Game Thread: #7 Michigan State @ #12 Michigan

[Across The Field]

Great, precise argument. Shows the depth and precision of your mind.
#leghumper

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[TheRobotDevil]

Great, precise argument. Shows the depth and precision of your mind.
#leghumper

Once in a great while a poster comes along that says something so asinine there is no explanation. In this scenario Eltexan should have just fell on the post and stuck to threads about mexican soccer. If you really need an explanation as to why a player would go for the end zone after recovering a punt. On a win or lose play that began with 10 seconds on the clock. Maybe falling on the ground with .08 seconds left and hoping you can get a time out is how they do it in Jexas. Then again maybe thats why texas is irrelevant . You may have just won dunce of the year on this one

 

[Wazmankg]

I think he was at the 39, fall down and let MSU toss up a Hail Mary, but you're right hindsight is 20/20...

Fall down for a shot at a Hail Mary instead of following a wall of blockers to the end zone ? That would have been completely nuts. Tex thinks he should have run just far enough to give his shitty FG kicker an "easy" kick all the while making sure the clock doesn't run out, instead of following a wall of blockers to the end zone... which is only about 95% nuts.

 

[ElTexan]

You got a small lead and are in the middle of the field with two minutes left. You run for s first down. You fall down when s defender comes close instead of risking a fumble or being forced out of bounds. Right?

You have a small lead with two minutes left. You catch an interception at your own five. You run it a little bit to give yourself a bit of space from the end zone, but you fall instead of risking a fumble if a tackler comes close. Right?

So, in this scenario, the clock starts at ten seconds. You know that. You're down by two. So. You scoop and run the blocked punt, but if there's s chance you get tackled before the goal line, you go down with ~3 seconds left so you can kick an fg to WIN instead of risking a LOSS.

What part don't you get?

 

[williewilliejuan]

You got a small lead and are in the middle of the field with two minutes left. You run for s first down. You fall down when s defender comes close instead of risking a fumble or being forced out of bounds. Right?

You have a small lead with two minutes left. You catch an interception at your own five. You run it a little bit to give yourself a bit of space from the end zone, but you fall instead of risking a fumble if a tackler comes close. Right?

So, in this scenario, the clock starts at ten seconds. You know that. You're down by two. So. You scoop and run the blocked punt, but if there's s chance you get tackled before the goal line, you go down with ~3 seconds left so you can kick an fg to WIN instead of risking a LOSS.

What part don't you get?

The part where this would make sense to anyone who had ever seen a college kicker.

 

[cwerph]

You got a small lead and are in the middle of the field with two minutes left. You run for s first down. You fall down when s defender comes close instead of risking a fumble or being forced out of bounds. Right?

You have a small lead with two minutes left. You catch an interception at your own five. You run it a little bit to give yourself a bit of space from the end zone, but you fall instead of risking a fumble if a tackler comes close. Right?

So, in this scenario, the clock starts at ten seconds. You know that. You're down by two. So. You scoop and run the blocked punt, but if there's s chance you get tackled before the goal line, you go down with ~3 seconds left so you can kick an fg to WIN instead of risking a LOSS.

What part don't you get?

The part where the guy, who isn't normally a ball carrier, is supposed to, according to you, simultaneously see in front and behind of him to see if he is going to be tackled and also see the clock to know when there is actually 3 seconds left on the clock.

That would be some special player.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

Fall down for a shot at a Hail Mary instead of following a wall of blockers to the end zone ? That would have been completely nuts. Tex thinks he should have run just far enough to give his shitty FG kicker an "easy" kick all the while making sure the clock doesn't run out, instead of following a wall of blockers to the end zone... which is only about 95% nuts.

No sorry, I was referring to the Michigan punter...

 

[Wazmankg]

What part don't you get?

How you figured out how to log onto the internet.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

How you figured out how to log onto the internet.

Throw thought processes out the window, that MSU player was running on adrenaline and endorphins....as ANYONE would be...

 

[ElTexan]

I'm not the one calling for the runner to have eyes everywhere and super-timers. Y'all are. I'm the one saying to take the conservative route and step out to preserve the clock and kick a ~24 yard fg ftw instead of risking a 0.8 roll into the end zone TD through a pile.

It's my strategy that is the conservative one. It is yours that calls for the guy to have super awareness. Right?

Mine says to take the conservative approach, not risk a tackle, and step out with plenty of time.

It would help if you guys had an inkling as to how to argue a point

 

[SpartyNash13]

Imagine if instead of following 7 blockers taking on 2 defenders he runs out of bounds to set up the field goal and the kick is missed/blocked

You got a small lead and are in the middle of the field with two minutes left. You run for s first down. You fall down when s defender comes close instead of risking a fumble or being forced out of bounds. Right?

You have a small lead with two minutes left. You catch an interception at your own five. You run it a little bit to give yourself a bit of space from the end zone, but you fall instead of risking a fumble if a tackler comes close. Right?

So, in this scenario, the clock starts at ten seconds. You know that. You're down by two. So. You scoop and run the blocked punt, but if there's s chance you get tackled before the goal line, you go down with ~3 seconds left so you can kick an fg to WIN instead of risking a LOSS.

What part don't you get?

The difference is that in those scenarios you already have the lead...there is no way anyone would be running out of bounds to stop the clock when you have a convoy of blockers the whole way.

 

[cwerph]

I'm not the one calling for the runner to have eyes everywhere and super-timers. Y'all are. I'm the one saying to take the conservative route and step out to preserve the clock and kick a ~24 yard fg ftw instead of risking a 0.8 roll into the end zone TD through a pile.

It's my strategy that is the conservative one. It is yours that calls for the guy to have super awareness. Right?

Mine says to take the conservative approach, not risk a tackle, and step out with plenty of time.

It would help if you guys had an inkling as to how to argue a point

You are claiming he knew the clock had not already run out.

That is what is known as assuming facts not in evidence.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Fall down for a shot at a Hail Mary instead of following a wall of blockers to the end zone ? That would have been completely nuts. Tex thinks he should have run just far enough to give his shitty FG kicker an "easy" kick all the while making sure the clock doesn't run out, instead of following a wall of blockers to the end zone... which is only about 95% nuts.

next eltexan will cover why you should kick the ball into the end zone when attempting an onside kick

 

[ElTexan]

Throw thought processes out the window, that MSU player was running on adrenaline and endorphins....as ANYONE would be...

That's correct. And has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Proper strategy is independent of what you bring up, which is undoubtedly true

See the ttu-nu game which was lost because a guy didn't drop to his knees because he had adrenaline. Baylor just lost the Cotton for the exact reason

 

[Across The Field]

You got a small lead and are in the middle of the field with two minutes left. You run for s first down. You fall down when s defender comes close instead of risking a fumble or being forced out of bounds. Right?

You have a small lead with two minutes left. You catch an interception at your own five. You run it a little bit to give yourself a bit of space from the end zone, but you fall instead of risking a fumble if a tackler comes close. Right?

So, in this scenario, the clock starts at ten seconds. You know that. You're down by two. So. You scoop and run the blocked punt, but if there's s chance you get tackled before the goal line, you go down with ~3 seconds left so you can kick an fg to WIN instead of risking a LOSS.

What part don't you get?

The first two scenarios are entirely irrelevant to this play because MSU didn't have a lead.

Secondly, you scoop and run and don't think about how much time is remaining. When you have blockers in front of you and a head full of steam, and aren't absolutely 100% certain there is enough time to fall (how could he have been?), you run that fucker into the end zone. Period.

 

[ElTexan]

So, you're claiming now that a player can't tell the difference between 7 seconds snd ten? Ok. That's an argument.

But know that before everyone here was claiming that the runner had 'plenty of time' when he rolled in with .8 seconds left.

 

[SpartyNash13]

Good call Desmond, stick to annoying everyone on GameDay

 

[TheRobotDevil]

That's correct. And has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Proper strategy is independent of what you bring up, which is undoubtedly true

See the ttu-nu game which was lost because a guy didn't drop to his knees because he had adrenaline. Baylor just lost the Cotton for the exact reason

 

[Across The Field]

So, you're claiming now that a player can't tell the difference between 7 seconds snd ten? Ok. That's an argument.

But know that before everyone here was claiming that the runner had 'plenty of time' when he rolled in with .8 seconds left.

That was back when you were trying to say that the runner should have gone down right when he got the ball. At that point, he did have "plenty of time".

 

[ElTexan]

I claim that a special team player who knows the clock starts at ten CAN make a conservative estimate of whether he is 3 seconds away from the clock ticking to zero.