MLB Daily Thread: 8/23/17 Red Sox Win, Sadly So do Yankees, Irving a Celtic, Judge K Streak DEAD

[Vyle203]

So, if the Tribe owns Sale, do the Sox own Kluber?

 

[The Oldtimer]

What a hilarious way to lose for the Dodgers.

Yep tough loss for Hill, but it's only the 5th loss for the Dodgers since Kershaw went on the DL. Did the D-Backs win today?

 

[navamind]

Sucks to see the Sox and Twinkies keep on winning. Would have been nice to pickup a game these last 2 nights

cry about it

 

[bksballer89]

cry about it

Doing that now.

 

[richig07]

Welp...

Moncada's RBI double cost me 50 bucks in a FanDuel H2H. He was down 0-2 in the count and hitting right handed. Where he was 4 for 35 before that AB.

Gonna punch my wall for a while.

 

[Gopherfan84]

I'm sure Harvey Haddix is commiserating with Rich Hill tonight.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Good chance the 7 games H2H between the Royals and Twins determines the last playoff spot in the AL it looks like.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Im not sure the basketball trade moves the needle on either team.

IT played his best ball with the Celtics almost guaranteed and previously was known for controlling the ball too much which is why he has been a bit of a journeyman.

Kyrie Irving is injury prone, doesn't play defense and apparently beefs with one of the most valuable players in any sport.

That draft pick, though...

They still can't beat anyone coming out of the West, for sure. But I believe it bolsters their chances of beating Cleveland and making a run to a guaranteed loss in the Finals.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

One of the few times you can get congratulated after giving up a walk off.

 

[soxfan1468927]

My theories:

1. One of the smallest -- if not the -- metropolitan areas to have pro football, baseball and basketball. The Indians compete with the Browns and Cavs for Clevelands' expendable income. It's a browns town and Lee Brown is a big draw for the Cavs.
2. Geographically landlocked. Two hours to the east is the Pirates. Two hours to the west you start running into Tigers and to a lesser extent Cubs territory. Two hours south you butt up against Reds territory. Immediately north is a shitton of water.

So was the mid-90s to early 2000s attendance records just a mirage because the Browns left and the Cavaliers sucked?

I believe Cleveland is the smallest metropolitan area to have those 3. Pittsburgh isn't much bigger and they have 3 (although hockey instead of basketball). Just a little surprising to see under 20k attendance for a game against the Red Sox. I always thought Cleveland's fandom went 1. Ohio State football, 2. Browns, 3. Indians, 4. Cavaliers.

 

[soxfan1468927]

So one night, Doug Fister gives up a HR to the first batter and then proceeds to get 27 outs without giving up a hit. Last night, Rich Hill gets 27 outs without giving up a hit and then gives up a HR to the last batter.

Baseball is funny

 

[molsaniceman]

just bought a new bug what do u think

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

So was the mid-90s to early 2000s attendance records just a mirage because the Browns left and the Cavaliers sucked?

I wouldn't call it a mirage -- it did happen -- but those circumstances certainly were part of it. The brand new Gateway district, including Jacobs Field, Gund Arena and restaurants and bars made downtown Cleveland a place to be when it hadn't been for years.

There was also the sustained success of the Indians.

I believe Cleveland is the smallest metropolitan area to have those 3. Pittsburgh isn't much bigger and they have 3 (although hockey instead of basketball).

Pittsburgh's attendance sucks too.

Just a little surprising to see under 20k attendance for a game against the Red Sox.

Folks probably didn't feel like dealing with Red Sox fans trying to suck their dicks in the men's restroom.

I always thought Cleveland's fandom went 1. Ohio State football, 2. Browns, 3. Indians, 4. Cavaliers.

I'm not sure where I'd place the Buckeyes on that list. Not first, though. It's a Browns town.

 

[soxfan1468927]

I wouldn't call it a mirage -- it did happen -- but those circumstances certainly were part of it. The brand new Gateway district, including Jacobs Field, Gund Arena and restaurants and bars made downtown Cleveland a place to be when it hadn't been for years.

There was also the sustained success of the Indians.



Pittsburgh's attendance sucks too.



Folks probably didn't feel like dealing with Red Sox fans trying to suck their dicks in the men's restroom.



I'm not sure where I'd place the Buckeyes on that list. Not first, though. It's a Browns town.

Fair enough on the first 2 points

Would only happen if one of you looked like Tom Brady, which is impossible.

That's good to know considering the success of Ohio State and the lack of success for the Browns.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

That's good to know considering the success of Ohio State and the lack of success for the Browns.

No doubt. People love the fucking browns regardless of their abject ineptitude.

I remember being so frustrated in 2007 walking out of The Jake after the postseason-clinching game. The Indians were arguably the best team in baseball that year (probably the Red Sox), they'd just clinched a playoff berth and as I walking out of the game, the entire crowd around me was talking talking about the Browns' upcoming season.

It's a football state (which explains tOSU's history of success and why the best things in UofM's history came out of Ohio).

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

It's a football state (which explains tOSU's history of success and why the best things in UofM's history came out of Ohio).

That was for you, @navamind.

Spoiler

 

[soxfan1468927]

No doubt. People love the fucking browns regardless of their abject ineptitude.

I remember being so frustrated in 2007 walking out of The Jake after the postseason-clinching game. The Indians were arguably the best team in baseball that year (probably the Red Sox), they'd just clinched a playoff berth and as I walking out of the game, the entire crowd around me was talking talking about the Browns' upcoming season.

It's a football state (which explains tOSU's history of success and why the best things in UofM's history came out of Ohio).

That 2007 Browns offense was legit. I remember drafting Derek Anderson in fantasy the next year. Unlucky they didn't make the playoffs.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

That 2007 Browns offense was legit. I remember drafting Derek Anderson in fantasy the next year. Unlucky they didn't make the playoffs.

I wouldn't know. I don't really watch NFL until the playoffs.

 

[Rock Strongo]

booooooo. Bryce Brentz's time has come (again)!

98.5 the entire ride hom last night was waiting for either cespedes or dare i say stanton.

we got rajai freakin davis.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

So, if the Tribe owns Sale, do the Sox own Kluber?

Maybe.

He's got a 4.45 ERA vs BOS compared to his overall career mark of 3.23. That's a pretty big difference, but not quite as dramatic as Sale's career mark of 2.95 compared to 4.44 vs CLE.

Sale's innings sample size vs CLE is more than twice that of Kluber's vs BOS.

And then there's this:

Sale last three starts vs Indians:
5.1 IP/GS ~ 10.6 K/9 ~ 2.6 K/BB ~ 1.83 WHIP ~ 9.39 ERA

Kluber last three starts vs Red Sox:
7.2 IP/GS ~ 10.4 K/9 ~ 4.2 K/BB ~ 0.83 WHIP ~ 1.66 ERA