almost comical.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

my kids think time out is the worst thing in the world.

it's almost comical.

HAHA. If you can find the appropriate punishment for "your kids", that is what needs to be done. Whatever modifies the behavior, short of abusing them. That is my opinion anyways.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Here's the thing though..... You know that it turned out well, so that means that you did it right. That's the case here, so you have your own personal data on your side. But chances are things were going to turn out right if you used that form of punishment or not. There were so many other factors that went into your kids turning out right. I'm guessing the biggest factor of all was the fact that you loved your kids and you cared about their lives. Not just when you could - But every day.

I think this is what people are really missing about the AP case -- Why should anyone defend the guy? By all accounts, he shows up when he can to raise kids he didn't want to have and he spends his time with them kicking their ass.

Just using myself as an example...it would not have turned out the same. Not even close. With my parents being divorced, and having totaling different punishment styles, I experienced both sides of the coin. I can tell you, with out hesitation or a doubt, that I walked all over my mom, never respected her, and did what I want because I knew that a simple grounding was coming. Chances were, if I complained enough, or was good enough, or did something nice, that I could worm my way out of that grounding anyway. With my dad, not even close. It only took a few times for me to straighten out.

As for AP, I haven't seen one person on here defend him. We've all said it clearly shows he crossed a line.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Just using myself as an example...it would not have turned out the same. Not even close. With my parents being divorced, and having totaling different punishment styles, I experienced both sides of the coin. I can tell you, with out hesitation or a doubt, that I walked all over my mom, never respected her, and did what I want because I knew that a simple grounding was coming. Chances were, if I complained enough, or was good enough, or did something nice, that I could worm my way out of that grounding anyway. With my dad, not even close. It only took a few times for me to straighten out.

As for AP, I haven't seen one person on here defend him. We've all said it clearly shows he crossed a line.

Are you my twin brother? We sound like the exact same knucklehead growing up! HAHA.

 

[germanjohn]

Is there something just fucked up with running backs?

I wouldn't say "running backs" per se- but there is something a lot of these guys have in common.

All I'm saying is I don't see Rex Burkhead, Tyler Gaffney, Toby Gerhart, Peyton Hillis, Kyle Juszczyk, Chase Reynolds, or Danny Woodhead doing stuff like this.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Are you my twin brother? We sound like the exact same knucklehead growing up! HAHA.

Brotha's from anotha motha.

Isn't JWil from the south? He needs to chime in on this. Where the hell has he been?

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Brotha's from anotha motha.

Isn't JWil from the south? He needs to chime in on this. Where the hell has he been?

I thought Jwill was from up around this area, but moved to the south. Atlanta I think.

 

[DanBengalfan]

apparently female goalies can beat the shit out of family members and no one cares.

Hope Solo and the domestic violence case no one is talking about - The Washington Post

well, she hasn't been proven guilty yet. the nfl doesn't have the luxury of waiting for a verdict anymore, mob rule.

 

[alf8478]

No one (in the US) cares about soccer

 

[cincygrad]

apparently female goalies can beat the shit out of family members and no one cares.

Hope Solo and the domestic violence case no one is talking about - The Washington Post

well, she hasn't been proven guilty yet. the nfl doesn't have the luxury of waiting for a verdict anymore, mob rule.

We only care about soccer for two weeks every 4 years...... And some of us don't even care then.