MLB Daily Thread: 9/21/2017: Sale 1st AL pitcher in 18 years to fan 300, Sox clinch a playoff spot

[soxfan1468927]

Great start by Sale last night. I'm starting to wonder if the 300 Ks don't put him over the top for the CY.

I think the shift has gone over to Kluber significantly. And I agree with it.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Chris Sale reached Pedro-like heights

 

[Rock Strongo]

Chris Sale has been everything the Boston Red Sox could have hoped for this season. Sale's dominance has put his team in position to make the postseason and for him to achieve a notable milestone.

Sale became the second pitcher in Red Sox history to reach 300 strikeouts in a season, joining Pedro Martinez, who had 313 in 1999. Martinez is the last American League pitcher to reach the 300 mark.
Sale is the second pitcher in the past three seasons to record 300 strikeouts, joining Clayton Kershaw, who had 301 for the 2015 Dodgers. Left-handed pitchers have had five of the past six 300-strikeout seasons, with Randy Johnson responsible for three of those (1999, 2000 and 2001).

It’s unusual for a left-handed pitcher from the AL to reach this plateau. Johnson is the last to do it in 1993. In all, six different lef-thanded pitchers from the AL have struck out 300 batters.

Per Elias Sports Bureau research, Sale is the fourth different pitcher in the modern era to record 300 strikeouts in his first season with a new team. Johnson was the last to do so; he did it in 1999 with the Diamondbacks. The others are Steve Carlton with the 1972 Phillies and Nolan Ryan with both the 1972 Angels and 1989 Rangers.

Also via Elias research, Sale got to 300 strikeouts in 209⅓ innings. He’s the third-quickest to 300 strikeouts by innings pitched, surpassed only by Johnson (197⅔ in 2001) and Martinez (203⅔ in 1999).

 

[Rock Strongo]

I think the shift has gone over to Kluber significantly. And I agree with it.

either guy could win it and there would be no outcry

 

[Rock Strongo]

300 By the Numbers: How he did it

259 -- Sale totaled 259 strikeouts against right-handed batters. No one else has totaled 259 strikeouts this season.

152 -- Sale had 152 strikeouts with his fastball, the second-most of any pitcher on a pitch type this season. Chris Archer has 176 strikeouts with his slider.

99 -- Sale had 99 strikeouts with fastballs located in the upper-third of the strike zone or above the top of the zone. Next-most: 77 by Jacob deGrom.

79 -- Sale had 79 strikeouts looking, the most of anyone in the majors.

35 -- Sale had a chase rate of 35 percent on his fastball. Among those pitchers qualified for the ERA title, that ranked second behind one of his teammates, Rick Porcello.

10 -- Aaron Judge has 10 strikeouts in 12 at-bats against Sale. That’s tied for the most strikeouts against him this season. Steven Souza Jr. also has 10.

 

[soxfan1468927]

300 By the Numbers: How he did it

259 -- Sale totaled 259 strikeouts against right-handed batters. No one else has totaled 259 strikeouts this season.

152 -- Sale had 152 strikeouts with his fastball, the second-most of any pitcher on a pitch type this season. Chris Archer has 176 strikeouts with his slider.

99 -- Sale had 99 strikeouts with fastballs located in the upper-third of the strike zone or above the top of the zone. Next-most: 77 by Jacob deGrom.

79 -- Sale had 79 strikeouts looking, the most of anyone in the majors.

35 -- Sale had a chase rate of 35 percent on his fastball. Among those pitchers qualified for the ERA title, that ranked second behind one of his teammates, Rick Porcello.

10 -- Aaron Judge has 10 strikeouts in 12 at-bats against Sale. That’s tied for the most strikeouts against him this season. Steven Souza Jr. also has 10.

He also broke the record for most strikeouts on the road with 191.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Right now, they're saying Kluber won't start again until Sunday. His last start was Sunday, so they're giving him extra rest. They've actually been going with a six-man rotation for quite a while.

If he were to go again on regular rotation, that would pitch him on 9/30, giving him five days of rest before Game 1.

He'll probably have two more starts, which I'd be surprised if Sale has, so the innings difference will likely be cut further. Could practically get to equal, if Sale just pitches once more.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Could practically get to equal, if Sale just pitches once more.

Never mind about that.

Assuming one start for Sale @ 7 IP, and two for Kluber @ 14 IP, Sale would still have a ten inning lead.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Sale is winning it

Voters love Bawstun

 

[Rock Strongo]

Sale is winning it

Voters love Bawstun

of course they do.

trivia

whens the last time a team had back to back Cy winners (2 different guys)?

i'm looking at someone here.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

of course they do.

trivia

whens the last time a team had back to back Cy winners (2 different guys)?

i'm looking at someone here.

No idea

I just know Dusty Pedroia won an MVP

 

[Rock Strongo]

No idea

I just know Dusty Pedroia won an MVP

indians in 07/08 (CC and Lee)

before that it was toronto with hengten and clemens in 96/97

 

[soxfan1468927]

of course they do.

trivia

whens the last time a team had back to back Cy winners (2 different guys)?

i'm looking at someone here.

Sabathia and Lee correct?

 

[soxfan1468927]

No idea

I just know Dusty Pedroia won an MVP

Which he deserved.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Right now, they're saying Kluber won't start again until Sunday. His last start was Sunday, so they're giving him extra rest. They've actually been going with a six-man rotation for quite a while.

If he were to go again on regular rotation, that would pitch him on 9/30, giving him five days of rest before Game 1.

He'll probably have two more starts, which I'd be surprised if Sale has, so the innings difference will likely be cut further. Could practically get to equal, if Sale just pitches once more.

My guess is they will throw Sale Wednesday and that's it.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Which he deserved.

Has to be the worst offensive stats for an MVP in the modern era

 

[Rock Strongo]

Has to be the worst offensive stats for an MVP in the modern era

we did this 10 years ago

no he didnt

 

[soxfan1468927]

Has to be the worst offensive stats for an MVP in the modern era

What offensive numbers? It's not the worst BA (the last 3 years in the AL have been lower), not the worst OBP (Donaldson in 2015 was lower), not the worst slugging (Ichiro was lower in 2001). Just looking at recent ones

 

[cerealboi]

Has to be the worst offensive stats for an MVP in the modern era

Verlander won the MVP, so you're wrong. Again.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

What offensive numbers? It's not the worst BA (the last 3 years in the AL have been lower), not the worst OBP (Donaldson in 2015 was lower), not the worst slugging (Ichiro was lower in 2001). Just looking at recent ones

20 HR and 83 RBI is "Cute"