MLB Daily Thread: 8/1/17 Holy Crap Fister Pitched a Gem, Happy August!!

[soxfan1468927]

You are trying really hard to avoid his overall home/road splits for this year.

4.04 on the road and 3.08 at home. That's not really a big split. Like I said, he's 26th in the AL in road ERA and 19th in home ERA.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Ummm, why would the Yankees send Garrett Jones down?

Am i the only one thats noticing Chase Headley should never bat righty again?

Guy is on fire as a lefty, so lets ruin him again by batting him righty?

 

[$500 Million]

Ummm, why would the Yankees send Garrett Jones down?

Am i the only one thats noticing Chase Headley should never bat righty again?

Guy is on fire as a lefty, so lets ruin him again by batting him righty?

When did they get Garret Jones?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

When did they get Garret Jones?

That big lumberjack from Milwaukee

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

True. I would love to see the stats on Yankees stadium though. I feel like it was much more hitters friendly the first few years when it was open.

This is my problem with park factors.

Unless they made material changes to the field dimensions, or the structure of the stadium (possibly changing wind patterns), how in the fuck would a park's hitter friendliness change? Seems to me that if park factors are changing from year to year, they're being influenced too much by the players that play in them.

 

[$500 Million]

That big lumberjack from Milwaukee

Oh, Garrett Cooper.

He was no savior

 

[soxfan1468927]

This is my problem with park factors.

Unless they made material changes to the field dimensions, or the structure of the stadium (possibly changing wind patterns), how in the fuck would a park's hitter friendliness change? Seems to me that if park factors are changing from year to year, they're being influenced too much by the players that play in them.

Well there's no way that it will be the same every year. Looking at multiple years gives a larger sample size.

 

[PolarVortex]

..and you're trying really hard to make this a bad trade.

But go ahead, it's fun watching you try.

I never said I thought it was a bad trade. What I am saying is that the pitcher the Fraudkee fans are getting is not the same pitcher they think they are getting.

 

[$500 Million]

I never said I thought it was a bad trade. What I am saying is that the pitcher the Fraudkee fans are getting is not the same pitcher they think they are getting.

Out of curiosity, what do you think we think we are getting?

A new ace? He's not better than Severino.

A #2 or #3 starter?

A Cy Young type pitcher?

Greg Maddux?

 

[PolarVortex]

I agree, I do hear Rutherford will be a very solid major leaguer, but I like the idea of having Robertson and Kahlne beyond this season.....Frazier is exactly who I thought he would be, which is "meh"

Word. You didn't hear me criticize that trade. That was a good move. The Frauders got stuck with Frazier's salary but that was the price that had to be paid.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Well there's no way that it will be the same every year. Looking at multiple years gives a larger sample size.

Yeah, that's why I think they're flawed.

Explain why it would change other than the players who are playing in that park?

 

[navamind]

This is my problem with park factors.

Unless they made material changes to the field dimensions, or the structure of the stadium (possibly changing wind patterns), how in the fuck would a park's hitter friendliness change? Seems to me that if park factors are changing from year to year, they're being influenced too much by the players that play in them.

They aren't infallible. Variations in the weather also probably play a role. Not every summer is going to have the same weather.

The Beginner’s Guide To Understanding Park Factors | FanGraphs Sabermetrics Library

 

[redseat]

no limit on moves.

Sorry my bad... Was thinking you said "PICKS..."

That's what happens when you are on the phones, processing AND having the Fire Alarm go off twice!

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I was shocked at what I saw last night. I kept waiting for the walls to come caving in and he leaves after giving up 3 and 2 men on.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Yeah, that's why they're flawed.

Explain why it would change other than the players who are playing in that park?

I'm sorry, but how could it not change? The odds of getting the exact numbers every time in that formula are impossible.

 

[PolarVortex]

Out of curiosity, what do you think we think we are getting?

A new ace? He's not better than Severino.

A #2 or #3 starter?

A Cy Young type pitcher?

Greg Maddux?

On his good days, you will get a quality starts and you might even get an ultra quality start or two. But, I think less than half his starts will be quality starts. 12 starts, 65-70 IP, 4.25-4.50 ERA, 1.35-1.45 WHIP. If Judge ever finds his stroke again, the Fraudkees should be able to 6-6, maybe 7-5 in Gray's starts. If the Judge continues to have a limp dick, the Frauds will go 4-8, maybe 5-7 in Gray's starts.

 

[PolarVortex]

Out of curiosity, what do you think we think we are getting?

A new ace? He's not better than Severino.

A #2 or #3 starter?

A Cy Young type pitcher?

Greg Maddux?

On his good days, you will get a quality starts and you might even get an ultra quality start or two. But, I think less than half his starts will be quality starts. 12 starts, 65-70 IP, 4.25-4.50 ERA, 1.35-1.45 WHIP. If Judge ever finds his stroke again, the Fraudkees should be able to 6-6, maybe 7-5 in Gray's starts. If the Judge continues to have a limp dick, the Frauds will go 4-8, maybe 5-7 in Gray's starts.

 

[$500 Million]

On his good days, you will get a quality starts and you might even get an ultra quality start or two. But, I think less than half his starts will be quality starts. 12 starts, 65-70 IP, 4.25-4.50 ERA, 1.35-1.45 WHIP. If Judge ever finds his stroke again, the Fraudkees should be able to 6-6, maybe 7-5 in Gray's starts. If the Judge continues to have a limp dick, the Frauds will go 4-8, maybe 5-7 in Gray's starts.

I can see your opinion isn't biased in any way, thanks for your input.

 

[navamind]

There's been a lot of thunderstorms in the NYC area this summer, so I'd imagine it's been a lot muggier than it was over the last few years. That will help baseballs fly out of the stadium.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I'm sorry, but how could it not change? The odds of getting the exact numbers every time in that formula are impossible.

What I'm saying is how would a park just become more hitter friendly than another if the dimensions and stadiums did not not change?

Changing weather patterns notwithstanding, it wouldn't. The factors are being skewed by the players' numbers that play in those parks.

To illustrate, if in 2004, you took the Boston Red Sox (949 runs - .282/.360/.472/.832) and Arizona Diamondbacks (615 runs - .253/.310/.393/.703) and swapped stadiums, Fenway's "hitter friendliness" for that year would change. It's being skewed by the teams.

I'm not saying they're worthless, but I take them with a grain of salt.